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Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.

S-Alpha posted:

Anyone else shooting for that Phoenix emblem?

I am, but I'm not entirely sure I can still get it at this point. I finally dropped below 10,000 in the ranking overnight, and even with a forced sortie using all three units of my supplied fuel this morning I only gained back about as many ranks as I had normally been with one (I miss that forced sortie on Pipeline where I shot up a couple thousand ranks, I wish that would keep happening).

My plan was to wait until the final hours and then forced sortie all the time to hopefully get back to the top thousand as quickly as possible, but the way things are looking now I'll be lucky if I can even get back under five-thousand. Still, sitting on fifteen stocked fuel at the moment, and all of my supplied should recharge before all's said and done, so I should still have a shot.


On the plus side, I finally got the Zipang and the Tokyo OEL medal thing.

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RubberLuffy
Mar 31, 2011
Never played an AC game before, but I think this is pretty fun. The fuel system is, of course, a real annoyance but it's not like I need to be playing the game 24/7.

Questions though, when do SP weapons start being upgradeable? How does Matching Rate (mine is 1564) affect roomsearching? Do you get anything for going through the single player campaign?

PSN name is rubberluffy. Still got about 30 minutes before I get some more fuel, though.

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011
I've been hovering between 3k-7k since it started, running off supplied fuel/refreshes and whatever I get from challenges and rewards, and I'm probably going to have to burn through my small stockpile too to scrape out Mercenary King. Up past 3k it just gets completely ridiculous, so no hope for Phoenix unless you brought your wallet. Or you've been stockpiling since day 1.

Or you're a wizard.

:smugwizard:

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

RubberLuffy posted:

Questions though, when do SP weapons start being upgradeable?
Once you go from Second to First Lieutenant, getting enough XP to cover all 40 levels in between.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Alright, I'm gonna host a room and leave it closed for a bit to get all the goons in one place.

Unless somebody else is already doing it. I was hosting but it was just me and ox and a bunch of pubbies

Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jun 8, 2014

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011
Hell, I'm down to burn off some of this fuel. Throw me an invite. PSN: CNAshel

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011
The F-15E costs 400,000? :negative:

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
I thought the 200k I just saw for the A-10 was crazy haha

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Chaotic Neutral posted:

The F-15E costs 400,000? :negative:
:stonk:
Something tells me, I won't be playing this much longer.

How much is the F-22?

Ham
Apr 30, 2009

You're BALD!

Pornographic Memory posted:

Alright, I'm gonna host a room and leave it closed for a bit to get all the goons in one place.

Unless somebody else is already doing it. I was hosting but it was just me and ox and a bunch of pubbies


Chaotic Neutral posted:

Hell, I'm down to burn off some of this fuel. Throw me an invite. PSN: CNAshel

We killed many things, fun playing with you guys. Those pubbies were loving awful though.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

SelenicMartian posted:

:stonk:
Something tells me, I won't be playing this much longer.

How much is the F-22?

Same question, but for the SU-35. I'm already nervous about it being down a line with a few mandatory double-part purchase requirements to move down.

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011

Ham posted:

We killed many things, fun playing with you guys. Those pubbies were loving awful though.
I tempered my decent scores by crashing into something literally every mission. I always wind up smacking into the side of Aegis cruisers while trying to squeeze out maximum damage at 1200 mph. Give me something with a throttle and the next thing you know I'm just yelling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygBP7MtT3Ac

Scob
Jul 17, 2005

I crash a lot in this game both internet and ground scraping wise, some japanese guy told me i was a shameful gaijin lol.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Ham posted:

We killed many things, fun playing with you guys. Those pubbies were loving awful though.

Yeah those were good games. Those were some crazy scores you were putting up in that F-15C.

I have no idea who that one pubbie BAKsomethingsomethingBLKADOF3 was. He got in when the room was closed somehow and he kept us from having an all-goon team, since it was treating him like I invited him, putting him in a team with me by default. :argh:

Scob posted:

I crash a lot in this game both internet and ground scraping wise, some japanese guy told me i was a shameful gaijin lol.

I'll bet you haven't even spent your way to a Raptor yet western pig

Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jun 8, 2014

Levantine
Feb 14, 2005

GUNDAM!!!

Pornographic Memory posted:

I thought the 200k I just saw for the A-10 was crazy haha

The initial unlock fee is way higher for those jets than it is to upgrade them though. Level 2 for the A-10 is like 20k. I guess they just want to grind with the angels til you unlock them though!

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...
For those who are wondering about the plane specs:
http://seesaawiki.jp/ace-infinity/d/FIGHTER%20-%20%c0%ef%c6%ae%b5%a1

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

The price of taking a Fishbed from level 6 to level 7 is 288,000? Are they nuts? I mean, SAAM is good under certain conditions, but what the hell.

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...

SelenicMartian posted:

:stonk:
Something tells me, I won't be playing this much longer.

How much is the F-22?

if it makes you feel any better, apparently the fully kitted out zipang performs almost as well as full fledged raptor.
so you can technically have a pretty high end fighter on the cheap if you are lucky.

Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.

