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trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
Got Dave’s Picks 49 in the house. Finally have “Healy sabotages Bobby’s vocals with preposterous amounts of fx” and “Jerry’s voice is even worse than you remembered” in the highest of fidelities.

I kid, kinda, I like 85 as much as the next degenerate and they’re perfectly fine shows from the era, and both set 2s have nice high points. But yeah I don’t think I’ll be able to sell this one on Discogs to fund my retirement in a few years.

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algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Don't quit your daaaaaay job...

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
Dead And Co announced the Vegas Sphere run, no specifics on dates yet but it’s supposed to be 14 shows.

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
So fuckin gross

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Arms_Akimbo posted:

So fuckin gross

How is it different than playing a boxing arena in the bowels of the MGM grand, other than the opportunities to do cooler AV? Dead and Co is a cash grab nostalgia band for boomers. That’s the gross part. Are you saying that beautiful, pristine Las Vegas, Nevada has been sullied by commercialism? If they did a residency at MSG it’s the same shithead owner.

Arms_Akimbo
Sep 29, 2006

It's so damn...literal.
Here are the dates

I feel like I don't need to explain why the Grateful Dead of all bands doing 14 shows in a multi billion dollar vanity project is nasty poo poo

Also scroll up, the visuals are trash

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BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Arms_Akimbo posted:

Here are the dates

I feel like I don't need to explain why the Grateful Dead of all bands doing 14 shows in a multi billion dollar vanity project is nasty poo poo

Also scroll up, the visuals are trash



1 it’s not the Grateful Dead. It’s not even ratdog. But the dead played at every football stadium owned by billionaire sons of billionaires ever built. And 2, yup U2 sure suck and it looks like they cobbled together something quick for the inaugural shows at a brand new, one of a kind facility. And yup, if you wait until 2 days before a super sold out show to buy scalper tickets, they’re pretty expensive!

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



BigFactory posted:

1 it’s not the Grateful Dead. It’s not even ratdog. But the dead played at every football stadium owned by billionaire sons of billionaires ever built. And 2, yup U2 sure suck and it looks like they cobbled together something quick for the inaugural shows at a brand new, one of a kind facility. And yup, if you wait until 2 days before a super sold out show to buy scalper tickets, they’re pretty expensive!

do u like own stock in the sphere or something lol

we are inching closer and closer to "Jerry would have wanted to be a dystopian Blade Runner esque hologram!"

Elephunk
Dec 6, 2007



I just wanna know if Phish tickets are gonna be easier to find now

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Arms_Akimbo posted:

the Grateful Dead

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Kvlt! posted:

do u like own stock in the sphere or something lol

we are inching closer and closer to "Jerry would have wanted to be a dystopian Blade Runner esque hologram!"

How is it any different than the MGM grand, except it’s a venue you might actually be interested in checking out cause it’s weird? Instead of hoping you can still smell Joe Rogan when you go in there.

“Oh no, there’s something big and tacky on the Las Vegas strip! I’m getting the vapors! Not the Las Vegas strip!”

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Kvlt! posted:

we are inching closer and closer to "Jerry would have wanted to be a dystopian Blade Runner esque hologram!"

I’d rather see this than dead and co. They blow. At least ratdog had Rob Wasserman’s weird Quasimodo energy on stage.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



BigFactory posted:

How is it any different than the MGM grand, except it’s a venue you might actually be interested in checking out cause it’s weird? Instead of hoping you can still smell Joe Rogan when you go in there.

“Oh no, there’s something big and tacky on the Las Vegas strip! I’m getting the vapors! Not the Las Vegas strip!”

Because all the Vegas lights kinda blend together into one background, so you dont really notice one indivdual thing. The Sphere is just a gargantuan animated billboard.

I attended the F1 race in Vegas recently and none of the signs distracted me except I sat directly opposite the sphere and just had advertisements blaring in my face and there was nowhere on the track I could look where it wasnt in my peripheral. And they werent showing vids from the race or live stats on the Sphere, it was all ads.

I dont think I need to tell you how the MGM grand is different than having a building sized Travis Scott leering over the city (or in my case for a race!)

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Kvlt! posted:

Because all the Vegas lights kinda blend together into one background, so you dont really notice one indivdual thing. The Sphere is just a gargantuan animated billboard.

I attended the F1 race in Vegas recently and none of the signs distracted me except I sat directly opposite the sphere and just had advertisements blaring in my face and there was nowhere on the track I could look where it wasnt in my peripheral. And they werent showing vids from the race or live stats on the Sphere, it was all ads.

I dont think I need to tell you how the MGM grand is different than having a building sized Travis Scott leering over the city (or in my case for a race!)

