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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Die Laughing posted:

Brevoort mentioned that Runaways is a tough sell since the original concept has pretty much run it's course. It's going to take a special writer/story to get editorial to greenlight another Runaways series. Kind of like Young Avengers, it's better to let the characters simmer on the back burner than to run with a series that may damage the brand.

A series that may damage the brand like the series all the characters are in right now? Or Children's Crusade?

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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



SiKboy posted:

To be honest, I think the greatest strength of runaways as a potential movie pitch when it was written is something of a minus side now; They are super powered characters in the marvel universe who have no particular link with the wider marvel universe. That would have worked for them pre-iron man, but now that marvel films is a thing rather than simply licensing out bits and pieces, the runaways dont have a hook to tie in to guardians of the galaxy/avengers 2/whatever the next big ensemble piece they want to do. If I had to guess, we might see a runaways movie when they are running low on things that actually tie together (basically when they have made "The Defenders" or "West Coast Avengers" or "Excalibur" and it hasnt done the same business as avengers 6) if they decide to try some less continuity heavy movies. Or if they have to recast several of the headline superheroes at the same time I could see the runaways being put out as a stop gap while they work out who is going to take over as (whoever retires first).

I always thought the runaways would make a decent movie (or a really great TV miniseries) because they have a good story arc with a definate ending. Which is also incidently why I like to pretend that no-one except vaughan ever tried to write the comic because everyone else kind of stunk up the joint. Plus with how heavily involved Whedon has been in marvels movies in general I would be concerned about the quality of a runaways movie with him anywhere near it (not a knock on his marvel films so much as dear god his runaways writing was dreadful).

If the Netflix Defenders stuff does well I wouldn't be shocked to see Runaways in a possible Phase 2 of that kind of thing.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



The public for 5 years thing doesn't work anymore, because Year Zero in Batman takes place "five years ago."

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Teenage Fansub posted:

and that was a flash forward.

Then when the story proper starts it's five months before that. And he clearly does not have and is not going to have a Robin during that five months, so instead of 4 Robin's in 5 years it's, at the most, 4 robins in 6. And is only established for a year when the JL gets together.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I thought that was because Simone made a fuss about it to get hits on her blog?

"Uppity women are only pointing out examples of horrible poo poo in comics as an example of social injustice to get attention."- The man who will not shut the gently caress up about how great Red Hood & The Woman With Her Tits Out is.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Madkal posted:

Look at this guy liking comics I don't like.

Nah, that's totally fine. It's his thing about constantly defending it every time someone goes "why did they make Starfire into a one dimensional cheese cake character?" that makes it weird. If you want to discuss this, though, it's already happening in the DC death watch thread.

Also yeah, Simone is a bad comic book writer, but that doesn't mean she was wrong about the whole fridging thing. Yes it's just one example but it's a good short hand for it that is popular.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



bobkatt013 posted:

Her Deadpool and Agent X was pretty good.

I haven't read these so I can't speak to them, I've really only read her DC work which I was not a fan of. Although I don't think any of it is bad enough to warrant a spot in this thread. It just kind of...exists.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Madkal posted:

I really really liked her Secret Six comics. I find though that she has a certain voice that goes well with less than lovable characters, and she doesn't really know how to change it up. I have heard from people (outside these forums) that her Batgirl was good but it never really hooked me.

I tried to get into her Secret Six run but couldn't do it. That might have been more to the fact that I didn't care about a lot of the characters in it to begin with, however. I dropped her New 52 Batgirl after the first few issues because I just found it boring.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



SALT CURES HAM posted:

The Dark Knight is a thinly veiled defense of the Patriot Act, and The Dark Knight Rises is gently caress Poor People: The Movie.

Goyer had nothing to do with Rises. But the Nolan brothers are also mega conservatives, so...

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



chime_on posted:

Story by Christopher Nolan, David S. Goyer.

It doesn't take much to get a story credit, and by all accounts from the people who actually worked on it he was hardly involved other than some brain storming sessions at the very start of production. He was busy writing Man of Steel for most of it. The script itself was written by the Nolan brothers, and was never touched by Goyer.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



OldMemes posted:

Actually, I've been researching this recently - there's a few academic papers on the war on terror symbolism in The Dark Knight.

Batman says that spying is bad, knowingly risks his friendship with Fox over it, and it still doesn't bring him closure. Even after he's used it to find the Joker, he still has his emotional truama and pain. The machine might have saved lives, but it didn't really help in the long run.

People realize that in The Dark Knight Rises, Bane was only pretending to be a socialist hero of the people right? It was all an act to stop the population from resisting his invasion - he always planned to oppress and destroy them, he just pretended to be a far left revolutionary to secure Gotham.

Yes, I think most people are aware that Dark Knight Rises was showing the Occupy movement as being a bunch of horrible people led by a person who really just wanted to destroy the real common folks via lies and deceit via it's version of Bane.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Vincent posted:

Bane was a Republican?

No, Bane was what republicans seem to genuinely think things like the Occupy movement is. A bunch of radicals who want to do nothing but blow up society because they are evil, and are deluding the young people who join the movement into thinking it's for a better world.

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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Stink Terios posted:

Speaking of Sonic Comics, Ken Penders once did a pitch for a Sonic Movie. It's... You know, just watch. And weep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc2-fUf8wBs

Is this up anywhere else? Panders had it pulled.

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