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Robindaybird posted:a long boring diabtre on MU* and of course everyone's okay with the straight jacket. The iceberg has, in fact, many tips.
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# ? May 4, 2024 00:53 |
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And there's the line at which I became viciously disillusioned with Piers Anthony. I'm pretty sure I've bitched about that line in here before, but god drat did it bother me. Middle of adolescence, experiencing wild uncertainty with my own sexual orientation, read a lot of escapist fantasy to avoid thinking about it, and then out of loving nowhere I find out that one of my favorite authors thinks it's funny to joke about people like me being put in "straight jackets" for... forced breeding? Correction? I'm pretty sure he didn't even think the implications through there, which is even more insulting than if he were just outright homophobic. I think I managed to force my way through a book or two after that, but I kept noticing that his writing was actually pretty horrible and dropped the series. I look forward to seeing what kind of complete nonsense I missed out on.
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# ? Apr 3, 2014 14:37 |
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How in the world have you guys suffered through thirty pages--two dozen loving books--of this poo poo? Over the past two weeks I've read this thread up to the third book, but I just can't go on. There's too much Piers Anthony and too little poo poo that doesn't make me want to become a Fahrenheit 451-style firefighter.
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# ? Apr 7, 2014 02:40 |
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Verus posted:How in the world have you guys suffered through thirty pages--two dozen loving books--of this poo poo? Over the past two weeks I've read this thread up to the third book, but I just can't go on. There's too much Piers Anthony and too little poo poo that doesn't make me want to become a Fahrenheit 451-style firefighter. Lots of skimming. Piers Anthony's insipid prose isn't able to hold my interest, even when it's at its train-wreckiest, so I'll often skip to the reactions then go back to figure out what they were talking about. Like the "straight jackets" thing. Jesus christ. It manages to be a boring lovely joke and have horrific implications. ("A boring lovely joke with horrific implications" describes every facet of Anthony's work, as well as his writing career as a whole.)
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# ? Apr 7, 2014 08:59 |
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Hipster Occultist posted:Dear god, 13 year old me was an idiot. WHY DO I NOT REMEMBER THAT RAPE TRIAL! Just discovered this thread because someone linked to it elsewhere. I've still quite a ways to go and I don't remember this at all either! 13-year-old me must have been a goddamn moron.
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# ? Apr 8, 2014 05:58 |
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I've completely forgot about this thread, myself, until Mors reminded me of it. In an instant, all the time I've spent reading this horror in this thread flooded back into my mind. All the effort I've spent to shovel away the imagery theses writing brought, gone. Then, I knew suffering once more. That last update sure as hell didn't helped. Part of me really kind of want to see how the hell this stuff is bad in French. The other, smarter, part of me wants nothing to do with it. I'm still considering myself fortunate that I've avoided Piers Anthony by pure chance when I was 13 and has only been exposed to this as an adult.
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# ? Apr 8, 2014 08:46 |
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Speedball posted:Just discovered this thread because someone linked to it elsewhere. I've still quite a ways to go and I don't remember this at all either! 13-year-old me must have been a goddamn moron.
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# ? Apr 8, 2014 15:17 |
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Nihilarian posted:I'm so sorry YOUUUUU!!! …okay, just caught up with the first part of Castle Roogna. Millie the Ghost's talent as a living human was sex appeal? Piers Anthony must have been like "gently caress, I forgot to give this woman a magic power when she was a ghost…uh… she's sexy! Yeah, that will make her stand out from the crowd!"
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# ? Apr 8, 2014 17:46 |
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People are linking this thread? Huh. Chapter 7 sends us over to Edsel, who is hanging out with Breanna. They worry that Justin and Pia are in trouble, but decide to wait and chat instead. quote:"I guess I fuss too much," she said. "It's just that I love him so, and we haven't been together long, physically I mean, and I'm so afraid I'll lose him to a dragon or something before I ever really have him." She glanced sidelong at him. "Do you act like that with Pia?" Edsel says that he does, and that he notices Breanna. She is happy about this. They decide to play Twenty Questions with Para to learn its history. They learn that it was delivered, not made. Its mother was a boat. quote:"A dream boat?" Breanna said, a bulb flashing over her head. (Pun Count: 130) Which means its father was a duck. Or, rather... quote:They tried variations of ducks, and finally Edsel got it: "A quack. Your father was a quack." (Pun Count: 131) quote:Yes. It turned out that the two had blundered onto a love spring, tricked there by Anemone, which was a water creature with a bad attitude — an enemy, in fact. They desperately signaled the stork about ten times before they managed to get clear of that potent water. The stork works had pondered the order for some months, and finally compromised by delivering one boat with ten pairs of duck feet. By that time the quack was long gone, but the dream boat remained, and she showed Para the ways of the water. But he had to learn the way of the land himself, and that was chancy. (Pun count: 132) quote:Now they wanted to know how Para had come to be associated with the two docks, where Breanna had first encountered him. This was hard to zero in on, but they were making progress — when Justin and Pia returned. Justin explains about the Coventree, and Pia explains her new cause. Edsel agrees to it because it means he'll get sex. quote:Breanna shot a desperate glance at Edsel, but he was lost. He could argue with Pia, he could exchange insults with her. he could be mad at her, but he could not oppose her when she used her sex appeal to win her way. He knew this did not mean that she would remain married to him, but for the duration of his cooperation in her design, she would be his loving girlfriend. That might be the best he could get, and he was incapable of refusing it. Justin pinches Breanna's rear end and explains that Pia taught him how. They head down and get the grand tour. Again. Edsel is surprised that Pia cares so much, but accepts it. In the morning, Edsel has some ideas. The melting is caused by some kind of climate change, not seasons, so there must be a cause for that. quote:They turned to the exit passage—and there across it was an illusion picture. It showed the valley, with no lakes or ponds, the sun shining brightly The Coventree understood their mission, and was acknowledging in its fashion. Edsel realized that the tree could not respond in animate fashion, but could at least make pictures, which it probably had to grow in the course of hours. It must have been working on this one overnight. (Pun Count: 133) Breanna decides it's a quest instead. quote:A shape flew out of the background. It was large, and somewhat clumsy. "Beware," Breanna said. "That's a harpy." Justin introduces himself. They talk briefly about...well, frankly, nothing, and Handi leaves. quote:Breanna watched her go. "Was I too bleepy?" she asked. (Pun Count: 134) quote:The level floor of the valley tilted, providing some leverage so the river could rise toward the distant mountain range. Edsel had never been much for watching scenery, but there wasn't much else to do. Justin and Pia were chatting amiably at the other end of the boat; they seemed to be really hitting it off, after their exploration of the underground gallery. Edsel hardly minded talking with Breanna; she was cute and vivacious. But there was absolutely no prospect of a romantic association there, and he had never had much to do with girls who were not romantic prospects. So he was stuck with the scenery. Fortunately it was varied and interesting. (Pun Count: 135) quote:"Well, I'm not sure. Maybe they only make you think you're smart. I'll find out." She waved to the woman. "Hi! I'm Breanna of the Black Wave, my talent is seeing in blackness, and I have a question." The duck-footed boat obligingly drew to a halt so she could have the dialogue. (Pun Count: 136) quote:"Intelligence, or cultivating vines?" Edsel asked. (Pun Count: 137) quote:Breanna was interested. "What effect would such a vine have on someone like me?" Breanna brings up zombies, confusing Edsel, then drops it without ceremony. quote:Then she caught him about the shoulders, drew him close enough to be well aware of those things she had worth feeling. and kissed him so soundly that it felt as if the boat were tipping over the brink of a waterfall. Then Breanna explains that she is working for zombies' civil rights. A girl riding a centaur shows up. quote:"Hi." the girl replied. She wore a hat that said Tom, but maybe she had borrowed it. Unless she was a tom boy. "I'm Heather. I'm ten. and my talent is relating to dragons. I'm looking for one who's not hungry at the moment. I don't know the best way to the mountains, but I'm sure Shaunture does." (Pun Count: 138) quote:The centaur seemed reluctant to talk. He merely pointed upriver. "My concern is that the river may meander, and we would like to reach the mountains expeditiously." Justin said. (Pun Count: 140) quote:Breanna sat up straight. Edsel put a cautioning hand on her brown arm. (Pun Count: 147) quote:"Yes," the centaur agreed. "Their Mundane costume is quaint, but—" He paused, for now a clownish costume had formed