Sounds like an improvement

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
To me this essentially seems no different than running all inclusive Cancun resort festivals in terms of trying to milk cash from an aging/affluent fan base (I consider myself in that fan base tbh).

And for the people that are upset because they thought the San Francisco shows were supposed to be the last ones ever, that football has been yanked away so many times, idk what else you should expect at this point.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



BigFactory posted:

Sounds like an improvement

i guess it does if your a loser defending the sphere to wooks online

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Kvlt! posted:

i guess it does if your a loser defending the sphere to wooks online

Lol

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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I've never been able to afford (or justify I guess) Dead and Co tickets and this just solidifies them as being an act that I'm ok not seeing. I do want to see Oteil in some lineup, and Bob again since I only ever saw him in Ratdog. But I think those opportunities are common and there's a good chance of getting to see both of them with Billy Strings some day.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

I've never been able to afford (or justify I guess) Dead and Co tickets and this just solidifies them as being an act that I'm ok not seeing. I do want to see Oteil in some lineup, and Bob again since I only ever saw him in Ratdog. But I think those opportunities are common and there's a good chance of getting to see both of them with Billy Strings some day.

Aquarium Rescue Unit reunion 2024

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
Wolf Bros are really good, I highly recommend seeing Bobby in that setting if the opportunity comes around.

Planet X
Dec 10, 2003

GOOD MORNING
Didnt they just finish their final farewell tour or whatever? I'd be pissed if I had gone out of my way to see them on that then they do this, but I suppose that's not surprising. Plenty of bands have multiple "farewell" tours, I saw KISS on one lol

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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BigFactory posted:

Aquarium Rescue Unit reunion 2024

Is this a wish or is it happening? I never got to see them either but I saw Panic with Jimmy a handful of times and I like him. Oh and I saw Count M'Butu with Melvin Seals, that was great.

HenryJLittlefinger fucked around with this message at 05:10 on Feb 2, 2024

Dicere
Oct 31, 2005
Non plaudite modo pecuniam jacite.

I read Phil's book over the summer and boy oh boy did he harp on about the band never having money. They'd play shows, make money, get ripped off, play shows, lose money, get ripped off, drop albums to pay off debts, drop albums because it was less expensive than touring, tour anyway. Jerry slipped into his coma and they were back on the road that same year in part because they were failing to keep their company(ies) solvent.

I just can't get that worked up about people cashing in on Grateful Dead music at some luxury venue - least of all the band's survivors.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



e: wrong thread

Final Blog Entry
Jun 23, 2006

"Love us with money or we'll hate you with hammers!"

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Is this a wish or is it happening? I never got to see them either but I saw Panic with Jimmy a handful of times and I like him. Oh and I saw Count M'Butu with Melvin Seals, that was great.

Got to see the Codetalkers with Jimmy Herring & Col Bruce back in 2005 at Skippers Smokehouse which is an amazing outdoor venue here in Tampa, that was rad.

Did Wannee Fest every year for a bunch of years and a highlight was always Otiel and the Peacemakers doing a day set since he was there to play with the Allmans. The Saturday midnight show after the Allman Bros was always Derek and Susan Trucks' "Soul Stew Revival", which was really a proto- Tedeshchi Trucks Band back when Derek still had DTB and Susan was doing her own thing. Those were absolutely amazing festivals, especially the year we got Ratdog.



Got this lineup coming to town soon and hoping I can make it but being a parent really complicates such things at this point in my life.

Final Blog Entry fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Feb 2, 2024

Planet X
Dec 10, 2003

GOOD MORNING

Dicere posted:

I read Phil's book over the summer and boy oh boy did he harp on about the band never having money. They'd play shows, make money, get ripped off, play shows, lose money, get ripped off, drop albums to pay off debts, drop albums because it was less expensive than touring, tour anyway. Jerry slipped into his coma and they were back on the road that same year in part because they were failing to keep their company(ies) solvent.

I just can't get that worked up about people cashing in on Grateful Dead music at some luxury venue - least of all the band's survivors.

That part stuck out to me too - the fact that he (IIRC) was pretty anxious when the band took hiatuses or when Jerry died, as there wasn't any savings. On one hand, hard to believe, but once you get under the surface, you see this huge rudderless, bloated business with bad decisions and lack of leadership. They had grown too much to stop touring, which would have impacted the livelihoods of those in the org. Ended up impacting Jerry's life the most, one could say.