Oh good, the Su-35 only costs about 250 thousand. That's not too bad, if I'm willing to let all research progress halt entirely for a few days while I try to make the extra cash (I'm gonna need another elite merc contract). And it has overall better stats than the Typhoon, which costs almost twice as much.






oh god the f-22 and t-50 are nearly seven hundred thousand each :negative:


SelenicMartian posted:

The price of taking a Fishbed from level 6 to level 7 is 288,000? Are they nuts? I mean, SAAM is good under certain conditions, but what the hell.

I think they did something to the SAAMs in this game from the days of AC5 and Zero when I fell in love with those. I've fired off every one of them on my F-15C in the three or four sorties I've flown with it so far, and I think I've hit maybe two planes with them. This isn't even taking into account the fact that those two planes I've hit with them were the super-tough IL-76's, so I technically don't even have a single kill with them yet.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
Is there no active countermeasure option in this game, like flares/chaff? In AH it was to push in the left stick, but in AC:I, it seems it's "turn hard" or "get hit".

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...

Ugly In The Morning posted:

Is there no active countermeasure option in this game, like flares/chaff? In AH it was to push in the left stick, but in AC:I, it seems it's "turn hard" or "get hit".

nope, the best way to go about it is to pay attention the radar screen. you don't really have to dodge all of the missiles.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

SelenicMartian posted:

The price of taking a Fishbed from level 6 to level 7 is 288,000? Are they nuts? I mean, SAAM is good under certain conditions, but what the hell.

It's almost like they want you to pay into their lovely fuel mechanic and grind out those plane bux.

Scob posted:

I crash a lot in this game both internet and ground scraping wise, some japanese guy told me i was a shameful gaijin lol.

obviously it's because we roll them constantly in bf4

Valcione
Sep 12, 2007
For All Brave Silpheed Pilots


S-Alpha posted:

Yeah, there's like 14 hours left. I dropped like 150 spots in the last 12 hours of not playing, so things are definitely gearing up. I hope I don't have to grind out any more points, I just want to coast to top 1000 from here, don't hurt me JP night squad. :ohdear:

Anyone else shooting for that Phoenix emblem?

I know I am. Got 20 stocked fuel, and I'm sitting at rank 1004 right now. If I can just sneak into the 800's or 700's before I go to work tonight, I should be alright.

Insane Totoro
Dec 5, 2005

Take cover!!!
That Totoro has an AR-15!
For people looking for credits, use the Forced Sortie to your advantage. If you see a ton of good people in your room, sortie with 3x fuel and get a 3.50x multiplier on your cash and exp.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Insane Totoro posted:

For people looking for credits, use the Forced Sortie to your advantage. If you see a ton of good people in your room, sortie with 3x fuel and get a 3.50x multiplier on your cash and exp.

This. Though if you are patient, save it for moby dick pursuits when you know the team is good. My record is 290K on moby dick pursuit 2 with the 3.5 multiplier.

Also, aiming for the phoenix emblem as well. Logged off earlier in mid 200s, will not be able to log on before the event ends. Hoping that my rank will not drop too much.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Weissritter posted:

This. Though if you are patient, save it for moby dick pursuits when you know the team is good. My record is 290K on moby dick pursuit 2 with the 3.5 multiplier.

Also, aiming for the phoenix emblem as well. Logged off earlier in mid 200s, will not be able to log on before the event ends. Hoping that my rank will not drop too much.

I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. There's 7 hours left, and in the last 8 hours I only dropped about 20 ranks. We're good to go. :respek:

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

S-Alpha posted:

I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. There's 7 hours left, and in the last 8 hours I only dropped about 20 ranks. We're good to go. :respek:

That is good to know. How many points do you have?

Also, unlocked both the T-50 and F-22 thanks to playing quite a bit for the tournament. I am... not doing so well with them compared to my Super Hornet though.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Weissritter posted:

That is good to know. How many points do you have?

Also, unlocked both the T-50 and F-22 thanks to playing quite a bit for the tournament. I am... not doing so well with them compared to my Super Hornet though.

I've got 174,119 right now, and I might play a bit more tonight just to burn my supplied fuel and get the last two planes I need to level 5 for that challenge.

And the T-50 at least develops so fast, it's insane. I know it's kinda objectively worse than the F-22, but it looks cool so whatever. Now give me some skins for it, Namco. :colbert:

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

It is not objectively worse though, I think. It trades speed for better mobility over the F-22. Otherwise they have similar stats (and slightly different upgrade slot distribution).

But yes, I think it looks cooler as well.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Good games the other night, Skwerl! Hope to get more games in with goons! PSN: PunkBoy412

Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.

S-Alpha posted:

I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. There's 7 hours left, and in the last 8 hours I only dropped about 20 ranks. We're good to go. :respek:

S-Alpha posted:

I've got 174,119 right now

I'm hoping this means that there is a large point-gap between where you're at and everywhere else rather than me needing to make a hundred-thousand points within the next few hours to even dream of getting the Scarface emblem/Mercenary King nickname out of this, much less Phoenix (although, thinking about it, even if that is the case it might still be just on the side of "possible"). I've got about 22,000 points and I'm sitting just below the ten-thousandth rank.

