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I want a game where the nosferatu from ac6 is not out of place. It was more Macross than the best Macross game. I want railguns, lasers, and less of that pursuit dogfighting crap. I also enjoyed all the crazy dlc planes with unique loadouts. Yes even the idolmaster planes 
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drat, I missed this thread before I posted mine.  Regardless, I'm so pumped for this announcement!
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Hey Punkboy, would you mind if I use your OP content? I will credit you of course. It'd be nice to have these merged together. Skwerl fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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I hope it's a sequel to Assault Horizon so we can continue to stay fly. Just get rid of all the scripted dogfights, those sucked.
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Quoting from the other thread:Astro Creep posted:Just a complete shot in the dark regarding the teaser, but "the heavens split to create new skies" sounds like it could take place in space. I mean the flying mechanics are already nearly perfect for a space combat game, just remove engine stalls and you're golden. It's also not outside the realm of possibility since AC3: Electrosphere(the AC taking place the latest, chronologically) was retconned into the United Galaxy Space Force pseudoseries. I don't necessarily hope that's what it is, but it wouldn't surprise me.
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The final boss was really loving bad about this, because if you failed at the endpoint where you actually had a chance to kill him, you had to survive the part where you could do sweet fuckall alllllll over again, and it's seriously like a two or three minute sequence.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:The final boss was really loving bad about this, because if you failed at the endpoint where you actually had a chance to kill him, you had to survive the part where you could do sweet fuckall alllllll over again, and it's seriously like a two or three minute sequence. fun fact, if you don't activate CRA within the first 10 seconds of the boss fight, you get an automatic mission fail 
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Astro Creep posted:Quoting from the other thread: I'm reminded of Deadly Skies III, which had the final few missions take place in space. You flew regular fighter jets, only they had rockets strapped to them or something. It's not a very good game, but the set pieces were very Ace Combat, with giant rolling wheel fortresses and poo poo. Edit: constant bewildering radio chatter from three different factions, each with their own conversations and a controller talking to you (your callsign changed more or less every mission.) Reivax fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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This might be one of my favorite series of all time, if it goes back to its Strangereal roots (including gameplay more like 4/5) for the next one they will have all of my money. I remember Ace Combat II back on the original Playstation, sitting there wondering as a little kid where the hell the F-15s were after I beat the game, not even aware of what the YF-23 was and that I should've been ecstatic it was in the game. I really, really loved AC4 for some reason, it's tied with 5 for me as 2 of my favorite games of all time. I've probably gone back and S'ed out all the missions in 4 on every difficulty about 3 times now. I just love that loving game all the way through. I never played Zero, I really need to see if I can find a copy of that. From what I've played of AC:AH on the PC, I really don't like it. It just not AC when you do that crazy tail chasing poo poo, I loved in 4/5 when I could pull off those ridiculous combos of gun and missile kills without needing any kind of scripted event. If anything, I felt like that broke the flow of the game so much, having to chase some dude around for a couple minutes on a stupid path. Quick tech question, has anyone ever heard of a bug with AC5 where your PS2 will freeze while loading the Mobius 1 mini-game (arcade mode) stuff? It shows the loading prompt but never loads it, left my PS2 on for an hour just to see. Later on, the game bugged out after a save and I couldn't actually finish the mission I was on either, I can't tell if it's the PS2 or the game itself. Mazz fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Echoing sentiments of wanting an Ace Combat closer to 4,5,0. Fires of Liberation and Assault Horizon were just not up to scratch.
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Ka0 posted:5 is still my favorite ace combat. Well "had to" was $0, but if you bought literally every piece of AC6 DLC I believe it totaled up to $183. Note that you got zero new missions for this. Hell I don't even know if you got new planes, just reskins and attribute changes. At least AH included new planes, even if you can't fly them in campaign (  ) like the YF-23. And a helicopter that carries UGBs. That poo poo is funny.also yes if they bring back DFM and ASM I think that's fine, those aren't actually negatives. Making long DFM chases against invincible bosses however is completely unacceptable.
