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Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!


Hahahahaha

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trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
This is very unsettling.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

lmao they lost to a loving amateur side

Vexin
Jan 13, 2014

straight up brolic posted:

lmao they lost to a loving amateur side

These ultra's who took time out of their busy and satisfying lives to contribute to the beautification of historic Torino are probably really pissed.



(I'm almost 100% positive that the "ZENIT!" graffiti I saw a few blocks away was done by this Drughi Master, but my training in post XVIth century scripts is pretty weak, I confess.)


Gigi Galli posted:

That "RUDE" graffiti has been there since the 90's, I love it. Did you manage to get inside or look over the walls?

Now, now, Unione is a Lega Pro squad; they just don't let any random middle-aged woman wander out onto their pitch.* Thank God I visited some town with a dilettanti squad--their pitch was much more accessible:


If I was actually as smart as I think I am I'd stop writing academic papers and write an historical thriller about some sort of crime syndicate that operates out of these tunnels and make myself a lot of money.


The Sienese Franchi is across the street from the place where the buses deposit all the people coming from Florence (and a few morons who were trying to get to San Gimignano and can't read and/or listen to the personnel at the Autostazione SITA) but you don't notice it because it's in a little dip and surrounded by all these trees.






*Actually, my travel plans got messed up (transit strike!) and I wasn't able to get to the Penzo until the evening (this is also why all I saw of Vicenza on this trip was the train station, alas). The guy who was washing the sidewalk outside the church was really apologetic.

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
Nice pics! Sorry you missed Vicenza :(

If anyone was wondering, I will be making a new thread some time this week. Current thread title is "Thread posted: ultras said ok". Any thoughts?

advanced statsman
Dec 26, 2012

ISLAM FC
"Allegri mi rende triste"

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Gigi Galli posted:

Nice pics! Sorry you missed Vicenza :(

If anyone was wondering, I will be making a new thread some time this week. Current thread title is "Thread posted: ultras said ok". Any thoughts?
wasn't there a really good title suggestion a while back? lemme do a search real quick

e: can't find it, that's as good as any

straight up brolic fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 25, 2014

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Gigi Galli posted:

Nice pics! Sorry you missed Vicenza :(

If anyone was wondering, I will be making a new thread some time this week. Current thread title is "Thread posted: ultras said ok". Any thoughts?

That's good, though I still prefer "Terrone Pride".

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe

quote:

There are growing calls for Carlo Tavecchio to step down as candidate for the FIGC Presidency after a racist gaffe.

The current President of the LND (amateur league) is widely expected to win the election in the Italian Federation on August 11.

He has the backing of the LND, Lega Pro, Serie B and all but two Serie A clubs – Juventus and Roma.

However, the 71-year-old caused controversy with his comments on the lack of a work permit system for importing players from overseas.

“In England they identify the players coming in and, if they are professional, they are allowed to play.

“Instead, here we say that any old Opti Pobà can come here, before he was eating bananas, now he’s playing in the Lazio first XI.

“In England the players have to prove their curriculum and pedigree first.”

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

lmao, of course, of course. He wont step down, and also everyone will continue to vote for him.

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
I wonder what Roma and Juve's objections are. I couldn't find anything in English.

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

trem_two posted:

I wonder what Roma and Juve's objections are. I couldn't find anything in English.

The other candidate is Demetrio Albertini, it might be that they just like him more.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




trem_two posted:

I wonder what Roma and Juve's objections are. I couldn't find anything in English.

I was reading that Palotta, Agnelli and (surprisingly) Babs Berlusconi were wanting a younger, more "new ideas" guy to head the FIGC than the racist, while Preziosi was pushing hard-core for the older guy.

