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Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
So what's the general opinion on internet travel agencies such as Opodo, Expedia, Tripsta, etc.?
I'm looking on travelling to Istanbul from Basel around New Years Eve, and while the usual price is around 300-400€, those sites seem to have killer deals about 80-100€ according to Kayak, what gives? Any experience on that?
Thanks!

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Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
Hey guys! I have the privilege of being invited to the wedding of a good friend of mine in Kansas City in May, but living in Europe I'm kinda lost as to which is the best airport to fly into the US. JFK, ATL, Chicago? I'm not afraid of driving a bit, and the closest airports to me are FRA and CDG (with the TGV).
Right now the cheapest flight I found is from Paris to Chicago for about 400€, but there is a 7h drive to be included.

Also, I was thinking of flying down to Mexico afterwards for vacation, however one-way tickets are way more expensive then round trip tickets... Is that normal? What do I risk in case of a no show?

Thanks guys!

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009

Beef Of Ages posted:

I missed this post the other day. You can price out FRA/CDG-MCI which will have you connecting in JFK, ATL, ORD, or elsewhere and compare that with the price of booking directly to those cities and then having a separate ticket for the domestic US bits. I would also price FRA/CDG-US and then MEX(et. al)-FRA/CDH as a multi-city ticket to see if it's cheaper than trying to return to the US for a round trip out of a US gateway. Not messing with the US means not dealing with US immigration again as well which, depending on the airport and time of day, can be a significant win.

And yes, as noted in the OP, one-way international tickets are often much more expensive than round trips; searching multi-city can help overcome this.

Thanks for the feedback! Indeed, multi-city is the cheapest I found, although tickets are separate. Otherwise, the best option seems to be CDG to ORD, then ORD to MCI and finally MCI to MEX.

If I book a round trip CDG-ORD but won't show up on the flight back, it counts as a no-show right? Is there any risk in that?

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
Hey plane specialists! We're 2 Europeans (French and German) currently planning a last minute trip to Asia from South America. We found the following flights for a fair price:

07 Feb - Cali, Colombia to LAX with American Airlines - Departure 08:00 AM, arrival 05:15 PM with a 2h25m layover in Miami

08 Feb - LAX to Tokyo Haneda with Delta - Departure 07:00 AM, arrival 03:10 PM (the next day) with a 1h15m layover in Seattle

How does that seem?
Are 2h25m enough time to clear border controls and customs in Miami, or we should we plan more time?
Are 13h50m enough time between 2 international flights from different companies? I've read online to plan at least 24h in case one flight is delayed or cancelled, but that does seem a bit long - especially as the only flight later from LAX is the same flight with Delta at 07:30 PM, but with a 12h overnight layover in Seattle.

Thanks a lot folks!

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009

Saladman posted:

2h25 minute layover in Miami: Probably OK. Immigration times can vary greatly, but probably 30 minutes as a ballpark average is a safe (but not guaranteed) estimate. However there are approximately 900 flights a day from MIA to LAX so you'll be fine even if you somehow miss that connection due to immigration lines, since you booked the same itinerary for Cali->Miami->LAX. I think you know this, but just in case: the USA does not do "international areas" like European airports: you have to clear customs and enter the country, meaning you also need an ESTA. There are no exit customs nor exit immigration; a flight from LA to Tokyo is identical to a flight from LA to New York, from the flyer's perspective.

1h15 layover in Seattle LAX - SEA - HND is tight but probably OK, if there are no flight delays. Is there a later flight on that same day from SEA to HND, just in case you miss the connection? Otherwise you're stuck with a 24h layover anyway and you had to get up at 4:30am for your flight out of LA. I'd consider 1h15 safe for a domestic transfer, but you never know with flight delays.

I think the flights that are booked separately is OK in that particular instance since there are several flights from Cali to Miami and a million from Miami to LAX, so you'll almost certainly get to LAX by the night of the 7th, but if you wanted to be safer then I guess book the 7:30pm flight out of LAX. I'd personally go for the 7:30pm flight anyway and get a nice airport hotel in Seattle, because gently caress getting up at 4:30am for a 7:00am flight if it's not my only option. You lose half a day in Japan, but otoh you'll only be tired and jetlagged instead of absolutely wiped and jetlagged. Depends on your bodies of course.

