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mynamewas
Jul 23, 2007
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DongsMcMurphy posted:

It always strikes me as sickening and ironic that some of the inhabitants of countries that fought tooth-and-nail against the Axis are now saying "hey this fascism thing has always worked historically hyuk hyuk" and deliberately using imagery that evokes the Nazis in their iconography. Case in point, Golden Dawn:



They're not even trying to hide this poo poo. Is a generation or two of kids not paying attention to history all it takes for these motherfuckers to dupe Europe again?
Deprive a generation of young males of employment, hope, and pride and it's not really surprising when they're won over by a political group offering them their dignity and a chance to (violently) express their discontent.

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mynamewas
Jul 23, 2007
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Fascism is gaining popularity in Greece and the Golden Dawn is openly promising to do horrible things to immigrants/"degenerates" if they gain political power, but we should tolerate them because banning their party and prosecuting their violent thugs would delegitimize the liberal state which few people at this moment have reason to trust anyway.

mynamewas
Jul 23, 2007
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Er Pernacchia posted:

Yet another pseudo anti-"fascist" DD circle-jerk full of bash the fash heros (there are literally thousands of fascists gathering in most football grounds in Italy every single Sunday. No bash the fash hero on sight...might that have something to do with bash the fash heros only attending 10:1 marches?)

...and as always no-one ever asks why do people CONTINUE to go that way? How can the left fail SO MISERABLY again and again and again so much as not be seen as the natural harbour for discontent?

How can it be that "Fascists" (you are very unattentive about fascism if you make a thread like this) are now mayors? (Mayor of Rome and other cities and towns scattered around italy).

For every fascist in existence you have the slap in the face reminder of the failure of the left. Every single fascist is a reminder of the bankruptcy of thought of the left.

Don't "bash the fash", bash yourself into oblivion, gently caress off forever and do everybody else a favour.

There are two fascist way of thinkings: the left and the fascists. At least the fascists know they are.
We'll still bend over for the troika and not really change the economic system, but at least you won't have foreign contagions leeching off the national blood!

mynamewas
Jul 23, 2007
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Install Windows posted:

The "fighting leagues" of the political parties ended up allowing everyone to paint each other as dangerous violent people terrorizing the streets. All of these groups, from all sides, did a lot more "pre-emptive" and just plain unprovoked violence than they ever did plain self-defense. This combined with existing distrust and anti-democratic sentiment (and it should never be underestimated just how much of that there was then! tons of Germans were all about reducing things back to the pseudo-democracy available under the Kaiser's rule) to make "we must protect ourselves from those leftists" even more of the German public than otherwise - this was also why rightist unprovoked violence tended to be glossed over.
That and you had a conservative judiciary that was selective in enforcing censorship/rule of law.

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