around him. (Pun Count: 148) quote:"If you take a slightly different angel. you can—" The centaur paused, for an angel had appeared hovering before him. complete with glowing halo and white wings. (Pun Count: 150) quote:"Thank you," Justin said. "You have been a real help. So has Heather." (Pun Count: 151) Shaunture stops talking. quote:"Heather. I think your talent is relating to creatures, not just dragons." Breanna said to the girl. "Maybe you should stay with Shaunture, who really needs you." (Pun Count: 152) They mention that Shaunture reminds them of Metria, so she shows up. quote:The smoke coalesced into a lovely buxom form, bound by an elastic halter stretching almost to the snapping point. "And you found the foul footed boat." (Pun Count: 158) She drops Ted and DeMonica off, then leaves. quote:"Maybe the two of them will one day grow up and marry each other," Pia muttered. "And the stork will bring them children they have to baby-sit." They find a Mundane hitchhiker named Gabriel and pick him up. quote:"I guess it does show." Gabriel said, abashed. "I'd like to live in Xanth. I made a deal. I can visit Xanth for a week. I can stay here if I can find a family to adopt me or a girl to marry me. Otherwise I must return forever to drear Mundania." He's fourteen, so he can't marry. He might find a family. (He'd take a nymph, but she'd break the Conspiracy way too fast.) quote:There was a fairly sharp turn in the path. Para, traveling rapidly, was off-balanced by the extra weight, and his side scraped against a sad looking tree. It emitted a sighing sound. (Pun Count: 159) They find a woman looking for a lake. Gabriel says there's one nearby. quote:"Because I saw fire ants near a fire, and earth ants near earth, and air ants near air. I saw water ants here, so there must be water near." (Pun Count: 162) The woman's name is Alexandra, a were-dolphin. She wants to find another of her kind because she's lonely. Gabriel says that he'd love to settle down with her. quote:Edsel exchanged a glance with Breanna. "Would you consider marrying a boy without violating the Adult Conspiracy?" They talk, and Breanna wonders why the snowy mountains are so cold, since temperature doesn't drop with elevation in Xanth. quote:"Well, once I met two brothers. One could turn himself into ice The other could turn anything else to ice. Maybe those brothers live in the mountains." They find a lake, and Alexandra turns dolphin and jumps in. Gabriel heads in after her, confident she can protect him from any danger. quote:"They won't bother me," he said, pausing at the edge to rip off his clothing. "Not with a dolphin friend protecting me." (Pun Count: 163?) They spot a shark, but Alexandra scares it off. The kids go swimming, too. They find the centaur magician Rempel. quote:"I thought all centaurs had names with CH sounds." Edsel said. (Pun Count: 164) They then find magic roses that levitate anything of their own color. quote:Breanna looked around. "What's that? It doesn't look quite like a centaur." (Pun Count: 165) She was a kid in Mundania. She loving knows what a horse is! quote:Rempel suddenly galloped to the edge of the lake. "Away! Away!" he cried, splashing the water with his forehoofs. (Pun Count: 166) quote:"To save Hugh Manatee," Edsel said. (Pun Count: 167) quote:Alexandra and Gabriel emerged from the lake. She changed to clothed human form in one motion; clothes seemed to be part of her magic. Thus she wasn't violating the Adult Conspiracy by showing him any panties. Gabriel had to clothe himself the ordinary way, but since Alexandra was of age, it didn't matter what she saw. (Pun Count: 168) quote:Rempel shrugged. "It is convenient to know the talents of things. I can show you a lie-lack bush if you wish; a person near it can't tell a lie. Or a ruler; that writing device takes control of the person who uses it." (Pun Count: 170) Rempel directs them higher into the mountains and tells them to be careful - there are two paths, and one is dangerous. quote:"This is a beautiful place." Pia said. "Justin has been pointing out its novelties. For example, there's a chemis-tree." (Pun Count: 171) quote:"And a water chestnut tree." Pia said, indicating another. The nuts were in the shape of damp little chests. (Pun Count: 172) quote:They got into the boat. The duck feet carried them along the path up the river "We need to take the — " Edsel began. (Pun Count: 173) But they aren't sure which path they took. quote:"Did we take the wrong one?" Justin asked. "There was a pitchfork back near where we saw the adder." (Pun Count: 176) They run into a demon centaur, which chases after them. They head onto a river, and it doesn't follow, but shouts that they'll be sorry. quote:Now Edsel saw creatures standing between the trees that lined the hall. They had the lower portions of men and the upper portions of bulls. They looked ferocious, but they weren't moving. "What are those?" he asked. (Pun Count: 177) As they head on, the trees get thicker, and horrible, ugly people grab onto the boat. quote:"Who arc you?" Ted asked a horrendous male face as it drew up over the rim. (Pun Count: 180) quote:So that was how his talent worked, in true Xanthian fashion. The dark path lay right under an innocent looking tree, beyond which was open water and light. "Don't go there!" Justin called, and the boat veered to the side, crashing through brush. "Why not?" Edsel asked. "It's a captivi tree." Oh. Of course Justin knew his trees. (Pun Count: 181) They make it through and Breanna gets the kids to take a nap. quote:"You do now," Breanna said. She unfolded one of the stored blankets and draped it over them. It was decorated with pictures of tires. (Pun Count: 182) They check in via the Ear. quote:"Oh, look—Siamese triplets," Breanna said, pointing to the shore. (Pun Count: 183) quote:But they had not escaped cleanly. One of the monsters had poked a hole in the boat. Water was leaking in, forming bilge. Edsel looked for a cup or container to dip it out. The leak wasn't large, but it could not be ignored. (Pun Count: 184) quote:Now they made good progress upriver. "Was there some reason we didn't travel on the river before?" Edsel asked. (Pun Count: 186) A storm rises around them, hurling brains at them. quote:"What kind of storm is this?" he demanded. (Pun Count: 187) quote:The grade steepened, and the temperature dropped. They had to wrap blankets around them to stay warm, because they had forgotten to get better clothing. Justin and Pia shared a blanket in front, and Edsel and Breanna shared one in back. The two demon children did not seem affected by the cold. She asks him to show her groping, and Edsel refuses awkwardly. She claims she was just teasing. quote:"Awww." Ted's voice came. "Aren't you going to even goose her. like this?" He reached under Monica's skirt. They find they're in the area the illusion had showed, and a demon claims to be responsible for the melt. quote:The demon swelled another size. "I am the Demon CoTwo, and I like warming air. I hate ice and snow." (Pun Count: 188) quote:CoTwo expanded another notch "You dare to question me, you burned up urchin? I mean to abolish all cold air in Xanth. starting with the coldest. That is here. After all the snow and ice is gone. I will look for other ice to melt, until the whole land is warm." Breanna yells at CoTwo and says they'll stop him, though she's not sure how. CoTwo blows them downriver. quote:The adults shared a sigh as they helped right the boat and then dragged themselves out of the water. At least they had found out what was causing the problem of rising water. What they would be doing about it was a work still in progress. Pun Count: 188 by the end of Chapter 7.
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# ? Apr 9, 2014 21:42 |
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Mors Rattus posted:People are linking this thread? Huh.
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# ? Apr 9, 2014 22:23 |
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Piers Anthony posted:She was a cute kid, and nicely formed. Piers Anthony posted:She had a very white smile in the subdued light of the illusion castle.
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# ? Apr 9, 2014 22:44 |
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Not to mention:Piers Anthony posted:But there was absolutely no prospect of a romantic association there, and he had never had much to do with girls who were not romantic prospects. The corollary, of course, being that if he writes about them they're romantic prospects.
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# ? Apr 10, 2014 07:07 |
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Speedball posted:Just discovered this thread because someone linked to it elsewhere. I've still quite a ways to go and I don't remember this at all either! 13-year-old me must have been a goddamn moron. His writing is more insidious than the Serpent of Eden, its unreal seeing all of this creepy poo poo that just completely sailed over my head years ago. I mean poo poo I kind of want to invent a time machine just so I can smack the book out of younger me's hands.
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# ? Apr 10, 2014 09:10 |
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Nihilarian posted:Someone (jokingly?) compared Rich Burlew to Piers Anthony in the OoTS thread, and one or two people asked who he was, so I linked this thread. I don't know if it was my link specifically that brought him here, though. It was! I only ever read the first three books in this series back in the day, though I also vaguely remember one which involves a guy whose power is protesting things who hooks up with a bronze girl. Which one in the series is that?
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 05:55 |
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Speedball posted:It was! The first 3 are the least bad of the series, if only because every book in this series is somehow even worse than the previous books. Vale of the Vole is book #10.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 06:22 |
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I'll give him this, Anthony isn't too bad at coming up with puzzles. They're often kind of simplistic but at least he doesn't recycle them. The magic is usually pretty consistent.