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Fauxtool posted:I want a game where the nosferatu from ac6 is not out of place. It was more Macross than the best Macross game. I want railguns, lasers, and less of that pursuit dogfighting crap. Shinjobi posted:Given that the website mentions the sky falling, I've heard and tend to agree with rumblings that it's referencing the Ulysses asteroid that strikes some time before 4. So we might see pre-Stonehenge craziness. YES! THIS! I could never bring myself to try AH because...gently caress...Tom Clancy-esque "realism"? Since when was that what made Ace Combat attractive? I thought the whole loving point was to apply what was essentially a Gundam plot (along with the same sort of gradual evolution of enemy equipment you'd expect to see in the show) to a Top Gun fighter jock story. I also think that either a remake of 04 or something a few years earlier is likely. I'm totally down with that (though it'd be neat to see something set earlier or later, like, there's that whole war in the 70s that's likely crazy, and hell, the Strangereal WWII analogue is probably pretty cool, like, with partially sunken battleship fortresses and poo poo) so long as they don't try to go with CG cutscenes, the slideshows in 04 and X are loving gorgeous, and while the stuff in 5, Zero, and 6 don't really look bad, they don't do much that couldn't have been accomplished with a nice looking cartoon slideshow. I do hope that they finally decide to ditch the silent protagonist thing though, it's really awkward in most of the games. Psion posted:At least AH included new planes, even if you can't fly them in campaign ( WHAT?! How does-? That's dumb. EDIT: For clarity! Ernie Muppari fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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There was a space mission in Ace Combat 3, which was ridiculous and confusing as hell. Then again, it was Ace Combat 3.
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Astro Creep posted:Quoting from the other thread: We really need something like this. Otherwise we're nearly 3 generations overdue for another Colony Wars.
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Giggily posted:There was a space mission in Ace Combat 3, which was ridiculous and confusing as hell. Then again, it was Ace Combat 3. I really want a remake of 3. Like, more than anything else. Sadly like the other game with a 3 in it I want, it'll never happen.
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Is there an Ace Combat where you can fly a Mig-17? This is important to me.
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I hope this is good, the last one I really enjoyed was Zero, though 6 certainly was pretty and didn't have the dumb poo poo  REAL WORLD ASSAULT HORIZON did. Assault Horizon is terrible.
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Panzeh posted:Is there an Ace Combat where you can fly a Mig-17? This is important to me. I don't think so, that's part of why I'm holding out hope that we'll eventually get an AC game set in one of their crazy mid-1900s wars. 80s-90s jets are neat, and I adore the future planes, but holy crap, old jets look crazy and cool in different ways, and it'd be hilarious to have an AC game where the super plane is like, basically just a proto-F-16 with HOLY CRAP QAAMS WOAH!
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fun fact: If I recall correctly AC5/ACAH's director mentioned that AC3 wasnt well received so they decided to reset everything and used AC4 as a reboot!
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Panzeh posted:Is there an Ace Combat where you can fly a Mig-17? This is important to me. Well, there's a couple where you can fly a MiG-21bis, does that help? Personally I've played and completed 2,4,5,0,X1 and X2 and if I'm honest the PS2 games are the pinnacle of the series, they have the best split between gameplay and difficulty, also awesome sequences that makes you feel like a loving boss. 
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Skwerl posted:fun fact: Though, considering that some elements in the series since that reboot fit nicely into the Strangereal we see in Electrosphere (the growing influence of arms manufacturers, the prevalence of COFFIN style cockpits in the future jets in X) I think it's safe to say that 3 can still be considered "canon". Really, the thing I've always been a little sad about is that they decided not to reference the Ulysses impacts in 5 or Zero at all. So much about what happens in Zero would make more sense if the specter of a mass extinction event had been looming over everyone in the Belkan War (A World With no Boundaries certainly comes closer to making sense if many of its members believe most of humanity is doomed anyway). Ernie Muppari fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jul 12, 2013 |
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Skwerl posted:Hey Punkboy, would you mind if I use your OP content? I will credit you of course. Absolutely! Also feel free to make any additions/changes. I feel like I may have missed some stuff and/or got information wrong. I actually enjoyed Assault Horizon, for what it's worth. The scripted DFM moments were bad, but using it normally was a lot of fun, especially in multiplayer where aerial duels could get downright bloodthirsty. And while the trailers made it seem like the tone was going all Call of Duty, from what I recall the tone in the game itself was still Ace Combat. I really enjoyed Bishop, Guts, Spooky, and D-Ray as characters, and I thought the music was top notch. Definitely better that 6's, which only had a couple memorable tracks. I am all for going back to Strangereal, though. Gotta get my superweapon/trench run fix. EDIT: And by "absolutely," I mean "absolutely go ahead and use it." Just realized now that it looks confusing. 
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Ernie Muppari posted:WHAT?! How does-? That's dumb.
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Insert name here posted:The Ka-50 can carry bombs in real life too (unless you're talking about how you can't use the DLC planes in the campaign, which is dumb).  As far as I remember, in the actual game, the Apache was not allowed to carry bombs, though.
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Insert name here posted:The Ka-50 can carry bombs in real life too (unless you're talking about how you can't use the DLC planes in the campaign, which is dumb). Yeah, the not being able to fly them part is what I was talking about. Seriously, why the even hell?