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




Furthermore, now that I'm at an actual computer and not subject to a tablet that has an autocorrect that only Soulex could love, here's some of Albertini's ideas that so pleased Babs/Jim/Agnelli:
--Reducing Serie A to 18 clubs, B to 20 and a 60-team Lega Pro A (presumably split into 4 groups of 15)
--Capping Serie A squad sizes at 25, of which 10 should be local
--More money put into Coverciano

Link to a big interview (in Italian) he did with GdS: http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/23-07-2014/rivoluzione-albertini-serie-a-18-squadre-piu-spazio-vivai-801331072976.shtml

Cippalippus
Mar 31, 2007

Out for a ride, chillin out w/ a couple of friends. Going to be back for dinner
Tavecchio is an idiot and he's being insulted by everyone, even people that usually have no word in football related issues like politicians and entrepreneurs.
Turns out that Agnelli was right about not wanting him.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Tomorrow the calendar is drawn for 2014/2015. The rules if you are interested:

- Last 4 matches every team has to alternate playing at home and away
- Can't have two consecutive matches home more than twice in the year

- Teams considered to be local derbies and as such, never playing at home concurrently:

CHIEVO-HELLAS VERONA
GENOA-SAMPDORIA
INTER-MILAN
JUVENTUS-TORINO
LAZIO-ROMA
PARMA-SASSUOLO

- Derbies for this year will be played in the home stadium of the team that played away the first derby last year

Then some special rules due to ultras saying no, presumably (or TV rights):

- Matches between Inter-Juventus-Milan-Napoli-Roma, nor the Genoa/Milan/Rome/Turin and Verona derbies can be on non-weekend matches
- Derbies cannot be played in the first nor the last match of the season
- there are no seeded teams, any team can encounter any other team on any match day, with the exception for derbies as above
- you can't have the same match in the same matchday as last year (no Genoa-Fiorentina in the second matchday, for example)
- on the first match day you cannot have the above also extended to 2012-2013 (so Fiorentina can't encounter Catania or Udinese on the first match, again for example)
- same for the last match (no Pescara or Torino for Fiorentina, then, on the last match)
- Champions League teams cannot be matched with Europa League teams in the matchdays between a thursday EL matchday and a UCL match (5th, 8th, 12th and 16th matchday)

E: Also the problem with Tavecchio (who controls LND, the amateur leagues) is that with his buddy buddy Macalli (who controls the Lega Pro, the old C1 and C2) they control like 51% of the votes. You can't beat em.

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Jul 27, 2014

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
Tavecchio is a known rear end in a top hat but he did manage to turn the Serie D around from a faltering mess in to a league that turns a profit. Unfortunately the last thing I want is to be more business-like, I mean look what that's done to Milan.

Albertini has his problems too, and also so did Abete. There's no real candidate that I really like.

Also, C1 and C2 are being restructured this year anyway, there was no relegation from C1 to C2 last year and the whole thing is now 60 teams in 3 groups of 20.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Fiorentina just officially retracted their support for Tavecchio (tho they should have not given it in the first place, but I'll take it), Sampdoria followed. Gonna be an interesting summer :D

Troy Queef
Jan 12, 2013




canepazzo posted:

Fiorentina just officially retracted their support for Tavecchio (tho they should have not given it in the first place, but I'll take it), Sampdoria followed. Gonna be an interesting summer :D

So now this means that Albertini has the support of Berlusconi, Palotta, the Della Valles, Agnelli, and Garrone, while Tavecchio still has Preziosi and (no surprise here) Lotito backing him (I don't know what AdL has said on this matter).

Like you said, this should be fun.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Troy Queef posted:

So now this means that Albertini has the support of Berlusconi, Palotta, the Della Valles, Agnelli, and Garrone, while Tavecchio still has Preziosi and (no surprise here) Lotito backing him (I don't know what AdL has said on this matter).

Like you said, this should be fun.

Milan is still officially with Tavecchio, per Galliani, even tho Barbara was supporting "a young candidate", so bit confusing there. Sampdoria is owned by Ferrero now, former porn-movie producer and owner of some multiplexes in Rome, but otherwise yeah, they're against him now.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Romulo bought by Hellas is now being sold to Juventus.