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# ? Apr 11, 2014 21:34 |
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Chapter 8. Pia is annoyed at being wet.quote:Well, she had never been one to mope ineffectively. "We need a fire, a tent, and food," she said. "Then we can strip and dry our clothes while we eat in comfort." (Pun Count: 189) quote:"I can make a tent from the blankets," Edsel said. (Pun Count: 190) Pia finds the spiders gross. quote:"No, but—" She realized that she was in danger of looking like a squeamish female. It was true; she was plenty squeamish about bugs and other noxious notions, but she didn't like admitting it. Maybe someone else would balk at eating spiders, and then she could safely do so too. "Okay. I'll make a hearth." Everyone gets busy making camp. quote:Justin returned with the fireweed. This was dull green stuff. But when he laid it in the hearth and said "Fire," it burst into brightly colored flame. The light radiated out, blessedly warm. Pia decides that being in wet clothes is bad and decides to fix it. quote:She would have to lake the initiative. "Let me make sure I understand." she said, standing up. "The Adult Conspiracy decrees that no child shall hear any bad words or see panties. Is that right?" Seriously? Whatever. Breanna strips, too, followed by the men. Vore shows up, ogles the girls and takes the kids, who will be visiting someone named Robota the next day. quote:"However, we have a small problem," he continued. "We have just two tents, and while Edsel and Pia can share one for warmth—" Breanna drags Justin off. quote:Edsel joined her in the other tent, and closed off the ends. "Sometimes I think I could get to like your style." he said, "if I didn't already love you." In the morning, Pia gets dressed and wonders what panties would do on a mannequin, since she accidentally freaks Justin out. She asks Justin about whether it's really wrong to gently caress a sixteen-year-old, and points out that Breanna almost got raped last year and had to fight Ralph off despite the Conspiracy, so there's no magical enforcement against statutory rape. quote:"I do. She did need to fight him off. Which means that aspect is not magically enforced. Some things can be done, but not spoken of, such as natural functions—which this happens to be." She couldn't identify the flavor of pie. "What kind is this?" (Pun Count: 191) quote:"Because it is enforced in every other respect. Maybe you are right. In which case, you don't need to worry. Next time you are with her, don't hold back. The Conspiracy will stop you." She decided that there was indeed a hint of chocolate and coffee flavor in the pie. Justin accepts Pia's advice, tentatively. quote:She had finished her pie. She was satisfied, she had set out to educate him, and might have done Breanna a considerable favor in the process. It was quid pro quo: Pia was monopolizing Justin by day, so she was enhancing him for Breanna by night. Breanna gets up, heads out naked and gets dressed. Then they plan to head to Humfrey's castle. They check in via the Ear, and find that Nimby and Chlorine have not. They also find that Para has lost some toes. quote:Justin looked around. "No wonder," he said, advancing on a patch of milky white weeds. "You walked over lack toes. It's extremely intolerant. Even a protective spell may not suffice to counter it." (Pun Count: 192) quote:"And if we had been walking, we'd be lacking toes too," Breanna said, shuddering. "We must help Para get his toes back." (Pun Count: 193) They find a man named Don to ask for directions. quote:"I am Don. My talent is—" (Pun Count: 194) quote:The man reappeared, with the clothing losing its spots of tightness. His hair was tied back in a ponytail that could have applied to either gender. "Yes. I do know where the quack doctor lives. That's her story. Right this way." (Pun Count: 195) quote:"History—herstory," Edsel murmured as they followed. "I get it—I think." Of course. quote:They followed Dot/Don along another path. Pia verified that the person's clothing did not change with the gender; it was a unisex outfit that filled out in different regions according to the body beneath it. Probably a tunic would have been better, because it was more naturally pliable. She wondered what it would be like if Don/Dot wore no clothing. Edsel's eyes would inflate at sight of the woman, and deflate at sight of the man. What kind of a romantic life would such a person have? They pass some reverse wood, and find that it has been aging backwards. They find the quack doctor - a man named Owen Cossaboon, who is a Mundane and has no magic. He calls his daughter, Sharon, who uses her magic to heal Para's toes. quote:"Yes, but it's not much. I can heal only other folk's injuries," Sharon said. "A few drops of healing elixir could do the same." She picked up another foot. However, Sharon can't heal anything local, due to the reverse wood trees. Anything that's eaten something near them can't be healed by her magic. They head on. quote:They moved out. Pia had to admit it to herself: Xanth was getting to her. She liked it, and she liked the people she was encountering here. It was Edsel who had made the deal to get her here, in the hope that it would change her mind about their marriage. She had deemed that a forlorn hope of his, but his chances no longer seemed quite as remote. If she could just keep her nice body—but of course this wasn't really her body. It was a borrowed body, better than her own. They reach the Gap and start exploring, hunting for the bridge. quote:"They are excellent, but not for eating," he said. "Those are thimble-berries, useful for sewing." He picked one. showing how it was hollow and fit over the tip of the finger. (Pun Count: 197) A flock of harpies show up to stare at Edsel and Justin. quote:"Beware," Justin cried. "We have found a nest of sting-rays." (Pun Count: 198) They decide to make a deal with the harpies to cross the Gap. They ask for kisses in return, but are haggled down. quote:The dirty birds reconsidered. "We're going to the cir-cuss." one screeched. "But it moved and we can't find it." (Pun Count: 199) Justin agrees to direct them to it when they are carried across. We also get a brief explanation of Stanley Steamer. (Pun Count: 200) quote:"It is a long story. Briefly, he was youthenized when they met, and they became friends." (Pun Count: 201) They run into a problem. quote:"We hit a wall," a harpy screeched. (Pun Count: 205) quote:"Now I think I know what it is," Justin said. "It's an air compressor. The walls of air squeeze things between them, and drop them into the Gap." (Pun Count: 206) They escape. quote:The wind of the harpies’ wings dislodged a small object rolling along the brink. It dropped down into the boat and danced about as if hyperactive. It looked like a small tin can. "What's this?" Pia asked, for the moment distracted from the menace of the looming cliff lace. (Pun Count: 207) Justin explains the Good Magician's Castle. We also learn that harpies are mostly immune to the Adult Conspiracy. Justin directs them to the cir-cuss. quote:"But I'm adult, and I can't say bleep." Justin reminesces about Zombie Lover and mentions Mare Imbri so I'll count her name pun. Also, the dream catcher. (Pun Count: 209) They approach the castle and spot a moat monster. Breanna likes moat monsters, because they're classics. Which she apparently likes more than new things? quote:"I wish we had a handbook with instructions," Pia said. (Pun Count: 210) quote:"I know," Edsel said quickly, setting the book down. "Sick joke. Can't read it. I guess it makes me an ill literate." (Pun Count: 211) quote:Para advanced toward the bridge. But then a barrier of sorts appeared It seemed to be a low table with plates and bread set on it. The butter knives were yellow. In fact they seemed to be made of butter. That figured. (Pun Count: 212) They decide to experiment. They find the bread is not for eating. quote:The things on the table came to him. Rolls of assorted types and sizes walked to the center of the table. Then one sprouted hands and picked up a little pastry cowboy hat. putting it on. The bread strutted around in the manner of a tough cowboy. A second one picked up a fancy lady's hat, preening. A third found a crown, and started lording it over the other bread. (Pun Count: 213) quote:It was true. The bread was inert again, without arms or legs. Edsel’s stupid comment must have satisfied a requirement. (Pun Count: 215) Now they can pass. quote:"I think that did it," Breanna said. "You each figured out one of the buns. I mean puns. Now we can eat the bread." She picked up a roll and took a bite from it. There was no protest. (Pun Count: 216) They eat, then find the monster still stops them crossing. They realize someone has to distract it so someone else can cross, and decide to leave Para to be the last distraction and thus not enter the castle proper. They find, however, that it doesn't work. The thing doesn't care about Para or anyone but the person crossing. Breanna and Justin offer to play distraction while Edsel and Pia race across. They decide to try it. quote:"I—" she hesitated, not at all sure this was worth the risk. Then a bulb flashed before her face. "I get it! It's another pun. The human race." (Pun Count: 217) They cross, and the others join them easily, as they aren't challengers. They now find there's a wall around the castle with many doorways and a bunch of piers. They find a centaur with a bow and a man with a spear blocking the first door they try. The man is Christopher Christopher and the centaur is Cy Clone. (Pun Count: 218) quote:She rejoined Edsel. "There seems to be a man or centaur blocking each passage. They look the same, but I'm not sure they are." They check each door. quote:She met Edsel on the far side. "All blocked," she said. "More men than centaurs." They circle around again. quote:They circled together, back the way she had come. When they came to a man/centaur combination, Pia stayed to talk with them, putting on her winsome air and holding their attention. She had always been good at this sort of thing, and with her lovely sixteen year old face and figure, she was better, because she knew exactly how to use these assets. She had never tried fascinating a centaur before, but they had enough human attributes to be subject to some wiles. She smiled, she moved her hips, she gushed over their masculine appeal, she lifted a leg to adjust her shoe, and leaned well forward, showing just enough thigh and breast to guarantee continued attention. It was a science that worked well enough in the land of magic. They realize what's going on as Edsel uses Pia's distraction to try another door. quote:"Clones!" he repealed, catching on. "One centaur, one man, but they can send clones out to intercept any doorway. They might be illusions, looking and sounding just like the originals." Edsel, meanwhile, had Cy Centaur, who he distracted with science talk. They realize the two can focus in on what the clones see and hear, so if they can find the originals, bring them close and anchor them with distractions, they can get past via another door. Pia can distract Christopher, while Edsel uses science to distract Cy. quote:They stepped close to the still figures. "Hello. Chris." Pia said, opening her blouse. She saw that she had his immediate attention. They get past the guards and make it through. quote:So he had been genuinely confused, rather than making one of his sharp remarks. She liked that as well. She stepped into him and kissed him. "You did well." Pun Count: 217 by the end of Chapter 8.
