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Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

Sudo Echo posted:

Did you have to do anything with the electrics besides replace the battery?

The electronics so far have been untouched.
It's absolutely amazing that lucas electronics are functional.
Fixed the vacuum leak. Much better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDypI90bwU

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mafoose
Oct 30, 2006

volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and vulvas and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dongs and volvos and dons and volvos and dogs and volvos and cats and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs and volvos and dogs
That sounds awesome!

Looks to be in fairly good shape! Congrats on getting it going!
It needs a header and a nice exhaust, as I bet the I6 sounds orgasmic!

Citycop
Apr 11, 2005

Greetings, Rainbow Dash.

I will now sing for you a song that I hope will ease your performance anxiety.
I think it's time to sell it. I mean how much more money will you get compared to the amount of work that is going to be needed to get it up to good condition from this point? A runs and drives XKE has to be worth quite a bit.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Citycop posted:

I think it's time to sell it. I mean how much more money will you get compared to the amount of work that is going to be needed to get it up to good condition from this point? A runs and drives XKE has to be worth quite a bit.

I don't know about selling it, but I kinda cringe thinking this thing is in for a full restore -- how many XK-Es EXIST in original condition, much less run? They are only original once.

I'm actually amazed OP has gotten this far in this short of a time, a testament to fine British production and electrics?

INCHI DICKARI
Aug 23, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
One thing I didn't notice is have you popped open the distributor to look? My Volvo ran when bought and ithad been stored relatively decently but drivability and idle increased dramatically when I took the distributor apart and cleaned out the years of gunk in there and put fresh grease on the lobes.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:

One thing I didn't notice is have you popped open the distributor to look? My Volvo ran when bought and ithad been stored relatively decently but drivability and idle increased dramatically when I took the distributor apart and cleaned out the years of gunk in there and put fresh grease on the lobes.

Yes. Originally the points weren't breaking. A little sandpaper fixed that right up.

Speedometer hasn't been working, but gauge functions per drill test.
Found out the right angle adapter has a rubber seal that had completely disintegrated, and that holds the gears to properly mesh. This $1 seal was causing the speedo to not work. Part has been ordered.

A big part of how it's running is carb tuning. Haven't completely dialed it in, so far just getting it in decent running order, fine tuning can come later.

Way2slow fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Sep 12, 2013

Veeb0rg
Jul 24, 2001

THIS CONVERSATION IS NONPRODUCTIVE!
Saw this while searching the local Craigslist and figured you might be interested. Not my ad nor do I know if he'll ship but..

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/pts/3996951580.html

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
I am so jealous right now - it's unreal. :( Looking at the dash and the engine running made me realize that you found something incredible. I know the "smart" thing to do is flip it for a ton of cash, but don't do it. Fix it up, drive it around, pull into Sunday night car shows and win by default. This is a once-in-a-lifetime car at a once-in-a-million-years price.

Live the dream, man.

Octopus Magic
Dec 19, 2003

I HATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU LIKE* AND I NEED TO BE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I POST

*unless it's a DSM in which case we cool ^_^
Car sounds awesome and you've done right. Are you going to wash that dirt/dust off some time soon? :)

Kotaru
Jan 17, 2004

"Serve the Hive.....
Feel the groove.
I control....
the way you move."

Ripoff posted:

I am so jealous right now - it's unreal. :( Looking at the dash and the engine running made me realize that you found something incredible. I know the "smart" thing to do is flip it for a ton of cash, but don't do it. Fix it up, drive it around, pull into Sunday night car shows and win by default. This is a once-in-a-lifetime car at a once-in-a-million-years price.

Live the dream, man.

I agree, you don't need to go all 100% out on a restro since that would simply be madness. Clean it up and make it derivable so you can turn it into a weekend toy.

"Hey dear, shall we take the JAAGGGGG this weekend?"

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Awfully sorry, but would you mind settling the check while I go out and warm up the JJJJAAAAGGGGG?

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Awfully sorry, but would you mind settling the check while I go out and warm up the JJJJAAAAGGGGG?

It's "cheque", you uncouth American :colbert:

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

You Am I posted:

It's "cheque", you uncouth American :colbert:

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

His million bucks is like the $2500 you paid for your Jaaaaaaaaag. It went way further than you'd expect.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

Kotaru posted:

I agree, you don't need to go all 100% out on a restro since that would simply be madness. Clean it up and make it derivable so you can turn it into a weekend toy.

"Hey dear, shall we take the JAAGGGGG this weekend?"

At the very least, the top must be re-done/replaced, and the paint must be re-done. I will not allow what little rust there is to spread. Crush out cancer when you can. Also, there is a slight dent on the passenger side on the bonnet (not hood, it's British!).
I'll probably replace the radio as well, as they make radios that drop in, look classic, and have modern functionality. Of course, the brakes must have stainless cylinders placed in, just for the safety of myself and the vehicle.
I think I'll hold off on rebuilding the engine, simply because it isn't necessary at this point- worst case is replace the head gaskets, but so far, after idling for 10 minutes, it didn't overheat, so I think that's a good sign.