What the gently caress Fiorentina?

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Soulex posted:

Romulo bought by Hellas is now being sold to Juventus.

What the gently caress Fiorentina?

He's...not that good. He did probably his best ever season in Verona, like Toni, but meh, glad we got some money for him.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

It was more. Of a why skip the middle man and make more? I think they only paid like 2m and he's going to be sold to Juve for around 7m.

I'm confused on what they've been doing tbh. Not trading Alonso for money + Diakite was odd, and I still have no idea how Basanta is. Hopefully he's the answer to the back three.

Also Super Mullet is out for a while with injury.

I can't loving wait. Rossi, Valero, Gomez, Cuadrado, Vargas. PHWOAR!

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



He had a clause after his loan, Verona could get him all for 3.5 million, which they did.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Oh...well poo poo

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



The stadium project that Pallotta has presented to the Roma administration is shady as poo poo and thus been blocked by the mayor - in the presentation, the Roma delegate Zanzi mentioned how it would be the team's property, but in the proposal it specifically says that it will be controlled by a society owned by Pallotta but independently from the team, and that Roma will have the exclusive use of it, though they'd have to pay rent.

So nothing at all like Juventus Stadium and definitely not a source of income, but rather just a new structure with same or even higher expenses.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

is that the "colosseum proposal" one? the renderings were nice.

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

canepazzo posted:

The stadium project that Pallotta has presented to the Roma administration is shady as poo poo and thus been blocked by the mayor - in the presentation, the Roma delegate Zanzi mentioned how it would be the team's property, but in the proposal it specifically says that it will be controlled by a society owned by Pallotta but independently from the team, and that Roma will have the exclusive use of it, though they'd have to pay rent.

So nothing at all like Juventus Stadium and definitely not a source of income, but rather just a new structure with same or even higher expenses.

Holy poo poo, were they just super duper lazy on how they tried to hide that? Does Roma still have a chance at a new stadium given that being found out? I cannot imagine it's going over well....

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

the good ol' days :qq:

you forget how good pastore was now that he doesn't have the ball as much at PSG and got fat and poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpRLPP2Fs6w

this is one of the best skill compilations ever lol

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

canepazzo posted:

The stadium project that Pallotta has presented to the Roma administration is shady as poo poo and thus been blocked by the mayor - in the presentation, the Roma delegate Zanzi mentioned how it would be the team's property, but in the proposal it specifically says that it will be controlled by a society owned by Pallotta but independently from the team, and that Roma will have the exclusive use of it, though they'd have to pay rent.

So nothing at all like Juventus Stadium and definitely not a source of income, but rather just a new structure with same or even higher expenses.

That is some loving garbage and makes me angry that they even tried this. I thought Pallotta was gonna be good for this team but if this is what he's trying to pull then he's starting to look a lot like the Glazers or Hicks and Gillete. Good on the city of Roma for blocking it.

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire
Never thought I'd say this but Im glad Abbiati signed a new contract, Agazzi has turned from someone who I thought was on the edge of an international cap to one of the worst keepers I've ever seen. I know it's still friendly season but loving hell.

Vexin
Jan 13, 2014

GG, I should just assume that today's match increased your desire for something really, truly awful to happen to Mexès, correct?

canepazzo posted:

The stadium project that Pallotta has presented to the Roma administration is shady as poo poo and thus been blocked by the mayor - in the presentation, the Roma delegate Zanzi mentioned how it would be the team's property, but in the proposal it specifically says that it will be controlled by a society owned by Pallotta but independently from the team, and that Roma will have the exclusive use of it, though they'd have to pay rent.

Over the past couple of months I've read a few "Rome's mayor won't take the bullshit anymore"-type stories and I just sort of rolled my eyes, but maybe this is an indicator that he actually won't.

