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Sep 11, 2001

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E the Shaggy posted:

I...kind of think this is metal as gently caress.

Ron Lim drew the best shiny space people. :allears:

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Sep 11, 2001

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Madkal posted:

I never read it myself but I heard Spiderman: Sins of the Father by JMS is something special too. Something about Gwen Stacy having kids with Osbourne and other insanity.

This is what Norman Osborn looks like when he's really happy.

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Sep 11, 2001

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The Question IRL posted:

Okay, it's definitely a bit out of character for Wolverine to say it, but I'd have to see it in context to get a better idea. Like I could see Wolverine saying something like this, just to be the voice of opposition to an idea, since Wolverine does that all the time. And despite what that article says, I never saw Wolverine as an atheist. Oh sure, he's a cynic and may be down on organized religion, but the man has lived long enough that he would have to pick up some form of spirituality. (If nothing else then from his time spent in Japan.)
I think the best quote to sum up Wolverine would be from Pitch Black

"Got it all wrong, Holy Man. I absolutely believe in God....And I hate the fucker."

Wolverine's not an atheist, because he wasn't able to resist Weapon XVI. Noh-Varr and Fantomex had to save the day.

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Sep 11, 2001

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WickedHate posted:

Which, as Victor pointed out, is a bit weird since they know Victor entire purpose is to betray the Avengers. You'd think they'd at least check him out, do some diagnostics or something at all to make sure he doesn't have any secret programs in him.

I'm pretty sure they've missed secret programs in both Jocasta and the Vision; it's probably simpler for them to take it as expected that everything will go wrong eventually.

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Sep 11, 2001

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Random Stranger posted:

And yet he gets stuck with a lot of short, weak runs. For pointing out terrible runs there was the period in the sixties where they tried to superhero him up by giving him a face mask and secret identity (this will be important later). That was followed by a crazy period where people were trying to tell an epic story with him but the writers changed every single issue. Englehart was cool but he was kicked off the book right after Dr. Strange's wife screwed Benjamin Franklin (I did not make that up). There was the heavy metal Dr. Strange period in the mid-eighties where he was using black magic and turning evil. But the worst for me was when they decided to 90's him up and go the XTREME route.

I actually liked both Englehart and the black magic Dr. Strange. :blush:

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Sep 11, 2001

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Random Stranger posted:

Englehart is one of the best runs, but I just wanted to mention the weird ending.

That whole storyline started because it was the Bicentennial in the US, and Doc wanted to show Clea some American history. (And it wound up with Doc witnessing the destruction and re-creation of the universe. :allears:)

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Sep 11, 2001

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Random Stranger posted:

Just one year after he witnessed the destruction and re-creation of the universe! He can't seem to keep the universe in one piece.

Did I get the order of things wrong or did I forget one time that happened? I'm thinking of Sise-Neg.

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Sep 11, 2001

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E the Shaggy posted:

Cue Bendis. The Hood is now running a giant gang of super criminals and is killing/maiming/feeding people to wolves(!), getting power ups from Loki/Dormammu/ and even the INFINITY GAUNTLET (which he is smart enough to steal from the Illuminati).

I still can't believe that an Inhuman who knew about Black Bolt's secret hiding place would wind up in an Earth prison with the Hood.

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Sep 11, 2001

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Suben posted:

Did it get good writing because I couldn't even make it through the first arc. It was trying to be some kind of superhero slice of life thing except nothing about it was entertaining or interesting enough to make that concept work.

All I know is that this comes from Young Avengers, so I need to read it.

CapnAndy posted:

Young Avengers 004. Noh-Varr is your new favorite character now:





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Sep 11, 2001

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Metal Loaf posted:

I've heard that Byrne wanted to retcon Magneto's past as a Holocaust survivor to spite Claremont when he was writing X-Men: The Hidden Years.

There is some value in spiting Claremont. :)

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Sep 11, 2001

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Metal Loaf posted:

Or have him say, "Oh, good grief, no!" when he learns his girlfriend is actually his sister in disguise, rather than, "Oh boy!"