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# ? Apr 16, 2014 21:41 |
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They both do the same job, but the man uses his brain and the woman uses her sex appeal. Of course.
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# ? Apr 16, 2014 22:37 |
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Chapter 9. Chlorine is riding the motorcycle with Nimby.quote:Chlorine rode behind Nimby on the Lemon cycle. enjoying it. He was quite competent now, and obeyed all the obscure signs and signals of the road. Dug and Kim drove their car behind, there to come to the rescue if there were any problem. Exactly as Justin and Breanna would be traveling with the real Edsel and Pia through Xanth, keeping wary eyes out for mischief. Indeed there was mischief to avoid, because the drivers of other cars all seemed to believe that the whole road belonged only to them, and that all others were illicit intruders. They honked their horns and nudged in too close at high speed and made hand signals that Chlorine discovered related to stork signaling in a negative manner. But Nimby, forewarned, ignored them and stayed out of their way. That seemed to satisfy them; they roared on by. Kim had said there was something called a speed limit, but Chlorine must have misunderstood, because no vehicle on the road was honoring any possible limit. (Pun Count: 218) They stop at a motel for the night. However, they find that the O-Xone is unavailable when they go to check in, and assume it's an internet problem. quote:They went to the eatery. It was shaped like a vehicle called a bus, but was larger. Signs all around proclaimed the wares. They got really weird long sandwiches called submersibles, stuffed with every kind of oddity. But they tasted good enough. (Pun Count: 219) However, nothing is fixed when they're done. Dug assumes the server went down. However, Nimby thinks it's no coincidence. He thinks that Earth may be aware of his presence and is trying to trap them. quote:"Just what form would a confinement-to-Mundania contest take?" Dug asked. "I mean, it can hardly go on forever. There must be some limit." Earth can't use magic, and can't make people do things, but controls science, and therefore weather and earth processes. Hurricanes, earthquakes. He won't care about collateral damage. quote:"Got it," Dug said "So maybe this Xone interface problem isn't the Demon E(A/R)th’s work, but just in case it is, we need to explore our options. Are there other ways to return to Xanth?" See, you can't pretend to be a Xanth person without the implicit consent of the real one, or it'll fail. Somehow. quote:"Hoo, boy." Dug said. "You mean there really is a connection between, say, the Xone Irene and Queen Irene?" (Pun Count: 224) Dug tries instead. quote:"Got it." Dug said. "Like quantum physics, the "spooky" connection between the two aspects of a divided photon. What happens to one is reflected in the other, instantaneously, though there is no apparent association between them. Even Einstein had a problem with that, because—" Remember how Chlorine was made to be one of the smartest people in Xanth? Yeah, neither does Anthony. quote:"So they can't just say 'Better half, send help,' and have it understood," Kim said. (Pun Count: 225) quote:"Okay," Kim said. "So what's the message?" (Pun Count: 226) The message means that Nimby is in trouble but needs magic dust so he can use magic in Mundania. quote:"Got it." Kim said, echoing Dug's comment. "Let's get the message out." She typed in the address, and made her way to the Xanth Xone, doing it for Chlorine because she was much faster. This is Salmon Ella with a public message, non spam, for all Xanth Xone regs. Please send these four words to your namesakes only: "GM—Nimby eats dust." She looked up. "Anything else?" They realize that Earth will be aware of what's going on soon, but won't be able to stop everyone because the internet is too big. quote:Nimby touched Chlorine. "Actually he could shut it down." she said. "Because electrical effects are part of his power. But Nimby thinks he won't, because he can't be sure this isn't just a game similar to others the Xoners play, and there would be quite a reaction if the whole Grid collapsed. Dearth doesn't like to be obvious, any more than Nimby does; it's bad Demon form. He prefers to let the ants play out their antics on their own." They then head on towards the mountains as planned. They watch a nature documentary on oceanic pollution and Chlorine asks about why people pollute. quote:"People are short sighted." Dug said "And corporations care for nothing but making more money. But folk are beginning to be aware, and things are starting to be done." Nimby offers to get rid of Pia's insulin requirements, and Chlorine thinks that's a good idea. quote:Later, when they were alone and in their room, and she stripped away her clothing, she had another thought. "I wish panty-magic worked here in Mundania. It gives a girl confidence. For instance, I could just whip away my skirt, like this, and freak you out, unless you clamped your eyes shut just barely in time. But as it is. I can't impress you at all." She went through the motions, and sure enough, he did not freak out. Of course he wouldn't have, being who he was, but still, she would have liked to make the effort. (Pun Count: 227) quote:Late in the day they camped, pitching cozy mini-tents and watching the colored sunset. "I had forgotten how much fun this was." Kim remarked. (Pun Count: 229) Kim gets out her laptop, which can work even out in the mountains because of battery power and a satellite uplink. They check in at the O-Xone without problem, then shut it off. In the night, a storm comes and collapses one of the tents, destroying the laptop with rainwater with eerie precision. Earth is beginning his move. quote:Nimby pointed at the sky. There overhead was a shape in rainbow colors, but it was no rainbow. It was a full circle, with two lines bisecting it, forming a cross. Pun Count: 229 by the end of Chapter 9.
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Mors Rattus posted:Then Breanna returned with an armful of dark brown leggy substance. It was hard to tell where she left off and it began. Really? Really? REALLY?! Oh, and of course Pia thinks her sixteen-year-old body is mind-meltingly sexy and her adult body is dumpy and gross. Even though it's already been established that adult Pia is incredibly hot. Because Anthony.
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# ? Apr 23, 2014 17:58 |
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Remember the stripping tutorial for spreadsheets back in chapter one? Well, Xanthony meets real life: https://codebabes.com/ where you can (maybe) learn coding from a stripping tutoress! There's still debate as to whether the site is a hoax or real, but the similar premise makes me wonder if the Code Babes tutor is named Pia. (Thanks to the Museum of Hoaxes for giving me this dreadful news.)
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# ? Apr 26, 2014 22:06 |
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Chapter 10 and Edsel. Edsel reflects that if he'd only ever realized Pia wanted respect for her mind, they'd never have had marital problems. Breanna and Justin join them inside Humfrey's castle, where they are met by Wira. Yadda yadda, she's blind, designated wives, etc. Rose is on duty this book. (Pun Count: 230)quote:They sat down to a meal of rose hips and rose wine, along with rose potatoes and red gravy. There was rose scented bread with rose petal jelly. It wasn't the most conventional food, but it was good. Rose was a good hostess who seemed genuinely to enjoy their company though they were strangers to her; that was an air not every person had. (Pun Count: 234) Edsel and Pia go and see Humfrey. He tells them that they can't get rid of CoTwo and should ask another question. quote:"I don't care if if makes him explode," Pia said, sounding hysterical. "The trees are drowning, and we've got to save them." You know, the random thing that the demon kids picked up. That poo poo is a vital artifact of power. Humfrey sends them on to Grey Murphy for their service. quote:They took seats on the large toadstools in the room. "We are supposed to see about our Service for our Answer," Edsel said. "But we can't stay in Xanth for a year, much as we might like to." (Pun Count: 235) Grey assures them that their work will take only a day, but is vitally important and must be private and secret. They talk about the nature of temporal paradox and how in Xanth they can time travel. Grey needs to head back in time, but has to know if he alters the present. quote:"I must bore you with a bit of spot personal history," Grey said. "My father is Magician Murphy, who makes things go wrong. My mother is Sorceress Vadne, whose talent is topology. Several centuries ago Murphy tried to wrest the throne of Xanth from the legitimate king, for which he was retired to the Brain Coral's Pool for indefinite storage. Vadne resented Millie the Maid's appeal to the Zombie Master, and topologically converted her to a book. For this she too was banished to the Pool. During the Time of No Magic the two escaped Pool confinement and made a deal with Com Pewter: he enabled them to go to Mundania. where they could not be apprehended. But there was a price: they had to give their future child to Pewter, lor lifelong service. I am that child." This bullshit never stops. Anyway, what Grey has to do... quote:"I will conduct a creature of Pewter's creation to Xanth's past, so she can learn something Pewter wishes to know. The journey would be extremely difficult to accomplish without my assistance, because my talent of nullifying magic is necessary at some points. However—" So, they agree to help. quote:"We will go to Pewter's cave, where he will use his power of reality alteration to establish a connection between the two of us and the two of you. You will be comfortable; in fact you will be able to walk around and talk with each other, as long as you remain with Pewter's sphere of influence. You will know whatever we do, as if you are seeing it yourselves." (Pun Count: 236) quote:"Com Pewter is studying the processes of weather," Grey said. "He is vulnerable to electrical effects, such as lightning, and wishes to learn how to control them. Robota has been crafted to have the capacity to comprehend magical weather, but needs to observe it in action. There-fore she is to be sent to observe the Storm King, who governed Xanth before King Trent took over in the year 1042. He had great power over the weather, and she can learn more from him than perhaps any other person. Because talents do not repeat in exactly the same form, this is the only person who can show her this. So she will go there to study weather." The reason their job is short is that they can fast forward. Their kids, Melody, Harmony and Rhythm, show up and use their magic to play an illusory toy castle into existence with their music. Edsel compliments them on it before it breaks. quote:All three little princesses tried to blush. All they achieved