Waterhaul posted:There's also the time where he threw a strop because he had Mary Jane break her arm and then forgot about it the next issue. People called him out on it and rather than owning up to his mistake he wrote this scene into Amazing 529 a few issues later. That really doesn't scream "poo poo writer" so much as "has a sense of humor" to me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZoCMk74KcI
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Gavok posted:There's also the annoying Venom-eats-Carnage story. Venom breaks into the Vault, kills some guards and beats up Carnage. He eats the symbiote to make himself more powerful. On Venom's side, all he does is beat up Spider-Man and not kill him because "Wait, Carnage is trying to fight its way out! I'll be back later!" After that, his supposed power boost is never mentioned again. Cletus Kasady is still alive and when Mackie feels the need to bring him back as Carnage, he has him simply find a new, red symbiote in the Negative Zone. Don't forget that Venom was able to easily take out a huge detachment of armored guards with sonic weapons who are specifically trained to stop Carnage from breaking out.
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Jerusalem posted:That sure was a beautiful scene between Peter and that hired actress. The way they brought her back was dog poo poo, but I think it was a good move, if Peter was gonna be Spider-man again. Also I think the whole "I knew all along" thing was dumb, simply for all the grief Peter had to go through keeping his identity a secret from her. Makes her look like an rear end in a top hat.
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I'll take that challenge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZh_xg22Qk
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laz0rbeak posted:And as bad as the Invisible Woman costume was during that period, at least there was an in-story explanation. She was being controlled by the Malice entity from the Byrne era, and was becoming more reckless and crazy. That makes it much worse, actually. Pointless out of character titillation is one thing, but to explicitly tie overt female sexuality with EVIL INFLUENCE is... well, it's textbook Byrne all right. And that ain't a compliment.
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Waterhaul posted:The Gauntlet/Grim Hunt is a good 30+ issue run, with one real misstep. That poo poo was merely ok.
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Aug 13, 2013 12:26
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It was violently canceled when its not-usually-comic-reading fanbase revolted against the art change from the soft-edged realism to loving Ramos. Turns out that regular folk actually notice when you completely change the aesthetic of the product they consume.
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Billy Idle posted:I never got the hate for his run. I didn't like it as much as what came before, but it didn't strike me as terrible or anything. It had an abused puritan child bride character that Whedon made a permanent cast member. Wowee! Loads of fun in that storytelling angle! And this was after teasing adding an actually interesting, fun character to the cast, which turned out to be a fakeout. There's loads of other problems but I can't come at that loving terrible character from any angle that's positive or enjoyable for anyone.
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muscles like this? posted:Frankly I never really liked the whole "Dark Reign" direction in the first place. Mostly because the whole bit with Osborn's rise to power never made any amount of sense. Well you know, he was made provisionary director of the Thunderbolts under heavy surveillance because of that time Tony decided to... mind control him into shooting an atlantean guy... for no reason. And in that position, he shot someone in an all-out war with people dying all over the place. So the president put him in charge of literally everything in the entire world. To the point that he had the power and ressources to disband and rebuild SHIELD. Never mind that when he was initially mind-controlled by Tony, he was in a Hannibal Lecter jail for his crimes as the Green Goblin.
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bobkatt013 posted:Speaking of Young Avengers. The first 12 issues and special are pretty good. However, due to the writers other commitments he was unable to continue the title and it left the characters in limbo. So last year out came Avengers: The Children's Crusade. The story made no sense what so ever and completly destroyed some characters. It had delays and everything about it was pointless and awful. If you liked the original Young Avengers, just skip to Kieron Gillien's relaunch. All you need to know is that Cass died.  I think maybe Young Vision died too? He's not in the new book anyway.
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Suben posted:Did it get good writing because I couldn't even make it through the first arc. It was trying to be some kind of superhero slice of life thing except nothing about it was entertaining or interesting enough to make that concept work. I thought it was great.  Also it really isn't slice of life so much as insane adventures.