Sorry, but the correct Nightcrawler response is "Unglaubich!" :colbert:

Alternative acceptable response: "Gott in himmel!" ("im himmel"?)

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Sep 11, 2001

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

It's almost hard to believe it's Millar, nobody's getting raped, acting like a misogynist or sexist or racist or anything.


Are we sure Grant Morrison didn't write it?

What was the first thing Millar actually wrote all by himself? Ultimates 2?

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Sep 11, 2001

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muscles like this? posted:

I think the part that annoyed me the most out of all that stupid poo poo was giving Chase the Darkhawk amulet.

I thought Darkhawk couldn't get rid of the amulet if he tried? How did they get it off of him?

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Sep 11, 2001

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Parahexavoctal posted:

Incidentally, did any writer ever explain why McCoy doesn't just... shave?

His whole body? :eyepop:

Although he is pretty flexible...



On second thought, Hank's blue, furry form has also included some physical changes, hasn't it? He's not just a furry guy; he's more beastlike.

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Sep 11, 2001

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HorseRenoir posted:

I guess what I'm saying is gently caress Bendis and his plodding, nonsensical, over-indulgent X-Men run. Aaron can be seriously hit or miss but the Bendis books have really made me grow to appreciate his stuff a lot more.

I feel terrible saying this but neener-neener now you know what it was like to be an Avengers fan during Bendis's run. :D

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Sep 11, 2001

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Gaz-L posted:

Wait, I've never heard this before. There was serious consideration given to it being Kyla Rayner? And why in God's name would DC find that objectionable?

I bet I can outline the thought process:
  • Boys read more comics than girls
  • Boys want male heroes to read about
  • Books about female heroes don't sell as well

(I'm not saying this is a good thought process, but it's probably what was used.)

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Sep 11, 2001

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redbackground posted:

Well, I think it was more that they were nowhere near as great at Y1. Y2 is a pretty strange beast (major art changes notwithstanding) in a lot of ways, but it's worth reading at least once. I have literally never talked to anyone or have seen any discussion about Y3, ever.


edit: McFarlane's Batman cape--check that baby out:



McFarlane would have been the ideal artist for Cloak and Dagger, since Cloak's cloak was a creeping, shifting, hungry force of literal darkness.

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Sep 11, 2001

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SALT CURES HAM posted:

I mean, on one hand it is kinda self-indulgent, but on the other hand my understanding is that they (along with the rest of Image) pretty much opened the indie-comic floodgates and without them we probably wouldn't have stuff like Saga, Stray Bullets, Fatale, or Manhattan Projects. If that's the case, I can't really hate them for championing that cause.

Wernher von Braun was a Nazi, but without him, we might never have gotten to the moon.

More seriously, I've read that you're supposed to judge artists by their best work, so I'm okay with giving Sim a lot of credit for his work and even with McFarlane for his arms-and-legs-all-over-the-place Spider-Man art. It really did feel different and acrobatic in a way that hadn't been there before.

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Sep 11, 2001

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rkajdi posted:

It's odd because I'm also not much of a Waid man, but love Busiek. Avengers Forever does need to die in a fire somewhere, though-- not one sentence of it was required, and the easiest solution to the mess of The Crossing is just give it the Ms Marvel pregnancy treatment. Stick it in a corner and never mention it again. That series is the kind of thing that this thread should be about, because it has all the earmarks of being a cool story with a good writer, art team, and set of villains. Yet it fails at drat near every turn to not be a rap up of every dumb story you never cared about from the 70s.

I love Avengers Forever, and I love me some good continuity porn. :colbert:

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Sep 11, 2001

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SALT CURES HAM posted:

Honestly it kinda sounds like they're both good writers when they can bounce ideas off other people (and when Goyer can keep his rear end in a top hat "LIBRULS KILLING AMERICA!!!!!! :freep:" tendencies to a minimum) but fall apart on their own.

I'm worried about Abnett and Lanning. I hope they don't suck now that they're split up. :ohdear:

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