was patches of red on their foreheads, but surely that too would improve as they matured in body and talent. Para takes them to Pewter's cave, with Ivy's help. On the way, they find a break in the path that Pia detects, watched over by a dragon. Grey scares it off and Ivy repairs the path. quote:The journey resumed. "This robot golem I'm to identity with." Pia said "Exactly who and what is she?" (Pun Count: 237) quote:"He was made from wood and string," Ivy said. "But later the Demon X(A/N)th made him real, and he married Rapunzel. Their child, Surprise, can do almost any magic once—and only once. Grundy is a translation golem, so he can speak to and understand any living creature, including insects and plants. It would put him in contention for Magician status, if he were a man." (Pun Count: 239) They point out that, being real, he is a man now. They reach the cave, meet the invisible giant and go in to meet Pewter, explaining the plan to him. Pewter tells them that Chlorine checked in just fine, since he maintains the O-Xone. They go meet with Tristan and Robota, who explain about how Xanth language works. Robota speaks English, French and Italian for when they go into Mundania. She's tuned to know how to do the time travel bullshit with the border. Pia describes her house for Pewter, and he brings it into existence for her to stay in while she's here. They establish the connection and find they can see through Grey and Robota's eyes. quote:"I don't like to ask this question." Edsel said. "But I think I must. Suppose you die?" Grey and Robota head out, while Edsel and Pia lie down to handle the double vision. Grey and Robota head for the border, where Robota's power gets weak. They exit, heading to Italy circa 1885 via the route Trent took. Robota gets them directions to France, and they fast forward to when the pair arrive. Grey joins Trent's army, and Edsel takes a break to check on the others, who are playing cards. quote:Angry swirls of colored light crossed Pewter's screen, his way of showing frustration. Then they cleared. "Double." Tristan said, putting down a card for the machine. (Pun Count: 241) Edsel explains the concept of a joystick and keyboard to Pewter, then heads back to work. Grey and Robota enter Xanth, nulling the magic shield with his power. They head to the North Village to see the Storm King, using illusion to hide that Robota is a robot. She claims to be Silica of the Mineral Elves. (Pun Count: 242) quote:"Now to be realistically female, how much here?" she asked, indicating her bosom. They take a break to nap, since they can pick back up where they left off. Pia tells Edsel that Robota is practicing feminine wiles. quote:"Yes. I think she knows better than to try them on him when he's awake; he's faithful to Ivy. But now she's pretending. She wants to be a real woman." Then they gently caress and begin the work again. Grey and Robota introduce themselves to the Storm King, but first meet Cassie, a half-centaur who can swap between human and centaur and whose talent is to be able to exit the Void. Grey is pretending his talent is prophecy. We also learn that half-mermaid half-centaur people exist, who have talents. They head on and finally reach the Storm King. Edsel wonders if it's ethical to have Grey hide his talent. quote:"That is his cover story." Tristan said. "You will understand that they can under no circumstances tell the truth, for that would lead to immediate chaos as every person sought to know his personal future, and Xanth would be changed irredeemably. Neither can they avoid identifying themselves, for that could arouse suspicion. So they must have persuasive false identities." Yadda yadda, Roland and Bianca tell Grey what happened to their son, Bink. He tells them that Bink will return, somehow. They meet with the Storm King, who refuses to help them, because his talent has faded and he won't admit it. Grey warns of a wiggle swarm, but the Storm King Aeolus refuses to believe. (Pun Count: 243) Besides, he's pretty sure a storm won't stop wiggles. Grey warns Aeolus of Trent returning. quote:"Oops," Breanna said. "If he warns the Storm King, won't the King stop the invasion, and Trent will never conquer Xanth. and all history be changed?" Aeolus gets a view of the border and decides to use his talent to prepare for the army he spots. quote:"So will you demonstrate your talent?" Robota asked, favoring him with her most winning smile, and a rather nice flash of elfin bosom. (Pun Count: 245) He only got the box a year ago, see. However, his talent remains with his soul, so he pretends to be senile so he doesn't have to use it much. He shows them a small storm, and they leave. However, Grey is suspicious and has Robota hide as they go. quote:Grey circled the North Village, bearing west and then south. There he found a small little-used path, and followed it farther south. (Pun Count: 247) Grey explains - the Storm King has no conscience, as he has no soul. quote:"And so you have no conscience. Fortunately you have not yet discovered how dastardly you could be, if you thought of it. I hope you will continue to act in a decent manner." Robota decides to study and emulate conscience so she can become more real. Grey explains that the Storm King is going to try to kill them to keep his secret, well, secret. He doesn't trust them to keep their promise. They decide to hide until the search for them dies down, since time travel means they won't miss their return window. Edsel and Pia break off and decide to fast forward. quote:"Robota spoke of seducing Grey." Pia said "He talked her out of it. But is it physically possible? I mean, she's a golem made iron metal. She doesn't even have a—a place." Grey and Robota head to Magic Dust Village and meet the leader there, Trolla. (Pun Count: 248) Grey explains that he can resist the Siren, and Robota says it's because he has selective deafness. quote:Grey considered, and concluded that he would not be changing history if he spared the men from the tree. He went to the tree alone at night and touched its trunk. When it tried to grab him. he nulled it. "You will never again molest a man following the Siren's Song," he informed it. "Otherwise I will do this." He nulled much of the trunk for a moment. ...why? quote:They followed the path through the jungle, Robota sitting on Grey's shoulder and holding on to his ear The motion of his body caused her to lean outward and inward, her bosom colliding with his ear every so often. "That's not accidental." Pia murmured professionally. "She's keeping her options open." They arrive at the beach, Grey gets attacked by the guardian battering ram (Pun Count: 249) and avoids it, so it'll still be there for Bink. quote:The ram came at them. Grey jumped nimbly to the side, and it ran right on by. Before it could brake and turn, it collided with a pineapple tree. A pineapple dropped, detonating under the ram's tail, and shrapnel flew out. The ram, reasonably battered, ran on. (Pun Count: 250) They go see the Siren. quote:The Siren heard them and turned, ceasing her playing and singing. She had hair like flowing sunshine, and a tail like flowing water. Her bare breasts were spectacular. The Siren hits on Grey, who tries to get her to understand the harm she's causing. She tells them about the Gorgon, and has no idea why the Gorgon is dangerous, either. Grey decides to go see the Gorgon and get one of the men free. quote:"I believe he wants to persuade the Gorgon not to turn every man to stone." Tristan said. "But this is chancy, because the Gorgon significantly affects Xanth history, especially after she encounters Magician Humfrey, and this must not be changed." Robota tries to get Grey to stop, but he refuses because he thinks the Gorgon and Siren are hot. quote:"In fact, I think you have been foolishly smitten by the lovely innocence of the Siren, and want to see the Gorgon in her teenage youth." Robota tries to seduce Grey to keep him from danger, but he ignores it. quote:They passed through a region of the lake where tall trees grew up through the water, forming a natural screen They rounded a turn, and something moved Grey instantly exerted his talent—and accidentally nullified the path across the water. He fell in with a splash. Robota laughed, clutching on to his hair. "Serves you right." she said. "Maybe this will shock you into some common sense." Pun Count: 250 by the end of Chapter 10.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 20:13 |
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I like how they keep dragging back the Storm King to mention how awful he is. Clearly he couldn't just, like... be a normal grumpy old man and leave it at that? Nope he dislikes Bink and that's an unforgivable sin. I bet he turns out to be Fracto. Blah blah recap of previous books sexualization of young girls blatant stupidity obligatory sexism Anthony would have written a better book if he'd just flat-out vomited onto the pages instead of going though the trouble of writing.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 20:40 |
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Well, I'm sure glad he went into how a robot or a mouse could be sexually compatible with a human. I sure would have wondered about that if he hadn't cleared it up. I'm going to, I dunno, slam my head against something until I don't remember this anymore.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 21:45 |
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quote:"The Siren is seventeen years old at this stage," Justin remarked. "She has a teenaged figure."
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 23:09 |
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So, why does all this creepy old man writing pass? I mean, yeah, I was a stupid kid back in the day, but what about all the folks who were already grown up when Spell For Chameleon came out?
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# ? May 1, 2014 06:51 |
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A lot of people, maybe even most, don't really absorb what they're reading or watching or consider it in a larger context. Some are even violently defensive of their works of choice, be it Buffy, HBO's latest cavalcade of human wretchedness, or Twilight.
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# ? May 1, 2014 12:45 |
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Speedball posted:So, why does all this creepy old man writing pass? I mean, yeah, I was a stupid kid back in the day, but what about all the folks who were already grown up when Spell For Chameleon came out? Also, while I hate to say it, it was a different time. A lot of the most popular SF/fantasy writers of past decades could be pretty lovely about women. I love Asimov, Leiber, and Vance, for instance, but they're pretty far from enlightened when it comes to writing female characters. And Xanth has acquired a hard core of fandom over the years that will buy new books, regardless of quality, just 'cause they're Xanth. As has been mentioned earlier in this thread, for all his flaws Anthony is very good to his fans, and that helps breed loyalty.