Or maybe, as Robviously suggested, this was just so lazy and stupid that it couldn't be allowed to stand.

calcio
May 7, 2007

No Totti No party

Gigi Galli posted:

That is some loving garbage and makes me angry that they even tried this. I thought Pallotta was gonna be good for this team but if this is what he's trying to pull then he's starting to look a lot like the Glazers or Hicks and Gillete. Good on the city of Roma for blocking it.
Are you honestly surprised. American owners are probably even worse than the Oil barons.

Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

calcio posted:

Are you honestly surprised. American owners are probably even worse than the Oil barons.

I am! I really thought that he was honestly interested in the club and was going to follow the example of the only club in the country that's managed to do well for itself in the past 3 years or so, but instead its gone the predictable way of dodgy companies, webs of agencies and non existent buying groups, and I guess outright lies at this point. It's really really disappointing.

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



There is the possibility that they don't initially put the stadium under Roma ownership to work around the huge expense, so that it doesn't weigh on their budget, to then sell it for a symbolic amount once ready (like one dollar) but the city has for now stopped any progress until this is clarified.

In other news, there's been some nervousness in the last few days in Napoli's training, with Callejon being sent to the showers yesterday by Rafa for not working properly / not concentrated, Behrami stomping off to showers in the following session, and Insigne refusing to talk and being booed off the stage in a Napoli event a couple days ago.

ADL, as usual, diplomatically tried to clear up the air and bring back the harmony "Callejon and Behrami? They're angry cause I don't sell them"

Robviously
Aug 21, 2010

Genius. Billionaire. Playboy. Philanthropist.

Great to see 3/4th of the top of the league turning into more of a dumpster fire this close to the start of the season. :bang:

I'm glad that Roma's mayor isn't gonna let the city get steamrolled in the deal. Juve gave a lot of teams a near perfect example of what to do in regards to stadium construction, if nothing else. I really do hope Roma fans are furious because I'm furious for them. It's completely inexcusable to try to pull that kind of poo poo. It sounds like they tried to straight up lie about what was in the contract and I can't picture the kind of balls you would have to try that. Any more deals attempted that way and we'll be counting days until Francis starts excommunicating teams.

ADL is the only gem right now cause I can listen to and laugh at his team, and my brother's frustrations with them, all day long. :allears:

Slaapaav
Mar 3, 2006

by Azathoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BigKhAu5Xg
kaka scores for sao paulo :(

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Galliani confirmed Milan's support for Tavecchio, as well as ADL for Napoli and Zamp. Cesena and Empoli crossed the line and joined the dissidents, as did Sampdoria. This will still not matter anyway as Tavecchio is gonna win unless he steps down, as explained above he controls together with Macalli and Beretta a huge majority of votes; however just for information, there's currently 6 clubs opposing Tavecchio (and since Albertini is the only other candidate, supporting him) versus 14 serie A teams, Serie B, Lega Pro and CND. So about 80% of votes are in Tavecchio's camp.

RE: Roma stadium, Pannes, who's the right hand of Pallotta, "clarified" the property issue; there's 2 groups, both reporting to Pallotta. One of these groups owns A.S. Roma and is basically the team's board, the other is a financing group that owns a smaller share of Roma, and which will be owning the stadium. When asked what happens if one of these 2 groups gets sold but not the other, he dismissed it as "extremely unlikely" to happen.

The reason of this change of plans is that Unicredit, the bank that owns a majority of the shares, called themselves out from the stadium project.

Still very unclear to me.

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jul 28, 2014

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



First matchday:

ROMA FIORENTINA
Chievo Juventus
MILAN LAZIO
Torino Inter

Milan is not lucky, they got Parma - Milan on second and Milan - Juventus on third.

canepazzo fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Jul 28, 2014

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Gigi Galli
Sep 19, 2003

and then the car turned in to fire

canepazzo posted:

First matchday:

ROMA FIORENTINA
Chievo Juventus
MILAN LAZIO
Torino Inter

On the third - Milan Juventus

Phwoar, we get to play Juve during Allegri Warm Up Time when he's still the manager!!!

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