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Ernie Muppari posted:Yeah, the not being able to fly them part is what I was talking about. Seriously, why the even hell?
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Ernie Muppari posted:Yeah, the not being able to fly them part is what I was talking about. Seriously, why the even hell? It's stupid, but after you finish the (short) campaign, there's no reason not to play on free missions. You miss out on cutscenes, but you can fly any of the jets.
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 The game should let you be absolutely terrifying to the entire enemy side again, and it should have as many as possible crazy alternate-reality-Earth scenarios that pit a 80s arcade version of a fighter jet against a flying aircraft carrier or a fortress on tank treads or something else that's incredibly stupid (yet vaguely based on real world technology.) Also, if they're going to make it story-centric, I hope it's more of a retrospective story like in 04 and Zero (through that is more of personal preference).
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Just start me off in the first mission as an F-4E for old times sake  Though I don't recall if Zero threw you into a F-4 at the start. 6 was a F-16, gently caress Assault horizon.
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movax posted:Just start me off in the first mission as an F-4E for old times sake Zero had the F-5, Draken, and the F-1. The Draken owned and I want to see it back. 
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movax posted:Just start me off in the first mission as an F-4E for old times sake I did appreciate playing the first jet mission in AH in an F-4. Basically Area 88 in a video game since it was me in an F-4 shooting down MiG-21s in a desert over an oil refinery. Zero Zero Section heyo. But no matter what universe they put the game in, we desperately need some 60s vintage aircraft. Modern jets are neat, prototypes are cool, fictional stuff is great but goddamn can I bomb around in an F-8 Crusader please thank you?
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Psion posted:I did appreciate playing the first jet mission in AH in an F-4. Basically Area 88 in a video game since it was me in an F-4 shooting down MiG-21s in a desert over an oil refinery. Zero Zero Section heyo. Yeah, some Century Series action would be awesome. Last time I remember flying a F-8 around in a game was in Jane's Fighters Anthology I think.
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Psion posted:I did appreciate playing the first jet mission in AH in an F-4. Basically Area 88 in a video game since it was me in an F-4 shooting down MiG-21s in a desert over an oil refinery. Zero Zero Section heyo. Vintage jets would be cool, and they'd probably still work well in these games. I remember X2 had two old aircraft you could use, they were old propeller planes and couldn't use any missiles, which makes sense but that's a pain in the rear end. Older jets would at least have some variety.
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Fighting Falken posted:Vintage jets would be cool, and they'd probably still work well in these games. I remember X2 had two old aircraft you could use, they were old propeller planes and couldn't use any missiles, which makes sense but that's a pain in the rear end. Older jets would at least have some variety. Well the Project Aces people also did that Sky Crawlers game, where every plane was a WWII era bullet thrower, and I've heard that it was perfectly cromulent. So I think they could totally do a 60s/70s early jet fighter game and make it awesome. Also, please tell me that Assault Horizon Legacy will actually allow me to remap yaw control to the shoulder buttons, and I just haven't figured out how to do it yet. I'm dreading having to shoot down that super missile using only guns, while having to take my thumb off the analog stick to do minor steering adjustments.
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It seems to be the common theme, but I really hope this one is more like Ace Combat 5 and less like Assault Horizon. Even if the combat was mindless lockon-fire missile-repeat, I had a lot more fun with it than the super Modern Warfare-like rails dogfights. Leave it in if you have to, but don't MAKE me use it. Also give me a plane/emblem painter. I want to make Dazzle Camo. There's no mention of what platforms this is for right? A launch window Ace Combat game might make me get a PS4 quicker than I was planning.
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I really want a remake of 3. Like, more than anything else. Sadly like the other game with a 3 in it I want, it'll never happen. I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who feels that way, especially since the US never got the second disc. 
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I just hope we're going back to Strangereal this time. Playing Ace Combat in a real world setting just felt...wrong. Also, bring back the MiG-21. That thing was cool.
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I hope they keep the machine gun pods on the MiG-21 from AH. Those were the best.
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something fun for you guys: Now if you wonder what this is.... this is a garage kit created by AC series head artist/art director 20 years ago. According to him, arkbird and stonehenge are strongly inspired by this design.
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DarkSol posted:I'm really glad that I'm not the only one who feels that way, especially since the US never got the second disc. That... isn't quite the case. We got some missions from the second disc. The thing is, like 99 percent of the cutscenes and all of the characters were essentially ripped out of the game. They more or less kept the plot in there, well, at least one of the plots. I dunno. The US release of AC3 was a goddamn mess. I'm definitely with you on the remake front though.
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