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# ? May 1, 2014 13:44 |
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Also, the internet was pretty threadbare back then so there wasn't any sort of forum -- figuratively and literally -- where you could go and actually discuss this sort of thing with other readers. Even if you were an adult reading these books, who would you even complain to about it? The police? For most readers, old or young, Xanth was just the quirky fantasy books that had a bunch of sex in them, not exactly the sort of thing that comes up in casual conversation. Child sexuality isn't even a particularly uncommon theme in fantasy or sci-fi; a lot of stories have historically skated by that sort of thing by affecting an air of "edginess" or "sophistication" by daring to portray that kind of taboo topic. Some of them even do justice by it...or, at the very least, don't do an utterly terrifying job of it. So it's tricky to pinpoint just how Anthony's work is any more egregiously horrific about this sort of thing than any other fringey fantasy series out there without the benefit of hindsight and the bulk of his work to draw from. BrianWilly fucked around with this message at 15:21 on May 1, 2014 |
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Selachian posted:Also, while I hate to say it, it was a different time. A lot of the most popular SF/fantasy writers of past decades could be pretty lovely about women. I love Asimov, Leiber, and Vance, for instance, but they're pretty far from enlightened when it comes to writing female characters. Very true. I read a lot of classic sci-fi starting from elementary school and my fair share of sword and sorcery (always preferred it to high fantasy), and while I figured out the girls and women in those books didn't seem much like real-life girls and women, I still found enjoyment in a lot of them. The thing is, I and most sane people like the older stuff despite that poo poo. Some people don't ever realize it's an issue or even think it's a good thing (I assume that because apparently there are Gor fans still). Selachian posted:And Xanth has acquired a hard core of fandom over the years that will buy new books, regardless of quality, just 'cause they're Xanth. As has been mentioned earlier in this thread, for all his flaws Anthony is very good to his fans, and that helps breed loyalty. That may well be the main reason: people who started reading this when they were younger (and to be fair, whatever issues the first couple of Xanth novels may have, they're nowhere near the jaw-dropping badness of the later ones). It took some time for Anthony to get to this level of unintentional self-parody and (fully intentional) skeeziness.
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# ? May 2, 2014 02:23 |
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It really is sad that, given the rape trial scene in the first book, that statement is still true.
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# ? May 2, 2014 02:30 |
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There are hints of it from the beginning, but I think Night Mare is the first of the really skeevy ones. The scenes with the horseman got way too rapey.
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# ? May 2, 2014 03:04 |
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While he tends to objectify women, like, a lot I seem to recall that he has a dim view of men in general too. So it's not necessarily the type of sexism where he thinks one gender is superior to another, he just has really really skewed concepts of gender interdynamics.
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# ? May 2, 2014 06:00 |
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The primary audience (pre-teen to teenage kids) is also a lot less sophisticated. One of the things that made him so enticing, as I recall, was how he explained things. When you're still growing up and starting to read "grown-up" books, a lot of stuff is still beyond you. You don't quite get how adults interact a lot of the time, you miss a lot of the stuff that isn't said in adult books that in a few years you'll take for granted. Piers Anthony not only does almost nothing beneath the surface (at least, nothing intentional), he explains at length on those same adult interactions you don't quite get yet. He's wrong, but as established, you don't have the sophistication to recognize that yet. If you're too young to know better, you just take those explanations at face value, without thinking through the implications. If you're into girls, then it's natural to think that teenaged girls are sexy because that's the right age of girl for you to be attracted to. It doesn't occur to you that it's being written by a guy who's way to goddamned old to find thirteen-year-olds sexy. I think that's the worst part of this. The kids who are most likely to miss the really horrible stuff are the ones who least need to be reading this poo poo because if they take it seriously, they'll get a really hosed up view of sex.
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# ? May 2, 2014 08:15 |
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Chapter 11 drops us with Pia. Grey has been stoned and now they're unsure what to do.quote:"For sure," Breanna said, not smiling. She looked as white as her brown face could get. "We were so concerned about him changing history, we never thought of how history could change him. What'll we tell Ivy? She'll be Poison Ivy when she hears about this, even when it's not the time of the month." Com Pewter, however, assures them that this is still workable. Grey will be fine until the Time of No Magic. We get a brief recap of the whole Time of No Magic debacle, and apparently everyone knows aobut X(A/N)th now. Pia gets back to viewing so she can see how Robota reacts. Robota makes her way back to the Magic Dust Village, no longer pretending to care about Grey, as she has no soul. Robota joins the village and studies their consciences and souled behavior. quote:Pia opened her eyes. "What I don't get is why Grey went so crazy, there toward the end. I mean, I thought he was a pretty level-headed married man." They skip ahead a year. Bink and company arrive, and Robota fucks Grundy. quote:"But isn't he married to Rapunzel?" Pia asked, disturbed. (Pun Count: 252) quote:"They certainly are celebrating." Pia said. "You're right: she does have a place, and she's getting pretty soft." Yadda yadda, Siren sings, men go, women fight tangle tree. Justin feels bad for the tree as it tries to murder all the women. Yadda yadda, more recapping of Book 2, and Robota heads for the Gorgon's isle. She warns the Gorgon about the Time of No Magic coming, and tells her that she must go to Mundanian, to avoid stoning people. She can mature there until she's ready to marry Humfrey, Robota tells her. They drop into the Time of No Magic, and Pia's vision blurs as Robota suddenly weakens. Apparently it's worse than Mundania due to the suddenness of it. However, Edsel can't reconnect, due to the lack of magic. Grey, Robota and the Gorgon decide to head for Pewter's cave, since Pewter is good at secrets. They head to the cave, where they find an inert Pewter, where they wait until the magic returns. Grey gets Pewter to make the Gorgon's face invisible. quote:"Now I will tell you the truth." Grey said. "But you must forget, and make the Gorgon forget, after we leave. I will tell you why." That's when Murphy and Vadne show up. Remember, they escaped via Pewter, too. Grey panics until Robota points out that Pewter can erase their memories. quote:"Hello." the man said. "We are two strangers in need of sustenance. May we join you?" Truly, the most touching explanation. Pewter wipes everyone's memories and resets the stage. quote:GREETINGS, INTRUDERS. I'm not sure paradox works like that. But whatever. They head out to Mundania. quote:"That's all right." Grey said. "The border interface automatically registers you as you pass through it. and at such time as any of you return, you will return to the same time in Xanth that you left. Except that it will be as much later in Xanth as the time you spend in Mundania." He did not explain about the time traveling aspect; he and Robota were a special case. They leave the Gorgon in Italy, where she decides...well, read it. quote:The Gorgon considered. Then she smoothed her skirt and inhaled. "I will pretend to be a mute girl, in need of a good man's protection. Do you think that will work?" Grey's not the brightest. quote:So he watched the changing color of the sea, and brought them to the region and time within a year of where he had been delivered, which was fourteen years after the Gorgon's time, and on another continent, where English was spoken. The stork might find it a challenge to make a delivery outside of Xanth, but history indicated that it would succeed. Because that's not paradoxical at all. Vadne and Murphy swear to name their son after Grey, because...gently caress it, because. Anthony says this technically isn't paradox. Grey and Robota return to the present. As far as anyone can tell, no history changed. Robota hands over the weather data, and Pia and Edsel are free to go. Pewter recovers his memories and Grey is cleared of all obligations. Ivy arrives, and Pia asks Robota where Ted and Monica are, since they apparently stopped by the day before. quote:"Demon Vore took them to the Fanta Sea. They love that." (Pun Count: 253) quote:"It's a pond where tolk can find their wildest dreams." We also learn that contact has been lost with the Mundane side. Oops. They head back to Humfrey's castle and recap the last chapter and a half. quote:They rode back toward the Good Magician's Castle, telling the story. It was of course Grey's story, but Edsel and Pia were able to fill in main details and reassure Ivy that he had done nothing untoward during his adventure. Ha! Spreading rumors of adultery! The party now decides to go to Mount Etamin to meet Nada Naga, since she'll know where the kids are with the locket. quote:Pia closed her eyes, feeling unpleasantly giddy. Soon