So far, including all I need to get it running (brakes etc) my total into it is just under $5K, not including price of the car. I think I'm making out like a bandit thus far.

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
Don't forget that while you own a JAAAAAAGGGGG, you won't have to pay for anything.

So really, it pays for itself in no time at all.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Way2slow posted:

At the very least, the top must be re-done/replaced, and the paint must be re-done. I will not allow what little rust there is to spread. Crush out cancer when you can. Also, there is a slight dent on the passenger side on the bonnet (not hood, it's British!).
Find a real restoration specialist for that stuff. The old paint may be able to be worked a bit and spot repairs blended without repainting the whole thing... check around the Jag community and get some ideas. Even with the dent, that can probably be fixed too (yeah, the paint may be cracked a bit, but it may be able to be 75% fixed... but keep everything original that you can!)

quote:

So far, including all I need to get it running (brakes etc) my total into it is just under $5K, not including price of the car. I think I'm making out like a bandit thus far.

That is a significant understatement.

Citycop
Apr 11, 2005

Greetings, Rainbow Dash.

I will now sing for you a song that I hope will ease your performance anxiety.

Octopus Magic posted:

Car sounds awesome and you've done right. Are you going to wash that dirt/dust off some time soon? :)

This reminded me of the AMMO NYC vids on youtube. The guy shows you how to restore paint on expensive cars.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYsa8SOy3TkoxI5D17s1u-w

Citycop fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Sep 13, 2013

revmoo
May 25, 2006

#basta
That dude's channel is great. I would buy cable tv if it had shows like that on it.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Has the car been painted already? That'd be the deciding factor for me. If it was original paint I'd try really hard to restore it rather than repaint it. If it's been done once already then there's nothing to lose. When I was shopping I actually wanted a repainted vintage car so I didn't have to worry about keeping it original.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

LloydDobler posted:

Has the car been painted already? That'd be the deciding factor for me. If it was original paint I'd try really hard to restore it rather than repaint it. If it's been done once already then there's nothing to lose. When I was shopping I actually wanted a repainted vintage car so I didn't have to worry about keeping it original.

According to the PO/OO (Original owner, I'm the 2nd owner of this vehicle), it was 100% original. Of course, I found a few errors in that statement- their mechanic they took it to had replaced a few coolant hoses that likely had failed with newer pieces that removed coupler tubes from the system.

However, that's likely little things they didn't know about because the mechanic did it to fix something. The paint wouldn't be replaced in that manner.

bend it like baked ham
Feb 16, 2009

Fries.
This and the Citroen DS are the coolest cars ever made.

Every picture I've ever seen of one of these makes it look like the car is 50% hood. Is it like that in person, or is it just that the pictures are always shot from an angle? Can you snap a pic from behind the wheel?

Are these Jaaags any good to drive? It's been funny watching Top Gear over the last few years as they drive old classics. Usually there will be a bit that starts with, "If I'm honest", and goes on to list the car's glaring faults (by modern standards).

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot

You Am I posted:

It's "cheque", you uncouth American :colbert:

Awfully sorry, I can't hear you inside my JJJAAGGGG. :wotwot:

Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

Local Resident posted:

This and the Citroen DS are the coolest cars ever made.

Every picture I've ever seen of one of these makes it look like the car is 50% hood. Is it like that in person, or is it just that the pictures are always shot from an angle? Can you snap a pic from behind the wheel?

Are these Jaaags any good to drive? It's been funny watching Top Gear over the last few years as they drive old classics. Usually there will be a bit that starts with, "If I'm honest", and goes on to list the car's glaring faults (by modern standards).

Most classic cars do involve saying to yourself "Ok, so by any possible metric apart from coolness and fun this is a terrible car, but those two factors make up for it a thousand times over."

I can't understand why people form these classic car clubs for terrible droning adenoidal men who wear bomber jackets with their cars logo on and talk about keeping it out of the rain or the sun or the cold or anything. For a really good car like this then yes, common sense care of it is good, but for something like an MG, which was built for people who couldn't afford a Jaaaaag but wanted to drive like a hoon with exactly 1 (one) young lady and very little luggage, the train spotter crew really make me worried sometimes that people will associate me with them just because I drive the same car.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!

Local Resident posted:

This and the Citroen DS are the coolest cars ever made.

Every picture I've ever seen of one of these makes it look like the car is 50% hood. Is it like that in person, or is it just that the pictures are always shot from an angle? Can you snap a pic from behind the wheel?

Are these Jaaags any good to drive? It's been funny watching Top Gear over the last few years as they drive old classics. Usually there will be a bit that starts with, "If I'm honest", and goes on to list the car's glaring faults (by modern standards).

