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Aug 17, 2006

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Niwrad posted:

I didn't know AM radio could travel so far. When I lived in SE Minnesota I remember being ecstatic that WGN radio in Chicago could reach it. Listened to many Cubs games that way.

Also used to love driving through the Midwest on a Friday night and picking up local high school football games from halfway across a state on random stations.

I've heard/seen plenty of stories about people being able to hear Yankees games on the radio in Florida from NY

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Aug 17, 2006

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The irony too is that people started cord cutting to save money and things were consolidated and easy, and then everyone else decided they wanted a bigger piece of the pie and had to start their OWN streaming service and fragment everything again so it ends up becoming as much as cable if you sub to everything

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Mahoning posted:

People always say the bolded part but like, who’s subscribing to everything? The beauty of streaming is the ease of signing up and canceling services at will. Succession is over for the season? Great, cancel HBO Max now. College football season is over? Ok cool now get rid of ESPN+. (Or in my case get rid of the Disney+/Hulu/ESPN bundle and just go with D+) I’ll probably cancel Netflix too since there’s nothing I want to watch on there for the foreseeable future. I’ll probably sign up again in 6 months. But I’ll have saved like $60-70 in the meantime.

The lovely thing about cable is that you’re pretty much always paying for everything at all times, even if like me you only watch ESPN 4-5 months out of the year. What’s the carriage fee for ESPN? $8-9? Maybe more? So that’s what you’re paying for it even if you never watch it from January-August.

I don't but there are definitely people out there who do. All we have at the moment is Netflix, Hulu and Disney+, and really I could just do seasonal for D+ but I signed up for the three years discounted price thing they did when it launched. In the future I'll probably do that cause it's the one we watch the least of by far.

I agree about cable too, that's why I don't have it.

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Aug 17, 2006

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https://nypost.com/2022/02/06/chicago-cubs-in-talks-to-launch-streaming-service-amid-resistance-from-mlb/

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The Chicago Cubs are in talks with media giant Sinclair Broadcasting to launch a streaming service for customers without a cable or satellite-TV subscription — despite pushback from Major League Baseball on the idea, The Post has learned.

In a deal that insiders say could have league-wide implications, the Cubs and Sinclair are angling to launch the new service following a tough round of negotiations with cable-TV giant Comcast more than a year ago, which resulted in capping monthly fees for the Marquee Sports Network, the broadcaster of local Cubs games, according to sources close to the situation.

MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred is concerned that Sinclair, loaded down with debt after a series of big acquisitions, doesn’t have the cash needed to produce high-quality broadcasts, sources said. As exclusively reported by The Post, Manfred also has been angling to launch a league-wide streaming service as soon as next year.

One key point of concern for MLB, according to insiders, is the $18-a-month price tag that’s being floated for the new Cubs streaming service — a tab that’s higher than what users pay for streaming services like Netflix, HBO Max or Disney+ and which league officials fear will be too high for the average fan.

Sinclair counters it can get customers to pay the $18 once it has amassed streaming rights for 14 teams — nearly half of MLB’s franchises, according to sources close to the talks. The plan is for Sinclair’s Bally Sports to begin by airing games of teams whose rights it has recently secured, including the Detroit Tigers, Kansas City Royals, Miami Marlins, Milwaukee Brewers and Tampa Bay Rays games when it launches this summer.

Nevertheless, MLB wants to protect itself in case this direct-to-consumer service fails, especially given Sinclair’s wobbly financial condition, sources said. Its Diamond Sports unit, which in addition to Bally’s and the 50% Marquee stake owns a minority stake in the YES Network, owes nearly $9 billion in loans and its debt is trading at distressed levels with a value of about $5 billion. The principal comes due in 2026.

Despite such concerns, sources said Sinclair believes it can entice fans with its streaming service by making it more interactive and focused on gambling. Plans are to launch an app so fans can chat directly with the television announcers and participate in sweepstakes, a source said.

Sinclair would not take sports bets directly, but point during broadcasts to partners like Bally’s where viewers could watch games through a media player over their betting apps. The bet is that fantasy football has boosted NFL ratings and combining gaming with other sports should do the same.