they were back on solid land, to her relief, and forging along a new path. "Oh. we're coming to the Library," Breanna said enthusiastically. "I love this place." (Pun Count: 254) quote:Just inside was an ogre stamping his big hairy feet. They left little marks on the pile of cards beneath. "That's the date stamper." Breanna said. "Hi, can I have a date?" (Pun Count: 255) quote:Then there was a solid man sitting at a desk shaped like a huge tome. "Hi, Dick," Breanna said. But the man stared stolidly ahead, not deigning to answer. "That's Dick Shunary," Breanna explained "He won't speak a word to anyone, though he knows every word in the book." She did not seem annoyed. (Pun Count: 257) quote:"Let's see. there's a map in here somewhere, if we can find it." Breanna said. Para wove along different paths, searching. They came to a glade with a pattern of grass and sand, like a miniature golf course. "At last." (Pun Count: 258) quote:They followed a path to a number of warriors doing a dance of victory. "That's the Conquer Dance," Breanna said. (Pun Count: 259) quote:Beyond the dance was a dead tree. A feline snoozed in its bare branches. "Catalog." Edsel said. (Pun Count: 260) quote:They passed a tree with dampish small fruit. "Dew date." Breanna said happily. (Pun Count: 261) quote:Then there was a dolorous researcher poring over a several volume set. "Sigh Clopedia." Breanna said. (Pun Count: 262) quote:Breanna faced him. "Shut up or I'll use the card file on you." (Pun Count: 264) quote:They passed a moving picture of young women dancing and removing items of apparel. "Para!" Breanna said severely "I told you not to go by the film strip." (Pun Count: 265) quote:The boat veered, taking them by a high building. "What's this doing here in the library forest?" Pia asked. (Pun Count: 266) quote:They peered up to the thirteenth floor, where spirits flitted in and out of the windows. "Don't tell me. let me guess." Edsel said. "That's a ghost story." (Pun Count: 267) quote:"Enough!" Pia cried. "Get me out of here!" (Pun Count: 268) quote:If Pia had had a pillow, she would have whammed them with it. Fortunately the exit loomed. There was only one insubstantial plant barring their way. "Through that mist tree," Breanna told the boat. (Pun Count: 269) quote:"We found our way out because we have the indecks." Breanna said, patting the interior of the boat. (Pun Count: 270) quote:"Do you know. I once met a lady who gave nothing but opposites." Justin remarked innocently. "Her name was Anti Nym. I believe she would have felt at home at that library." (Pun Count: 271) quote:"But we don't really need the library," Breanna said. "We can see the paper view." She held up a roll of paper. (Pun Count: 272) quote:"That docs it!" Pia screamed. She jumped out of the boat, landed off-balance, and whirled into the soft side of a cow -like creature. The thing made a soft, sickly "Mooo!" (Pun Count: 274) They arrive, drawing the attention of Draco Dragon, who waves them through. They head to the naga territories, where Nada meets them with Monica. She says they left the locket in the Fanta Sea. They'll have to go get it, and get roped into babysitting Monica. It might be dangerous, as all kinds of dreams show up there - it's where dreams go if they escape the gourd. quote:"All kinds," Justin said. "It is a place where actual dreams escape from the realm of the gourd. Normally they are disciplined, organized by the gourd crews and carried by the night mares to sleepers who deserve them. But at the sea they are undisciplined, and can do what they want. Even the good dreams may not be welcome, when they have no outside controls." (Pun Count: 275) They head in. quote:Breanna looked to the side. There on the bank was a cemetery memorial stone. She shuddered. (Pun Count: 276) If two nightmares collide, however, they'll cancel each other out. They spot another. quote:Pia looked. It was a tropical tree, seemingly growing out of the water. "It's just a palm tree," she said. "No threat to me." (Pun Count: 277) It still terrifies Edsel because he's loving stupid. However, the only way to get them to collide is to get Edsel and Breanna to summon the spooks. Justin and Pia convince them to via hugs. Para lurches and gets them to collide. Monica directs them towards the locket. quote:"Oh, no." Justin breathed. (Pun Count: 279) quote:"Both." Justin repeated weakly. "It's an injection that causes folk to change shape involuntarily. I've seen it attack animals and ruin their lives. They get addicted to change, but can't handle the new forms. It's going to get me. and make me change back into a tree, or worse, right when I want so much to remain as I am." And then Pia gets her own problem. quote:Pia looked—and froze. "That's the awful cook book." (Pun Count: 280) Edsel and Breanna get them to call the horrors again, and they cancel out. Next! quote:Pia. recovering, looked. The thing did not fill her with horror, so she knew it wasn't hers. That was a kind of relief "It looks like a rug," she said, "A rolled carpet." Nothing around to cancel it, however. Is there another way? quote:"Sometimes. If there is a pun that can be changed. But there seems to be nothing funny about being smothered by a rolled carpet." (Pun Count: 281) quote:Pia was discovering, to her surprise, that she rather liked comforting the child. She had never tried it before, but holding the little girl seemed meaningful. Monica was taking comfort, though as yet they had no certainty of saving her. The carpet was unrolling, making ready for its prey "There has to be some other variant," Edsel said. "Carpet— carpal—" (Pun Count: 282) quote:"You never punned before." Edsel said, amazed. ...really? Really, you're going with that? Whatever. They get the locket. quote:"There's the magic locket," Monica said, as brightly as if she had never been scared. Children did recover from things rapidly. "On Soft." (Pun Count: 283) Pia has to hug him to get it, because his arms are painted on. They head to leave, but run into Willow. You remember Willow, right? the flying elf girl? She and Sean are married now. They are here to get the magic locket, but Pia protests they need that for their own mission. Willow says she'll give it back once she uses it to help Nimby. Pia wants to take care of CoTwo first. Willow realizes there's a fast way to do this - a woman named Pearl is nearby, and her talent is summoning magic dust. That will take her an hour, and meanwhile, the party will head to the snowy mountains. In the meantime, a new dream is showing up. quote:Pia looked. She saw a troupe of shapely nymphs dancing across the surface of the water. "Whose horror is that?" It is unknown and therefore terrifying. Edsel calls the nymphs, but Pia can't bring herself to summon the lump. quote:The boat dodged to the side, but couldn't escape the nymphs. They intercepted it and spilled onto the seats, going for Edsel. One of them tumbled head under skirt into Pia, giving her a phenomenal flash of green panties. Of course that didn't freak her out, because she was female, and because her main attention was taken by the more distant lump pursuing her. But she knew Edsel was another matter. (Pun Count: 284) quote:"But I was just about to see them do the high kick," Edsel complained. They try to outrace Pia's nightmare, and while it's slow, it never stops coming. They think they can put it in the locket, but then remember, as I'm sure Anthony did, that Willow has the locket. Justin realizes Pia has to face it - otherwise it will drive her mad. quote:Pia hoped she looked brave from a distance. It certainly wasn't the case up close. Her heart was pounding, her hands were shaking, and she knew her eyes were dilated. The only thing that stopped her from turning to run away was her certainty that it would catch her and be even worse than if she faced it. It turns out Pia jumped into a healing spring, and now has no diabetes. Also, man, Anthony literally just goes 'well guilt is black and evil BUT NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE BLACK PEOPLE ARE FINE' just in order to draw attention to how not racist he is, isn't he. Pia promises to keep the marriage going because divorce is evil and wrong to the man. Meanwhile, Monica has found a slug. quote:The child laughed. "No, not a real slug. A fake slug. That pretends to be a coin or something. See. it takes any shape I want." She held up a tiny dark disk. In her hand it shaped itself into a thimble, then a star. (Pun Count: ...285?) They make it to the snowy mountains, but Willow's late. They accidentally mention CoTwo, summoning him. Pia uses her body to distract him. quote:"Well, well. Aren’t you the shapely one. What are you up to. sensual creature?" He lifted his finger from the boat, and it scooted away. But then he aimed a blast of air at it, and boat and remaining occupants tumbled headlong into the river. Willow arrives overhead. quote:All she had to do was stall a little more. Pia forced a sexy smile. "No, I'm sure the reality will be much better. You're quite a figure of a creature-" Edsel jumps in, holding the magic locket. He tells CoTwo his plans. quote:"I am going to put you inside this magic locket," Edsel said evenly. "Just as soon as I get you into its range " Edsel proves himself real by knowing he won Pia in a bet. Willow takes the locket. quote:"For sure," Edsel said. "But I'd better adjust it first." He bent and lifted the locket from where it had fallen, and used his fingernail to pry off the front panel. And then Edsel and Pia make out. Pun Count: 285 by the end of Chapter 11.
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# ? May 7, 2014 21:42 |
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It took me months but I finally finished reading through this thread. Every one of the last ~5 books blend together into an offensively bland sludge of creepiness, they don't even have distinguishable plots. People meet, go through interminable shoehorned puns, then fall in love. If it wasn't for all the irrelevant crap thrown in you could just read the first and last page and be done with it. Why do you hate yourself so much, Mors Rattus?