I have no idea how they are to drive. I've heard they're fun, but I have no idea, as it doesn't drive yet.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.
If you are the second owner and the paint is all original, you would be doing the car a disservice to respray it just because you needed to patch a couple places.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe
I know a guy out in palm springs thats competent with bodywork. Not exactly the cheapest, but his work is worth it.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005
I may be wrong but I'd think that any real self respecting bodywork place would be going all out on patching it perfectly. Great for the portfolio / advertising.

Way2slow
Sep 14, 2007

Not a Miata!
The paint is cracking pretty much all over. I don't know if some kind of magic can fix that or not.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

On the subject of original paint and wanky owners clubs, I was once passed at approx 100mph by a mk2 jag painted in gloss and matte checks, driven by a bloke who must have been eighty. I imagine he didn't give a poo poo what the owners club thought.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Chiming in to say I wouldn't repaint it. Just repair and try 'paint match' the areas with rust as best as you can/as best as an old school painter and panel beater can do, even if it costs the same as a respray for that little bit of work. Seriously.
New paint is poo poo unless a pro did it, and they don't charge any less than $10k, anything less would be worse than what it has, and even a top job would be "well, it's not original or baked, so it's a waste of money".
Do no paint that car, not yet at least.

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....
It's like the reading comprehension level goes out the window once there is a cool car, the paint is SEVERELY damaged.

OP - awesome and amazing car. Bummer the paint isn't salvageable, but do what you have to! Hoping we can get some more pics and progress soon!

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

ssjonizuka posted:

It's like the reading comprehension level goes out the window once there is a cool car, the paint is SEVERELY damaged.

And we have ssjonizuka's judgement.

OP never said the paint wasn't salvageable, he just said it was cracked all over. With that particular car, it would be worth investigating restoration options (depending on the type of paint, it may even be able to be reflowed -- it would be extremely expensive and need a master to do it, but for that car, it would be worth it).

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....

meatpimp posted:

And we have ssjonizuka's judgement.

OP never said the paint wasn't salvageable, he just said it was cracked all over. With that particular car, it would be worth investigating restoration options (depending on the type of paint, it may even be able to be reflowed -- it would be extremely expensive and need a master to do it, but for that car, it would be worth it).

Awwww, you even bolded and put a pretty color on my name. I feel loved :blush: :gbsmith:

Though I never claimed to be a body expert - cracked paint on multiple surfaces basically boils down to sanding the entire car down - maybe not to bare metal, but probably close enough that it's irrelevant as he'll likely need to add more base coats on top to ensure good coverage, no?

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

ssjonizuka posted:

Awwww, you even bolded and put a pretty color on my name. I feel loved :blush: :gbsmith:


No he didn't. Unless you're using the Awful app, which does that automatically by default whenever you're mentioned (and you've never been mentioned before).

Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

Cakefool posted:

On the subject of original paint and wanky owners clubs, I was once passed at approx 100mph by a mk2 jag painted in gloss and matte checks, driven by a bloke who must have been eighty. I imagine he didn't give a poo poo what the owners club thought.

I want to keep my MG until that age, and put in a stupid motor and paint it like a ned's trainer, then take it to an owner's club meeting.

Beverly Cleavage
Jun 22, 2004

I am a pretty pretty princess, watch me do my pretty princess dance....

Geirskogul posted:

No he didn't. Unless you're using the Awful app, which does that automatically by default whenever you're mentioned (and you've never been mentioned before).

Welp, I'm an idiot. I got too used to how SALR worked on firefox and switched to chrome - which seemingly is a whole different animal and has some subtle differences. And here I thought I was just being treated special by meatpimp. I guess I was, just not how I expected. :v:

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
I'm really glad you posted, and continue to post in this thread with your comments.

madattheinternet
May 8, 2004

PLEASE STOP! PLEASE!
Are you considering swapping some of the more finicky bits with modern, but visually "stock" replacement parts? I know that the fuel injection era cemented the image of all jags being bad, but reliability was always an issue. While you obviously hope to keep it original as the day it rolled off the lorry, will you try to exorcise some of the demons to keep it as reliable as possible?

I only ask because I'm facing down the barrel of an early-80s Alfa Romeo shaped shotgun that has no visual or multi-meter confirmed issues yet still refuses to start consistently and decides to stop running randomly. And this is a car with a Bosch FI system that I'm VERY familiar with coming from a BMW background... it just seems like the car itself is determined to piss me off and build up my calf muscles.

madattheinternet fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Sep 17, 2013

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Citycop
Apr 11, 2005

Greetings, Rainbow Dash.

I will now sing for you a song that I hope will ease your performance anxiety.
Just like you would not swap out any bits on the Mona Lisa for something more modern, this car is a time capsule and a tarnished representation of what it was on it's best day, when it was original and brand new. What makes the car great is not how well it works, but how well it represents what it was on that first day. If you don't get that then you would probably be better off buying a brand new modern Jag instead of this increasingly irreplaceable antique.

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