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Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I've always wanted to try Qud out but I'm a neanderthal who gets disoriented by ascii, is there any plans for tilesets?


Still will probably try it out anyways though. It looks cool.

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Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

So can I not attack multiple times in combat with multiple arms in Qud? i wanted to swing around 4 battle axes like a crazy mutant barbarian but I only seem to attack with one in combat. :(

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Unormal posted:

You certainly can, but you'll need to invest in things like the Dual Wield skill and leveling up your extra arm mutations to increase offhand and extra-hand attacks in order to start elevating your proc rate. They'll still all proc without those things, but the rate is pretty low to start with.

With enough proc-rate increasing you can even start proccing hands multiple times per attack.

Ah, I see. Thanks. I've never had a character survive redrock yet so I don't know much about the mechanics admittedly. :shobon:

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009


Woulda responded to this earlier but I was at work, thanks a ton for the info. It's very much appreciated. I looked around and some people suggested going straight to red rock after getting the quest which probably explains why I kept getting splatted, haha.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

So I'm starting to get back into Desktop Dungeons after buying the beta like two years ago and restarting since they've changed the structure of things and I just now noticed that the support the devs version (the one I bought for 20 bux) has a special class and landmark? I don't think I've ever seen these even when I used to play. What are they and how do you unlock them? The wiki isn't very helpful on that front.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

There's also a newgame+ option for Eldritch.....


Which does nothing but double the amount of damage you take from any source. No new items or anything. :thumbsup:

I did kind of have fun with it though but I was definitely playing the game wrong since I just bunny hopped around the levels hunting dynamite to skip the majority of the levels. As a lovecraftian stealth game it's awful but as a game where you try to just beat it as fast as possible it's kind of fun. Not worth sales price at all though.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Are there any good newbie guides for getting a chaotic character off the ground in ADOM? I'm new to ADOM in general and Chaos Knight has been a pretty fun but most information/guides I can find are for neutral/lawful characters.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Oh alright, with how easy I was killing things at the start I assumed they were a newbie one. Thanks.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Premium version also has an exclusive class.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

So when will we be able to preorder this? It looks fun as heck.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

amuayse posted:

How is the Jojo Diavolo roguelike?

Comes down to how much you like mystery dungeon style RLs. I find it fun but nothing to write home about.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Does pre-purchasing Sproggiwood give you access to the beta? I always seem to check this thread right after the last code was taken.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Unormal posted:

Yup!

Or just e-mail me at unormal at gmail, or just fill this thing out, and say you're from SA: http://www.freeholdentertainment.com/beta/

You're the best!

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Eschatos posted:

I want to like TOME but its art style is just eye-searingly bad. Pretty much the same reason I never got into any Arcen games. That, and there's just too drat many talents to pick from and no guidance on what's actually useful.

It grew on me but you can always get the oldRPG pack that makes it way easier on the eyes.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I picked up that Our Darker Purpose game since it was on sale. Pretty alright Issac clone I guess, I like the music and art (reminds me a ton of Nightmare Ned, which was a game that scared the poo poo out of me as a kid) but the hitboxes are kind of wonky and bosses have way too much hp that it gets more tedious the play the longer you stick with it.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I'm surprised how many people seemed to like it. I thought it was pretty dull and the most effective way to play was to just blow things up while bunny hopping like you're playing quake.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I like wizard of legend but I always feel like I'm playing wrong since i get past two bosses and then die because of how many enemies start spawning and how much damage they do. I think the basic mobs have way too much hp in general.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Also having 0 iframes feels really bad. I once fought the ice lady and got clipped by a freeze attack and then took 230 damage from just repeated attacks with no way to actually react. that happens alot with mooks too, if you take one hit you basically take a ton.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Is there a beginners guide or any good tips for Demon? Not really sure what to be doing, kinda flailed around to the first branch I found on floor 3 and lost 2 of my demons so I kinda called it the quits.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Yeah thanks for the tips, def points me in the right direction.

Another thing, is the 'solo' Relic viable or just a challenge/meme option? If it is viable how should you go about doing it? Any particular spells you need asap onto yourself? Do you still use 1 demon out for support..I couldn't see the exact numbers on the bonus for having less demons or the one for having 0, so I wasn't sure exactly how big it was.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

So now that the update has been out for a while, does anyone have any thoughts on the new ToME class? Not really sure which trees are worth investing in since they all seem good, and spreading thin seems like a bad idea.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009


Thanks for the writeup!