I can't blame the remaining members for wanting to continue touring and cashing in on the name, but also at this point, I'd figure that they are probably reasonably set, especially in their advanced age. In the Netflix doc, Bob was driving a late model Tesla and Billy lives in Kuai. I guess what I don't get is leading your fanbase along that you're going to stop doing shows, but then you turn around and announce more shows.

Hey, it's their lives and business, so thats fine I guess. I could see the appeal of seeing the various Dead offshoots with original members, but personally I'd much rather see a young cover band firing on all cylinders and playing the good ol' tunes at tempo.

I really like this thread :tipshat:

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Planet X posted:

That part stuck out to me too - the fact that he (IIRC) was pretty anxious when the band took hiatuses or when Jerry died, as there wasn't any savings. On one hand, hard to believe, but once you get under the surface, you see this huge rudderless, bloated business with bad decisions and lack of leadership. They had grown too much to stop touring, which would have impacted the livelihoods of those in the org. Ended up impacting Jerry's life the most, one could say.

I can't blame the remaining members for wanting to continue touring and cashing in on the name, but also at this point, I'd figure that they are probably reasonably set, especially in their advanced age. In the Netflix doc, Bob was driving a late model Tesla and Billy lives in Kuai. I guess what I don't get is leading your fanbase along that you're going to stop doing shows, but then you turn around and announce more shows.

Hey, it's their lives and business, so thats fine I guess. I could see the appeal of seeing the various Dead offshoots with original members, but personally I'd much rather see a young cover band firing on all cylinders and playing the good ol' tunes at tempo.

I really like this thread :tipshat:

You could say it would be better to just listen to newer jam bands, but they make the worst music ever dreamed up. I’d rather listen to a very bad Grateful Dead cover band than pigeons playing ping pong on their best day.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Goose

*shudder*



I will say JRAD is some of the best musicians playing together I've seen and they make some fun versions of Dead songs.

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
demand for Mayer at THE SPHERE must be good, because they just added two more weekends in July

Dicere
Oct 31, 2005
Non plaudite modo pecuniam jacite.

Didn't the Dead do a farewell show in 74 when they needed a break? I said I was leaving Facebook once 12 years ago and then didn't. So whomst among us?

I wish there were Dead tribute bands in my area. I might see Oteil this spring but I'll be driving hours for the privilege. It bothers me more than it should that my avenue for sharing the dead with people I know has been covers and tribute bands.

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe
My favorite local Dead cover band is a bunch of retirement age dudes that exclusively play Pigpen era stuff. Even my wife doesn't mind going to see them. The young dude Dead cover bands here are very bland.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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The Colorado front range has more Dead bands than I've ever seen. We have:
Dead Floyd (yes its what it sounds like)
Tumbledown Shack
Shakedown Street
Built to Last
Pickin on Dead
Dead Alive
Dead Phish Orchestra
Steely Dead
Drums and Space

And those are just the ones I remember

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

BigFactory posted:

You could say it would be better to just listen to newer jam bands, but they make the worst music ever dreamed up. I’d rather listen to a very bad Grateful Dead cover band than pigeons playing ping pong on their best day.

My deadhead friends keep insisting I should listen to Phish because they are great, but I don't because they are not. They just make me think of twee white dudes in college. I'd rather listen to an Oysterhead show than a Phish show.

HenryJLittlefinger posted:

Dead Floyd (yes its what it sounds like)

They any good? They pop up here from time to time but I haven't made it out to see them yet.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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Rev. Bleech_ posted:


They any good? They pop up here from time to time but I haven't made it out to see them yet.

I haven't seen them yet. I'm not actually a huge Pink Floyd fan so I've never made the effort. Shakedown Street is good, though. And a friend of mine plays in Built To Last, but I haven't seen them either.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

My deadhead friends keep insisting I should listen to Phish because they are great, but I don't because they are not. They just make me think of twee white dudes in college. I'd rather listen to an Oysterhead show than a Phish show.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

My deadhead friends keep insisting I should listen to Phish because they are great, but I don't because they are not. They just make me think of twee white dudes in college. I'd rather listen to an Oysterhead show than a Phish show.

Phish is 40 years old they’re not a new band.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
I'll never forget the time on a couch tour someone posted "I'd love to see Jerry try and play Golgi Aperatus"

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

algebra testes posted:

I'll never forget the time on a couch tour someone posted "I'd love to see Jerry try and play Golgi Aperatus"

I would love to see that too. It would be better than Phil doing sample in a jar.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

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algebra testes posted:

I'll never forget the time on a couch tour someone posted "I'd love to see Jerry try and play Golgi Aperatus"

Lol

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Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



BigFactory posted:

I would love to see that too. It would be better than Phil doing sample in a jar.

phil did sample in a jar? i both need to and dread listening to this

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