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bobkatt013 posted:Runaways had three writers. Their was Vaughan which was great, Whendon which was okay, and Moore which I heard was terrible. Whedon was garbage, the art completely carried his lovely run.
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It's especially bad since Way's run came on the heels of Cable and Deadpool, which built up a gigantic supporting cast for Deadpool(while admittedly shoving Blind Al and Weasel pretty far into the background), a group of people who genuinely trust, like, respect and understand Wade. And then BOOM he's just an anti-social guy who has no friends again. A good writer might have used the "Wade sided with the Skrulls" thing to explain away the supporting cast, but Way seemed to seriously just forget they existed. And the very few times characters from his past did show up, Deadpool just treated them like poo poo or they hated him for reasons unexplained.
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fatherboxx posted:Supreme Power: Nighthawk by Way and Dillon was really good and, in retrospect, the best part of that whole affair. The hell it was. It was by far the weakest link and turned me off the Supreme Power books since it was the first thing I read in that setting. Only later did I find out that the main comics actually had something to say worth reading about (and art that wasn't Dillon).
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Gavok posted:I don't think they were trying to appease JMS, since that shitfest Ultimate Power took place after the big Supreme Power cliffhanger. I had completely blocked that garbage out. It might count as a Worst Run of the Squadron Supreme concept in general.
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Jeez. Add some modern movie references and a lot of swears and blood and that's pretty much anything he's ever written in the past decade.
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I'm not trying to insinuate poo poo about John Byrne, but:
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Wasn't there an article with a letters page asking why this had been retconned, and the Marvel editors said 'this is disgusting, so we retconned it?' I can't remember where I saw it, but it was one of those times I agreed wholeheartedly. Yeah, that was in the letter pages of a recent FF or F4 comic, and Fraction was like "Yo, gently caress this creepy poo poo".
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Nov 11, 2013 23:20
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Jerusalem posted:They killed the sweet little kid with the giant pet sentinel? The issue of Avengers Academy about that Sentinel almost giving his life to stop crazy Phoenix Emma Frost from hurting Juston (but it turns out Quicksilver saved the Sentinel's CPU  ) almost brought me to tears. And then he died in a lovely book.
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Nov 26, 2013 18:41
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Ennis isn't exactly known for his cyberpunk writing. If anything, he'd make cyborg get rid of all his computer poo poo because that garbage is for NERDS and real men use guts, knives and guns from the 1970s and nothing else.
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought Ellis has said poo poo about superheroes before as he did things like Ruins. Ellis keeps saying he hates superheroes and only writes them because he's a high class whore for money, while other writers love Spider-man's cock. It feels kinda like he just says that to maintain some kind of outsider cred, though, because he certainly puts in a lot of sincere work in his high class hookerism. E: His words (paraphrased) not mine, so no one thinks I'd use the phrase "loves Spider-man's cock" to describe writers. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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I'm not going to check but didn't Nightcrawler used to creep on Kitty when she was still underage and he wasn't?
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John Byrne is responsible for at least some of that, and he definitely has a problem with women, or at the very least his work does. The rest is mostly just "being written in the 1960s". If it helps contextualize, Stan Lee was trying to be progressive by having "gender war" stuff in the era of "women's lib". Some characters were old-fashioned, others were trying to express the idea that women are equal to men. He just didn't do a very good job of it, so it tends to look like the men are horrible sexists and that he endorses it. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jan 14, 2014 |
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Exiles would be a really good home for an alternate version of Spock that never gets de-octopus'd. He could be the de facto terrible leader and everything while the teenagers completely ignore him and call him a dork. It writes itself, really.
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Trast posted:Holy gently caress what did I just read. There's a loving reason it tends to be kept in its designated quarantine zone from the rest of the Marvel universe.