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

How do you get new steam injectors in the base campaign of tome? I need a new steam implant so I can actually use both my sustains but I dunno how to get more since they aren't in shops like they are in EoR.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Ah...It seems the tinker NPC won't spawn if you are a tinker (I used a escort selector addon to get tinkers on other guys, and I could choose it but it just made my first escort a random one instead...)
And you can't use new addons midgame so I guess I'm just going to have to tough it out for now.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I decided to try out Archer in TOME on a whim and wow, this really is as loving crazy as people were murmuring about.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Lol seriously? I'm playing on nightmare and just breezing by, about to hit dreadfell. Havent run into any issues other than being unable to kill the weirdling beast yet. I cant imagine how busted this was if this is post nerf. Was it just number changes?

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Anyone play a Temporal Warden recently in TOME? It says the Arrow Stitching ability will swap to my bow if I have one in the other slot but it doesn't work, says I need a bow equipped. The Blade one that swaps instantly from bow to daggers works though.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Frost Wyrmic would be your best bet maybe?

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

ToxicFrog posted:

This is making me want to reinstall ToME and try out one of the classes I haven't really given a fair shake, like Archer or Wyrmic

I don't think I can deal with the goddamn Prides again, though.

This latest patch did some stuff with them, dunno the extent yet.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Had a really promising Brawler on Nightmare going. Was doing the prides, wasn't too rough, go into a vault, open a door and see a pack of multi-hued wyrms, and fatfinger a hotkey and instantly die. :suicide:

Soooo frustrated at my own mistake right now.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Jarvisi posted:

I've never actually beaten TOME. Any tips? I think I've gotten the farthest as an Archer, but die once you go through the portal to the massively powerful wandering mobs on the world map

Honestly install a mod that disables patrols, they suck.


Alternatively I've noticed in this current version that the orc patrols don't follow you as fast as they used to and lose track after a tile or two so it's alot easier to not fight them at all.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Got my first Nightmare win in TOME! :toot:

Nightmare is alot of fun, I had to shrug off alot of bad habits from dozens of hours in Normal but once I started not just stupidly rushing into things it worked out pretty good. Deaths were dumb crap in the early game, 1 from getting near one shotted by the Daikara backup guardian and then 2 from Atamatholm attempts before I was finally able to kill him.

Mindstar Wyrmic was alot of fun, I dunno why the community is so down on it, maybe it's only apparent in Madness and Insane but I was doing crazy damage the whole way through.

https://te4.org/characters/20244/tome/cd55e98f-f71b-475f-8df3-e5e4bdb36bd9

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Is there a way to learn Tinkers in the Embers of Rage campaign? I only ever played it as a Tinker class so you got it upfront.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Does the game get screamer-y at any point? I love tense horror poo poo but pop scares ruin it for me.

e: basically I've been enjoying what little I've got to play but I don't wanna get into it and then open a door and have the droning background music interrupted with a ghost screaming at me or whatever.

Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 08:32 on Dec 8, 2019

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Spent a bit more with Door in the Woods, really neat game but it's getting kind of frustrating. I can never find clean water so even if I manage to get other stuff I typically end up slowly getting hosed over by that. Also lost all my experience since I threw a grenade at a group of Mannequins and lost most of my sanity then got mauled by a dog later. Boo. Only had like 10 at least.

e: also in regards to some loot, is the bowl of ramen always secretly worms or is it just a chance?

Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Dec 9, 2019

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

How do you even deal with Horrors in Door in the Woods, they move so fast I have no idea how you're expected to juke them. Had a decent run going but seeing one bottomed out my sanity near instantly despite being medicated and it caught up to me so fast there was no escape, did like 400~ damage with a shotgun and it didn't seem to do anything and now I'm back to 0 experiences.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Lost 20 experiences to a named horror. I just want to unlock the madman... :negative:

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Dachshundofdoom posted:

They can be spent to unlock alternate starts and game modes. I think you also convert them into stat-boosting items for future attempts to find by writing on blank paper, but I'm not sure how that works yet because I haven't had enough to try. I assume/hope it's permanent metaprogression and not a one-time boost, but this game's pretty mean.

Losing them all would hurt considering how slow they build up. Keeping a means of suicide on hand seems really important.

It's one time boost, goes away when you die.

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Right now I feel the gamble for experiences just isnt worth it. Going to spoiler this for people who dont want mechanics spoiled but Presences spawn way too close and fast once announced. Like 8 tiles at max? Seriously? Regaining sanity is too slow that you can play pretty well but bottom out from horrors and such and then have a presence spawn in the house with you and you're boned unless you got lucky enough to find a bear trap, instantly erasing any meta progress you've accumulated. I dont think the game itself needs to be made easier but I really think the way presences spawn should be looked at. or maybe make it so killing yourself with 0 sanity only removes half your banked experiences or.something. but youd lose them all if you died to.something else still.

Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Dec 10, 2019

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Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I like DoomRL but couldn't get into Jupiter Hell at all. Anyone else feel the same?

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