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# ? May 14, 2014 19:48 |
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Decoy Badger posted:It took me months but I finally finished reading through this thread. Every one of the last ~5 books blend together into an offensively bland sludge of creepiness, they don't even have distinguishable plots. People meet, go through interminable shoehorned puns, then fall in love. If it wasn't for all the irrelevant crap thrown in you could just read the first and last page and be done with it. Why do you hate yourself so much, Mors Rattus? I am working off my karmic debt. Also, working to develop an immunity to awfulness. Chapter 12 puts us back with Chlorine. The party has decided to stop camping so they can find a computer. quote:"Let me make sure I have this straight," Kim said. "All you need is to connect with Ed and Pia via the Modemode. and switch back, and then it will all be over?" However, as long as he's in Edsel's body, Earth will be trying to kill him. They head back to their vehicles, but Dug's car battery is dead. A neighboring car's passengers get out and lend jumper cables, but it's no good. quote:"I think you have a worse problem," the man said. "Better call Triple B." (Pun Count: 286) They debate splitting up while Dug waits for the pickup to come, but Nimby thinks Earth is trying to separate them, so they should stick together. They then debate calling a taxi, but decide Earth would have anticipated that. quote:Nimby agreed. So Dug went to call Triple B, while Nimby sat in the dead car and focused his ambient Awareness on No Name Key, where a person from Xanth would most likely pass through to Mundania with magic dust. If any of the Modemode folk got through to the real folk in Xanth. The Baldwins will be going to Ed and Pia's home. quote:"So that's where we should be going, as soon as we can." Kim said. The tow truck comes and they stop at a diner for a while to wait for repairs. They can't just go on the internet and win - Ed and Pia must be present on the O-Xone to make the exchange back. To do that, they have to report back to Com Passion. They leave and decide to travel closer to the Baldwins. However, a storm is rising by the time the car is ready. Nimby insists on driving the Lemon still. It turns out the car had a unique fluke wiring failure. The storm sends a tree branch falling at them. Kim and Dug get to clearing that while Nimby runs distraction. quote:Nimby lifted one hand, reaching behind his shoulder. Chlorine realized he wanted to talk more specifically. She touched his hand with hers. Chlorine drives for a bit. Lightning strikes nearby, blinding and deafening her. She keeps going, but notices the bike slowing down. It must be veering. Her ears start to recover, and she notices that it sounds wetter to the left, which is where the bike is trying to drag. She fights to go straight, and her vision starts to return. She gets back on the road and accelerates, veering back and forth to be a harder target. Nimby returns shortly after and takes over. quote:She was concerned how to change places again, as reversing her moves would be tricky. But he simply moved up. and she lifted to sit in his lap. his arms going around her to take over the handlebars. He had control now, and knew where he was going. They stop and approach the farm. quote:She marched up to the farmhouse door and knocked. It opened after a moment, revealing a mature woman. "Girl, you're soaking!" the woman exclaimed. "Come in and get dry." Me, I'd just go for 'she's nuts.' The son convinces the farmer to make the deal before the bones get washed away. Nimby and John go off to get the bones. quote:Soon there was the sound of the returning motorcycle, and John entered. "It's true. Dad. It's a dinosaur for sure, and we'd have missed it. We'll need to shore it up, to keep it from washing into the river. Thing could be worth thousands. We'll find out when this freak storm ends and I can call my paleontology prof at college. But it sure as hell is something. Also, that's a Lemon he's riding; only good folk have those. Give them the tackle." They start to head back, and the storm gets worse. quote:Nimby seemed unconcerned. He gunned the motor, following the road at high speed. Chlorine hardly dared look, for fear she would see disaster looming. She reminded herself that Nimby was not the mute dragon or man-form he seemed, but the Demon X(A/N)th, one of the overwhelmingly powerful figures of the cosmos. The fact that he lacked most of his power here did not mean that his intellect was diminished; he knew what he was doing, and where things were. He had surveyed the whole area, during his time of introspection, and now had a virtual map of it in his mind. Now that he lacked most of his magic, she was able to see the power of his other qualities, such as his Awareness and his learning ability. If she hadn't loved him already, she would have been falling in love with him now. She was nothing, owing everything to him, but he was such a superior creature. The storm gets even worse, with more and more trees falling. Nimby goes offroad. quote:The tackle tried to dislodge; she felt it shift as they whipped around a turn. She reached back with one hand to take hold of it. Nimby was getting them where they needed to go; she had to see that they got there with their payload. Eventually they get back to Dug and Kim, but it turns out they cleared the road already. This entire tackle thing was entirely pointless filler. The storm, it seems has been focusing entirely on Nimby, moving where he goes and leaving everywhere else untouched. They load the tackle into the car and get going again. With the tackle in their possession, Earth has stopped knocking over trees, since it won't work. They stop at a motel for a few hours of sleep, at Nimby's order. Nimby, meanwhile, drives off. quote:They took a motel room and turned on the TV while taking turns showering and cleaning up and changing to dry clothing. Chlorine saw the ongoing news and was appalled. It showed scenes of devastation. A freak storm had laid waste the region, and the Chat-A-Hoot-Cheese River and its tributaries were flooding. One of the Hooded rivers crossed their route south. The bridges were closed. (Pun Count: 288) quote:Kim emerged from the shower, wrapped in a towel. She was a lanky girl, but self assured. "Look at that!" she exclaimed as the TV picture showed a bridge getting washed away. "Where is this disaster?" They realize the tree was just to delay them until the bridges flooded. They get some food and gas, then sleep. quote:"It's an irony," Dug remarked from the other bed. "We Companions are supposed to keep Nimby out of mischief in this unfamiliar land. Instead he's keeping us out of mischief." (Pun Count: 289) quote:She closed her eyes, imagining Nimby's performance. And thought she felt his answering nudge. Probably imagination, because of his lack of magic here. But maybe he was tuning in on her, and shared her vision and feeling. She wished they could signal the stork and have it deliver, but of course that would never happen unless Nimby wanted it. He had given her so much, she was ashamed even to think of wanting more. Of being a normal family, with all the joys and travails of raising children. They take a side trail, finding a bridge, but the road is flooded on the approach. quote:She got off and went to the car, which had stopped with its tires deep in standing water. "The road goes through, and crosses the river. Thereafter it’s mostly high ground. If we cross here Dearth won’t he able to flood us out later. But it will stop your motor. Turn it off. We'll make a winch. It will be slow, but can be done." The air dries out, and it starts to get hot. Smoke starts to rise, and fires start spontaneously. quote:Nimby touched her hand. "Volcanic activity?" she asked, amazed. "Are there volcanoes here?" They pull over. Nimby has to ride in the car so he can use his awareness, while Dug handles the bike. Chlorine joins Nimby in the car. quote:Suddenly she was sharing his Awareness. She saw the Land of Mundania extending as her perception rose from the car, like a bird flymg upward. The trees, houses, roads, lakes, and fields spread out in the manner of an unfolding map. There were tiny cars on the roads, moving in various directions. She realized with a start that this was not a picture, this was reality. This was what was happening in this region of Mundania right now. (Pun Count: 290) They have the locket, too. quote:Magic dust! She had for the moment forgotten. That was what Nimby needed to have some power of magic in Mundania. His body in Xanth was the source of all magic, but here he was Mundane. Until he got that dust. Sean and Willow were bringing it to him, but had been stalled by the flooded rivers. They could not get across. Chlorine reports what she saw, and they decide to keep going. Nimby wakes up after a bit and stops them, telling them to turn left and stop at a motel. The motel sign says no vacancies, but there was an unexpected cancellation. quote:They drove to the front office. Kim got out and went in. She emerged moments later with a look of vague awe. "They thought they had no vacancies, but then they got a cancellation, so we got it." Dug and Kim get pizza and they watch TV. Nimby sleeps very deeply the entire time. They get breakfast, and Nimby suggests they just relax now and visit the local library. quote:Kim glanced at him, but refrained from making a sharp comment. "Well, it will pass the time, I suppose." As if they had too much time on their hands. Chlorine shared their gathering depression. Were they just supposed to dawdle here, waiting for the end? Midrange drops in through the window, with the locket on his collar. quote:She carried the cat into the main section of the library and set him down beside Nimby. Nimby reached out to Midrange's collar. There was a chain with a locket. Nimby took the locket in his hand, without removing it from the cat. He touched Chlorine's hand, and she felt a thrill of power. It was the magic dust within the locket; Nimby was drawing on it without even having to open the locket. Something in her body changed. In fact she felt three pulses of change. Yadda yadda, Midrange had the locket and Nimby guided him. Earth ignored the cat. quote:Nimby touched hands with Edsel, and Chlorine touched Pia. Her orientation changed, now she was looking the opposite way. Pun Count: 290 by the end of Xone of Contention.
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# ? May 14, 2014 20:33 |
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Wait til Pia discovers she isn't diabetic any more when she gives herself her usual dose of insulin and dies! What a great way to find out! And just when she's been forcibly converted to a Proper Wifely Stereotype, too! On the other hand, once Demon Earth notices the Xanth-dust in Ed's motorcycle, he may view it as an invasion by Xanth and take care of these horrible people once and for all. Oh, right, no one in Xanth books ever really dies. Drat.
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# ? May 15, 2014 15:58 |
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quote:"Then I hope you are pleased with the gifts for they have already been given," Chlorine said. "First, your body has been restored to its form at age sixteen, as it seems was your wish in Xanth, and will be easier to maintain that way." So Pia keeps her sixteen-year-old body, and gets knocked up in addition? Have fun explaining that one to the doctors ... and the cops.
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# ? May 4, 2024 00:53 |
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I like how a woman says "No, I don't want a child." and the objection is completely and utterly ignored.
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