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Metal Loaf posted:I'd say a lot of the worst stuff in the Mackie run actually comes after Byrne left and JRJR returned to the book. The most frustrating plot was probably the Senator Ward story arc. The sad part is that JRJR makes some of the stupidest scenes Mackie wrote look rad as hell, and it's probably some of his best work ever. I especially liked how he drew Venom.  Whoever was on inks and colors also did a bang-up job throughout. What a loving waste of great art.
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Senor Candle posted:Posters like Montezuma's Revenge: Defending the Fridge. Yeah, what the hell, why so invested in defending one of the most iconically egregious things to ever happen in a comic book?
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Chinaman7000 posted:I'm not saying the use of women as motivational sacrifices isn't an issue but I can't believe someone could honestly say "I read Berserk but THIS just upset me to hear it!". That's BS, the whole reason the fridge thing is a problem is because it happened in a relatively tame superhero comic. Nobody would be bitching about a woman in a fridge in a horror movie, but hey, it turns out that context matters, and having something like this happen to Green Lantern like it's no big deal to put such brutal, misogynistic and callous imagery in a mainstream superhero comic is notable in its awfulness. Sure, it's almost tame compared to Dr. Light, super-rapist, but that's just because DC never loving learned.
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bobkatt013 posted:I still think that the death was uncalled for and mysoginistic, but it still has nothing on Ms. Marvel. Hey, you won't see me defend THAT mess.
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Onmi posted:Yes there is. And there's a point where it turned back too. I appreciate the efforts of the newer writers who tried to salvage the Sonic comic and fix what's horrible about it while keeping its continuity, but I'm reminded of a Tolkien story about dwarves trying to reclaim a fortress where the dragon Thorog wiped out many dwarves, and finding it to be too tainted by the evil that had been done there to be salvageable.
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I have an inexplicably large amount of old Mario comics, and they were exactly what you'd expect a weird licensed cash-in comic to be: utter nonsense that doesn't take itself seriously and is dangerously stuffed with puns. Kinda like the Mario Bros. Super Show, really. Insane people never had the same fixation for Mario as they did Sonic, so they didn't sell well enough to grow into a grim and dark out of control monstrosity that shames the Nintendo brand. Having said that, the Nintendo Power ones were genuinely charming. 
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Waterhaul posted:Nintendo's current plan of well just being Nintendo is to license out their brands more so it's not as much of a pipe dream as you'd expect. I don't have a problem with that.   
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Metal Loaf posted:I think it's because Sonic had the SatAM cartoon; you still get Sonic fans sperging incessantly over how "dark" and "mature" and "adult" said cartoon about a blue hedgehog who runs and fights a man shaped liked an egg is, whereas there's never been a Mario cartoon like that. Not a cartoon, no. 
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It was intensely mediocre, but not awful. His Thor run, though...
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I've only read excerpts from the book so far, but considering he's stated some rumors and discredited things as fact, I'd advise anyone reading it to take it with the same heaping of salt as you would, say, a football player's "auto" biography.
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That's a bit of a stretch, especially in a film about a self-appointed vigilante who breaks about 200 laws every day.
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Say Nothing posted:I think Gotham's problems were probably due to the fact that they couldn't convict anyone who Batman caught. Harvey Dent figured out a great solution for that!  Whatever happened to the guy, anyway?
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So like most people, I have immense respect for Bruce Timm and Paul Dini for their contributions to the DC animated universe and cartoons in general, and they both wrote/drew some amazing comics in their time. The modern interpretation of Batman might owe more to them than to anyone else, really. Having said that, I recently got my hands on the Harley and Ivy mini-series they did some years back, and now I'm kind of glad they had to work around censors most of the time.  Jesus christ, fellas. This isn't exactly what I signed up for when I bought this.
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Alhazred posted:Who the gently caress buys a comic about Harley and Ivy made by Dini not expecting fan fic? Most people? I definitely wasn't expecting tentacle porn, at least. I wasn't too surprised to see some cheesecake, but this is just ridiculous and kind of embarrassing to own.
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