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Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Nodoze posted:

https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/media/apple-close-to-finalizing-1b-deal-with-fifa-over-tv-rights-for-new-tournament-report/

Soccer�s global governing body FIFA is close to an agreement with Apple to give the tech company worldwide television rights for a new, month-long club tournament, the New York Times reported Monday.

The deal with Apple could be announced as soon as this month and valued at around $1 billion, a quarter of the $4 billion FIFA had first estimated, the report said, citing three people familiar with the matter.

The potential agreement would give the company�s streaming business an edge amid competition among streaming services providers to lap up rights for widely watched sporting events in a bid to add subscribers.

The 32-team event will be held next year between June 15 and July 13. Usually, no major events are scheduled during this period in order to allow players to rest in the off-season a year before the World Cup, according to the report.

An exclusive rights deal for a tournament absolutely nobody was asking for.

It's perfect.

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# ? May 4, 2024 06:48

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

There are already way too many drat soccer tournaments

# ? Apr 23, 2024 23:36

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

FlamingLiberal posted:

There are already way too many drat soccer tournaments

It's an expansion of the existing Club World Cup, which typically took place over about a week in December each year with six or so teams taking part. However, FIFA decided they don't already make enough money so it's been expanded from six to 32 teams and will now have a schedule similar to the international World Cup. The tradeoff is that it will take place every four years instead of every year.

# ? Apr 24, 2024 00:15

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

throw in an expanded world cup and inter-continental competition and top level players could be looking at playing three summers out of every four after far too crowded domestic seasons, which I am sure will have no effect on the product being presented

# ? Apr 24, 2024 08:31

Island Nation: Jun 20, 2006; Trust No One

Crazy Ted posted:

It's an expansion of the existing Club World Cup, which typically took place over about a week in December each year with six or so teams taking part. However, FIFA decided they don't already make enough money so it's been expanded from six to 32 teams and will now have a schedule similar to the international World Cup. The tradeoff is that it will take place every four years instead of every year.

It sounds like a replacement for the Confederations Cup that was a dress rehearsal for the World Cup but with teams Europeans want to see

# ? Apr 24, 2024 17:56

Simplex: Jun 29, 2003

Island Nation posted:

It sounds like a replacement for the Confederations Cup that was a dress rehearsal for the World Cup but with teams Europeans want to see

Sounds to me it's more a way to get Al-Hilal a game against Real Madrid and Bayern.

# ? Apr 24, 2024 20:39

Crazy Ted: Jul 29, 2003

Island Nation posted:

It sounds like a replacement for the Confederations Cup that was a dress rehearsal for the World Cup but with teams Europeans want to see

You would think that, but somehow this year's edition is only being played in the United States, with zero games in Canada or Mexico :iiam:

# ? Apr 24, 2024 22:48

Island Nation: Jun 20, 2006; Trust No One

Simplex posted:

Sounds to me it's more a way to get Al-Hilal a game against Real Madrid and Bayern.

A few of them want to see Neymar. A few more from Switzerland want to commit money laundering.

Crazy Ted posted:

You would think that, but somehow this year's edition is only being played in the United States, with zero games in Canada or Mexico

[FIFA] Darn, we forgot to schedule games in Canada and Mexico, let me use these Swiss Francs to wipe these tears away

# ? Apr 25, 2024 02:08

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Crazy Ted posted:

That's still the WNBA's biggest problem: the NBA shoehorns it into the summer on a compressed schedule and then wonders why the average basketball fan doesn't watch it.

Some of this is just the reality that the WNBA is not the primary women's league and even this compressed schedule in the middle of the year is about the best they can do and have top talent, and even then often the stars didn't make it until training camp was well under way, or the season was already going, and they've had years where a top player chose another league all together. The money has gone up with this CBA and they're forcing players to show up at the start of training camp to get it and the Russian leagues are off the table for Westerners so I think they can at least think of decompressing the schedule in the future, but before now it would not have really been possible.

# ? Apr 25, 2024 09:25

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

https://x.com/andrewmarchand/status/1783944123218878479?s=46

# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:44

Criminal Minded: Jan 4, 2005; Spring break forever

So there's no way this isn't a loving disaster for fans and consumers

# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:45

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

Criminal Minded posted:

So there's no way this isn't a loving disaster for fans and consumers

i would think that thursday night football has been successful enough to warrant amazon getting more major rights

# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:53

Dinosaurs!: May 22, 2003

This kills the League Pass

# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:53

AsInHowe: Jan 11, 2007; red winged angel

Criminal Minded posted:

So there's no way this isn't a loving disaster for fans and consumers

This is going to be a disaster that hurts the NBA.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 20:57

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Dinosaurs! posted:

This kills the League Pass

I think it's only certain games so I doubt it does much to league pass.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:10

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AsInHowe posted:

This is going to be a disaster that hurts the NBA.