Well, we'll see how far I can get once my supplied fuel recharges and I go on an all-out fuel binge.

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011

Kadorhal posted:

I'm hoping this means that there is a large point-gap between where you're at and everywhere else rather than me needing to make a hundred-thousand points within the next few hours to even dream of getting the Scarface emblem/Mercenary King nickname out of this, much less Phoenix (although, thinking about it, even if that is the case it might still be just on the side of "possible"). I've got about 22,000 points and I'm sitting just below the ten-thousandth rank.

Well, we'll see how far I can get once my supplied fuel recharges and I go on an all-out fuel binge.
I'm rank 5795 right now with 32772 points in, so it's a pretty wide gap.

I also don't think I'm going to be able to climb back into the 5k. So little fuel left, and the replenish mission went away. :negative: I'd have to gain 200 ranks with each and every fuel expenditure left.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Chaotic Neutral posted:

I'm rank 5795 right now with 32772 points in, so it's a pretty wide gap.

I also don't think I'm going to be able to climb back into the 5k. So little fuel left, and the replenish mission went away. :negative: I'd have to gain 200 ranks with each and every fuel expenditure left.

One way is to look for lobbies with high average rating. You may not get a good personal score, but S-ranking a mission with like... 2 minutes to spare gives you a lot of points for the event. Aerospace center defense is bad for that too, since the fastest I have seen the rocket launch is with a minute to go.

Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.

Weissritter posted:

One way is to look for lobbies with high average rating. You may not get a good personal score, but S-ranking a mission with like... 2 minutes to spare gives you a lot of points for the event. Aerospace center defense is bad for that too, since the fastest I have seen the rocket launch is with a minute to go.

Yeah, every time I learn more about how this game actually works I also learn that I like Aerospace a little less. The hovercrafts, much like XSAMs everywhere else, apparently aren't worth as many points as they should be given the kind of punishment they can take, the emergency mission targets always come in way too far away from where the actual mission is going on (Scinfaxi in particular, I've killed it maybe half of the times it's come up and none of those times were at Aerospace), and S-ranks just generally do not happen here. I think the highest I've got at Aerospace Defense is B, whereas Alps, Tokyo and Pipeline I've S-ranked at least once or twice each.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Kadorhal posted:

Yeah, every time I learn more about how this game actually works I also learn that I like Aerospace a little less. The hovercrafts, much like XSAMs everywhere else, apparently aren't worth as many points as they should be given the kind of punishment they can take, the emergency mission targets always come in way too far away from where the actual mission is going on (Scinfaxi in particular, I've killed it maybe half of the times it's come up and none of those times were at Aerospace), and S-ranks just generally do not happen here. I think the highest I've got at Aerospace Defense is B, whereas Alps, Tokyo and Pipeline I've S-ranked at least once or twice each.

For my super hornet, hovercrafts take 2 shot, so it is not that bad. There is a definite pattern to Aerospace though. Clean up the two sides, converge at the middle since that is close to where all the possible emergency missions will be. Once that is done, either a fleet will spawn near center, or bunch of stuff at west, I think.

If your team wipes everything out, you get to fly around and wait for the rocket to launch. My recent preference is to chase the rocket, and try to stay in its exhaust trail.

Skwerl
Sep 3, 2006
damn kids...

PunkBoy posted:

Good games the other night, Skwerl! Hope to get more games in with goons! PSN: PunkBoy412

yea, I was kinda surprised to run into you there!

p.s. I just blew a contract +3 reserve fuels on MDII... I hope that was worth it.

ACES CURE PLANES
Oct 21, 2010



Nah, it's usually worth it to burn 3 fuel on Moby Dick missions. The rewards are huge, and even moreso for MDII.

And yet I've still yet to see MDIII. Goddamn that's rare.

Chaotic Neutral
Aug 29, 2011
Yeah, I don't think 4250 will be enough to survive the next five hours, but thems the breaks.

Still, beats failing to crawl into the 5ks at all.

(Adding insult to injury: still no sign of the Zipang anywhere. 1200 credits.. 1200 credits.. 1200 credits..)

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

MVPed Moby Dick I on a podded Fishbed :dealwithit: And some idiot brought Zipang there. And then Zipang dropped for me and it costs under 4,000.

The challenges just told me, that going from lv.5 to lv.6 requires an additional item.

With about 26k points I'm near 8200. The top of the ranking climbs steep.

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Kadorhal
Jun 3, 2013

Look, just sign the stupid petition. I've got stuff to do.
Well, that's that. I'm out of fuel and won't get more until after the tournament's over, and I'm only sitting at 5660. Just have to hope I don't drop down past 10,000 again in two hours' time.

EDIT: On the plus side: I S-ranked Dubai for the first time (impressive given I've played it maybe three times prior), my frantic climb back up the rankings included jumping over a thousand places ahead twice in a row, I ended up getting three more units of stocked fuel through various drops for one more sortie, my Mirage 2000-5 can now launch 4AAMs if I need it to (I am very sad that my slowest plane is quickly becoming the only one worth flying), and I'm now one step further on my path to both the Su-35 and F-15E.

Kadorhal fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Jun 9, 2014

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