TheMightyCheese posted:

Another possibility for the OP is Risk of Rain, which is a platformer roguelike-like based around surviving on an alien planet while everything tries to kill you.

The central idea of the game is that time equals difficulty, and so the longer you survive, the harder it gets, so you have to balance between rushing to the next level or sticking around to try to find items while more and more monsters pop up to try to murder and eat you. It's got a sufficiently merciless normal difficulty, as well as a hardcore mode that can be pretty brutal, and of course the usual permadeath.

Besides that, it's a class-based game where each class (six so far out of a planned ten) has four abilities. You level up, but that's just automatic stat increases, and your real boosts in power are from the huge number of items (many of the items and classes will need to be unlocked in the final release, but in the beta it's mostly just available so it can be tested immediately) that you buy from chests or gamble on from shrines or get from bosses when you kill them. One of the best decisions the devs made, in my opinion, was to make every item have a very clear and distinct effect, usually with a visual indicator to go along with it, so that you're not finding something and going "oh it's just a little damage boost", it's "aw yeah my shots all explode for extra damage now" or "I leave a trail of fire everywhere I go" et cetera.

The game had a pretty successful kickstarter campaign, and currently it's still in beta (which is paid, and more expensive than just preordering with no beta access), getting updates every couple of weeks, usually with a bugfix a day or two after each content update, and the devs have been very open about everything on the forums as they work on it. It was originally slated for release in August, but that got pushed back when the devs decided to include online multiplayer as well as the already planned local co-op, which basically involved redoing a lot of the code from the ground up. More features are still in the works, and the actual ending of the game isn't in yet, so you just loop through the levels for as long as you can survive currently, but the game already plays very well even in its current state.

andrew smash posted:

Tome is full tiles now, i think there might be an ascii tileset you can pick but that's it. Also tome levels are boring as poo poo IMO, it's a really strong game mechanics-wise but the world is soooooo dead.

S.T.C.A. posted:

That's true, I was thinking about that when I posted. Despite Crawl having no overworld, there's all kinds of neat little events that outshine the vaults of ToME. Like there are vaults in Crawl too, but there's also neat little altars, random events, thematic rooms, thematic rooms special to thematic floors, etc. Even though you're going through a relatively linear dungeon, it eventually starts to feel like the main D1-D27 is the overworld with all the branches being different locations.

doctorfrog posted:

Yahtzee is making a Cthulhuesque "Survival Horror Roguelike."

http://fullyramblomatic-yahtzee.blogspot.com/2013/11/thy-shadow-consumed.html

I stopped watching his videos some time ago because I realized that witty videos weren't super big things in my life, but I'm interested in seeing how this goes.

Harminoff posted:

Herosiege is out. Tried it on my tablet but runs really slow. Think I might pick it up on PC though
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=182280302

Naar posted:

Are Claustrophobia or Hero Siege any good? I can't seem to find much in the way of reviews.

BobMcFartsens posted:

Speaking of FTL, a free expansion was just put out last week! It is very very good.

Adds a bunch of new weapons, encounters, a bunch of new ship varients, a new race, ship and two new sectors!

Did I mention it's free with the base game?

Probably my new favorite RL.

omeg posted:

Thing is, you rarely are in a situation where you just lose. Long-time strategy that prepares you for some incoming bullshit is as important as ship-to-ship combat tactics. You can just die in the early sectors, but if you die near the end chances are you just didn't prepare well or made wrong choices.

Pladdicus posted:

I think FTL is a lot less chaotic and rng based then people like to admit. There's a lot of ways to mitigate risk and still be able to win by the end of the run, there's so many decisions an possibilities it feels chaotic, but I think it's still quite controllable.

omeg posted:

How is learning outcomes of FTL events different from learning what various enemies/encounters can do in Crawl/ADOM/whatever?

IronicDongz posted:

But that's exactly what makes it so interesting! I absolutely hate grinding with no limit, it just leads to unfun gameplay. The 'timer' of the rebel fleet forces you to make meaningful decisions about where to go and when on each starmap, and adds a fuckton of tension to the overarching strategy of constructing your build to clear the final boss with. If there was no final challenging boss it'd be piss-easy.

Unormal posted:

You never need to run your drives at max the whole fight, only when shots are incoming, so you can always bounce the power between your drive and O2.

madjackmcmad posted:

German Joey posted:

oh my loving god

German Joey posted:

Yes, a list so insane and convoluted that it consists of a single line: if the game plays and feels similar enough to the game "Rogue" then it is in the "Roguelike" genre, if it does not then it is not.

Callick posted:

I don't really read this thread but I just wanted to (hopefully) echo the sentiment that Crypt of the Necrodancer loving owns.

maketakunai posted:

What's different about the Soundtrack version? I ask because the base game has all the stage music in the game folder as .oggs (and the shopkeeper voices under streaming_music if you want to overlap the two in Audacity or something, they fit together perfectly), albeit untagged. Is it higher quality or something?

doctorfrog posted:

I want to believe it's an amazing game, but the video just looks like a "pedal backwards while holding fire" type of experience. I've got Tower of Guns, I'm good with random shooters for the time being.