Good, the NBA shouldn't be immune from streaming.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:20

Dango Bango: Jul 26, 2007

I can't get the full article - are they just gonna require the full $120 or whatever it's up to now annual Prime subscription?

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:33

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

Edward Mass posted:

Good, the NBA shouldn't be immune from streaming.

It should be. I can't see how they see other leagues losing money because no one wants to subscribe to 7 services and want that

We are all gonna return to the Streams of the Eastern winds eventually especially given none of these systems are reliable

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:33

Edward Mass: Sep 14, 2011; 𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
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My post was more in a bitter tone.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:35

DeimosRising: Oct 17, 2005; �Hola SEA!

Isentropy posted:

It should be. I can't see how they see other leagues losing money because no one wants to subscribe to 7 services and want that

We are all gonna return to the Streams of the Eastern winds eventually especially given none of these systems are reliable

I would bet most people are subscribed to 5+ streaming services and don�t even remember 2 of them. Most people don�t care and it�s going to be accepted practice to have 10 streaming services and pay cable prices again soon

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:35

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

Edward Mass posted:

Good, the NBA shouldn't be immune from streaming.

surprised that it took this long for them to have online-only games

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:40

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Isentropy posted:

It should be. I can't see how they see other leagues losing money because no one wants to subscribe to 7 services and want that

We are all gonna return to the Streams of the Eastern winds eventually especially given none of these systems are reliable

Which leagues are losing money because of this?

# ? Apr 26, 2024 21:54

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.

Lockback posted:

Which leagues are losing money because of this?

Depends on the structure of the deal. If it's like the MLS deal the NBA would have to do better that its current performance to make more money than a traditional TV deal. If it's just guaranteed money like the NFL then there's not a lot of downside to it.

# ? Apr 26, 2024 22:21

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

Lockback posted:

Which leagues are losing money because of this?

I pulled it out my rear end but there's no way everyone is subscribing to the 5 streaming services they need to watch a game now right?

With the end of ZIRP this can't be real and honestly only the streaming services offering the most will live. I can see like Amazon Prime being fine. Peacock?

# ? Apr 26, 2024 23:33

Mike_V: Jul 31, 2004; 3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks

I think this means Netflix ends up with the in-season tournament at this point

# ? Apr 26, 2024 23:57

Lockback: Sep 3, 2006; All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

Well, that isn't a problem for the leagues though, they aren't asking for a % of new subscribers or whatever, they're asking for a flat rate. Amazon/peacock/whoever is paying them that flat rate with the hope that it will entice enough people to sign up (and then ideally forget they have a subscription for years).

For basketball in particular, very very few people watch every game for their teams and no one is watching every game out there, it's impossible. I dunno if Amazon is going to take over Wednesday night games or whatever, but this probably will only impact 2-4 games a week, and there are usually like 50+ games in an average week, and most of them are not watchable for most people anyway. If Portland is playing Charlotte on Amazon, it's unlikely most people would have watched that game anyway.

How they intend to get and broadcast conference finals is more interesting, I would be surprised if its an Amazon-Only thing, though they play playoff games on NBATV which not everyone has access to either.

Basically, what I'd like is just League Pass with all games, but if we can't have that I prefer games to be accessible on a platform that's not cable TV since I have no intention of signing up for cable TV.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 00:03

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

We're not gonna get a no blackout league pass until the RSNs are dead. I think Amazon is buying the corpse of Bally's Sports, so they're gonna own a bunch of the rights already, but teams like the Lakers and Knicks have rock solid deals for decades

# ? Apr 27, 2024 00:14

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Vertical Lime posted:

https://x.com/andrewmarchand/status/1783944123218878479?s=46

https://twitter.com/AndrewMarchand/status/1783945127876239584

So Amazon in for Turner then, or is the package going to be split multiple ways?

# ? Apr 27, 2024 00:26

Vertical Lime: Dec 11, 2004

they say the final part of the package will go to turner and/or nbc

# ? Apr 27, 2024 00:30

FlamingLiberal: Jan 18, 2009; Would you like to play a game?

The Glumslinger posted:

We're not gonna get a no blackout league pass until the RSNs are dead. I think Amazon is buying the corpse of Bally's Sports, so they're gonna own a bunch of the rights already, but teams like the Lakers and Knicks have rock solid deals for decades

The Dodgers as well

MLB is a separate issue though since some teams have their own networks like the Cubs and Yankees

# ? Apr 27, 2024 00:30

Isentropy: Dec 12, 2010

There's also one somewhat (??) major team (almost every Toronto team) owned by a telecom company.

# ? Apr 27, 2024 11:07

Rick: Feb 23, 2004; When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.