Thanks for the quick feedback! Our ESTA is still valid, thanks for the reminder ;) Yeah we've never had layover in the US arriving from abroad, but last time we arrived at Chicago from France immigration took us almost 2 hours, hence why I am wary. Otherwise there is a flight from MIA to LAX 2h30m later if I want to be on the safe side.

My main issue with SEA is that either we have a 14h layover in LAX plus 1h15 in SEA, or we have a 24h+ layover in LAX plus 12h in SEA. We'd rather avoid the latter, as it will be either very tiring or very expensive in hotels... I was more afraid of not arriving on time in LAX and missing the 7AM to SEA to be honest.

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
Thanks a lot for your answers! I'll have to look into going to SEA directly, that's a great idea :)
Current prices are 290$ for CLO-LAX and 427$ for LAX-HND, without checked luggage. Not cheap, but then again we're booking quite late.

/Edit: going directly to Seattle is not an option unfortunately, as direct flights to Tokyo cost 995$ :v:

I was also wondering, given that the AA is proposing such a short layover in Miami: if we miss our connecting flight because of border control or customs, are they obliged to get us on another flight, or would we be SOL?

/Edit2: found a cheap direct flight LAX - HND with a company called Zipair, seems to be a low-cost airline... Anyone had experience with them?

Chikimiki fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Jan 8, 2023

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
Alright thanks! In the meantime I found a cheaper flight with Air Canada, 551$ for 2 flights: BOG-YYZ on Feb 07, and YYZ-NRT on Feb 08. Unfortunately once I try to book it I get an error message, BK_ORD_001 :v: Wrote to their support already, anybody had a similar problem with them? Thanks!

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
Air Canada's site, multi destination. If I try to book the segments individually, it's much more expensive, almost double the price.

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009

Saladman posted:

That sounds way better as an itinerary, except that you have to get to Bogota, and there’s some chance of Toronto being a frozen wasteland. Still, better two flights through the tundra rather than four through warmer places. I didn’t realize you hadn’t already bought the first flight to LAX. For buying the tickets, try a private browser window — if you have security extensions that can mess with a lot of flight websites.

For finding good tickets, I use Google Flights always now, since several years. It doesn’t sell the tickets but links you directly to the flight company at the end of the search. Very occasionally it gives an incorrect price.

Yeah that's what I figured - 2 flights is easier, even if we have to pass through a cold area. Plus, we have free bagage allowance which is getting increasingly rare these days. Bogota is actually quite easy to get to go Cali, we've been around a lot in Colombia.

I actually do the same as you for tickets, I found these by messing around with the connecting city in Google flights! Unfortunately still no luck in booking them, tried different browsers as well but no dice. From some quick googling it seems to be a common problem with the AC website...

/Edit: strangely enough, if I try the same route but starting from Miami (MIA-YYZ & YYZ-NRT) it works, I'm able to advance until the payment site :shrug:

Chikimiki fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Jan 9, 2023

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Chikimiki
May 14, 2009

Beef Of Ages posted:

The other thing to consider is that if you can do BOG-YYZ or whatever, you don't have to transit the US and deal with immigration and all those other things. Canada is a real country with international transit capabilities.

Google is apparently having problems pricing this sort of trip which probably means AC is not filing valid fares in the markets for whatever reason. I see CLO-BOG-YYZ-YVR-NRT leaving on February 7 for $647 one way but becomes $1800 if you try to book it. There's a few other things out there out of MEX that are a little more, but not sure what your budget looks like.

Edit: Air Canada is offering MEX-YUL-NRT leaving on the 8th with an overnight in Montreal for $776. Doesn't touch the US but you'll definitely need warmer clothing than you need in Cali.

Thanks for searching! Gonna check out MEX as well. Seems like fares overall are a bit fudged at the moment.
I've also looked for online travel agencies, I've found the BOG-YYZ-NRT for 30$ extra with onetravel.com but I've got no idea how reliable that is, I've always booked directly with airlines.

UPDATE: finally found the error, our stopover was slightly less than 24h and thus didn't count as one, and couldn't be booked as a multi-city trip. Spending one more night in Toronto made it eligible, and we could book our flights to Tokyo from Bogota for 620$. Plus, we have a friend living in Toronto so we'll be able to see her as well!

Thanks for your help goons!

Chikimiki fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Jan 10, 2023

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