Everyone here seems to get different things out of roguelikes, and what I'd like to see in an FPS roguelike is that good item/environment/etc interaction, like rooms and zombies in flames in Brogue, or falling down stairs in Nethack because you're overburdened. Then turning to stone because your wielded cockatrice corpse touched you. It doesn't need to be that wacky, but it should be something other than poison/flame/splash damage being the height of item interaction in FPS.

There's time yet, the visuals look wonderful, who knows how gameplay will shape up?

icantfindaname posted:

Yeah trying to make a Doom-esque roguelike FPS is the most baffling thing, because literally the thing that makes Doom a great game is the level design. Having an computer poo poo out levels at random completely destroys its appeal.

And BTW I think the statement above works almost as well if you remove the "FPS". Basically the game that defined what roguelike is was Nethack, but in my opinion the defining characteristics of that game had very little to do with the randomization and more to do with the meticulousness and clever thinking required during play. It's almost an adventure game in certain ways. Unfortunately it's borderline unplayable because of difficulty and the 'clever thinking' is just way, way, way too obtuse, but I don't think I've seen a single one of this wave of roguelike games that tries to take that and fix it or make it works opposed to just acting like procedural level generation were the second coming of Christ. Brogue comes pretty close. Maybe that's the tabletop/D&D aspects of Nethack and the original roguelikes? In any case I just don't really feel like procedural generation is all that useful in game design.

Jenx posted:

Oh hey, lots of posts in the Roguelike thread, maybe someone has shared some interesting new....oh wait.

As it often happens on the Internet, I have to just sit here and wonder - is Turtlicious just taking the piss, or is he really that stupid and uninformed?

TOOT BOOT posted:

I always miss the Sproggiwood keys by like 20 minutes.

Untimely Brigand posted:

Showing a little love here for Vagante.

Cost: $14.99 on Steam Early Access, free demo on the Vagante website.
Genre: Hybrid Platformer-Roguelike
Graphics: "Dark" pixel art.
Platform: Windows (Mac and Linux "coming soon")
Multiplayer: Local, 4 players.
Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8bamfbDHUw


Vagante feels like what I wanted to play as soon as Spelunky came out. It has the same brutal gameplay as the latter, but is also knee-deep in rpg features. There are three starting classes that I've seen so far: knight (melee), rogue (ranged), and mage (spellcasting). You aren't limited by your starting class, however; I played as a knight who read a couple spellbooks and had a pretty sweet longbow as a ranged weapon--of course, after getting the longbow, I was knocked off a platform into a bed of spikes. There is some permanent progression; as you unlock secret achievements, you unlock starting traits, of which you can select one at character selection.

You start the game with one affinity point, which you can assign to level up certain traits. A mage, for example, can put a point into "Potion Knowledge" which identifies all potions by default. That affinity can be leveled up to Chemical Transmutation, which allows you to combine two potions to make a new one. It looks like you can level up and gain more affinity points, but I haven't survived long enough to do so.

There is also plenty of itemization--outside of the standard +'s and -'s to stats, there are also some gameplay-enhancing abilities that items can have, like wall-grabbing, water breathing, mana regen, etc. A lot of staple roguelike scrolls (magic mapping, teleportation, etc.) and potions (poison, healing, strength, etc.) can also be found.

Overall, it's pretty fun. You should check out the demo if you're interested.

Turtlicious posted:

Yo unormal I have like 30 steambux let me buy CoQ on steam plz

madjackmcmad posted:

An immutable law of customer interactions, which is also why there will never be auto explore or click to move in Dungeonmans. It's never enough. I'd end up with reviews like "I can't believe the auto-pathing 'algorithim' prioritized picking up the two handed hammer before the two handed sword when my play history has shown a clear preference for edged weapons. 1/10 No-Buy, here's a link to the torrent."

Wafflecopper posted:

This sounds really cool. Sucks to be the first guy who dies though, if you're doing permadeath.

Poison Mushroom posted:

I'm working on Version 1.03 right now, doing a major overhaul of the tables, and normalizing the difficulty somewhat, as well as improving the formatting of the rules pages. Once that's done, and I've let the ideas get tested a fair bit more, 1.04 will probably mostly be class rebalancing, and then I'll likely put new updates on the backburner for a while. I have some other ideas for similar games that have been coalescing since I started S'xsyde, and I wanna give those a shake, too.

Awesome! posted:

my favorites from that list: isaac, teleglitch, crypt, ftl, hero siege, dead ninjas, risk of rain, spelunky, tome. yea i like tome deal with it

some of the others are ok too

Unormal posted:

FTL is the goddamn bomb and anyone who says it's too RNG is just bad at FTL.

I got gud cause I'm really stupid and for the first 40 hours I had no clue you could pause during combat and I was like like "drat, people are right this poo poo is hard!". I only discovered you could pause and give orders after I was good enough to beat the entire game without pausing.