“This would be like a picture within a picture,” according to a source briefed on Sinclair’s plans

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Aug 17, 2006

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Can MLB eliminate blackout restrictions on their own or do they need to negotiate it with every RSN/channel carrying games? They could effectively nuke that project by just lifting the blackouts on mlbtv

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Aug 17, 2006

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The best part of the pro bowl was always the skills competition

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This was rumored a while back so not surprising. Wonder if they would put games on Disney+

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Probably the only state that would have a hard time with Friday night NFL is Texas, because high school football is bonkers there

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You should be probated for saying this

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drat that sucks :smith:

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Mazz got suspended for the rest of the week

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Bird in a Blender posted:

If you're going to make any sort of connection, it's happening right before the first quarter ends. Maybe Disney's quarterly earnings report is going to be ugly.

Probably. They have been bleeding money from D+, and most of their recent movies have been flops. There are also rumors that they were heavily tied into FTX and lost money in that as well. Chapek got canned as a sacrificial lamb, but they brought back Iger who started all the things that got them in trouble in the first place

Investors have been calling for them to unload ESPN as an asset because there are real questions about how long it's sustainable

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Aug 17, 2006

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https://nypost.com/2023/03/21/mlb-to-stream-all-minor-league-games-for-free-on-ballys-casinos-app-sources/

NYPost posted:

Major League Baseball owners have cut a deal with a casino giant to provide free broadcasts of all minor league games this season — a bid to lure more viewers to the sport as rampant cord-cutting continues to shrink its audience, The Post has learned.

MLB sold the broadcasts rights to all 120 minor league teams — from the Class A Savannah Sand Gnats to the Triple-A Albuquerque Isotopes — to casino operator Bally’s Corp., which will offer the free streams on its Bally Live app, according to two sources.
MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred pitched the deal — for an undisclosed amount – as a way to increase the reach of the minor league broadcasts, according to a presentation shared with MLB owners.

The free minor league games on the Bally Live App will launch April 15. There will be no blackouts for home games, sources said.

The deal comes as Diamond Sports, the regional sports network that owns the rights to broadcast 14 MLB teams, filed for bankruptcy this month, as The Post reported.

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DJ_Mindboggler posted:

I think "self-anointed" kind of self-explanatory.

East Coaster pizza chauvinism is always funny to me, it's at least 10x as prevalent as our Western burrito equivalent

It's true though because of Connecticut and NY

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/13/disney-ceo-iger-opens-door-to-unloading-tv-assets.html

CNBC posted:

At the top of the list is assessing the traditional TV business, Iger said on Thursday. Disney owns a portfolio of TV networks, from broadcast station ABC to cable-TV channels like ESPN.

Disney is going to be “expansive” in its thinking about the traditional TV business, leaving the door open to a possible sale of the networks. “They may not be core to Disney,” Iger said, adding the creativity that has come from those networks has been core to Disney.

Cable-TV channel ESPN is in a different bucket, however. On that front, Iger said Disney is open to finding a strategic partner, which could take the form of a joint venture or offloading an ownership stake.

Iger said when he had left the company he had predicted the future of traditional TV and had been “very pessimistic,” and has found since his return that he was right in his thinking, adding it’s worse than he expected.

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Aug 17, 2006

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Disney needs cash to pay Comcast for Hulu, they are contractually obligated to pay at minimum 9 billion for the remaining stake in it. It could, and almost certainly will, go higher since that valuation was from a few years ago. Getting out ahead on ESPN before it starts becoming an anchor is a good start on that

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Aug 17, 2006

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sportsgenius86 posted:

And they sold Barstool back to Portnoy apparently.

Allegedly he got it back for free, and only has to ever pay them if he sells the company again which he claims he won't do. There is some talk of non compete w/r/t gambling advertising but the people reporting on it are still unsure of the exact language of it

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Aug 17, 2006

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https://nypost.com/2023/11/02/business/sinclair-broadcasting-wants-to-scoop-up-diamond-sports-sources/

NY Post posted:

Sinclair Broadcasting Group wants to pay pennies on the dollar to regain control of a nationwide chain of regional sports networks — which it had paid $10.6 billion to acquire four years ago only to see it fall into bankruptcy this spring, The Post has learned.

Sinclair, which owns 185 television stations in 86 markets, in partnership with Bally’s has offered roughly $850 million to regain control of its bankrupt subsidiary, Diamond Sports Group, which airs local games on TV under the Bally Sports brand and owns the rights to 39 teams across MLB, the NBA and NHL, sources said.


The deal looks like a last gasp to keep the decades-old regional sports networks broadcasting on local TV. Diamond, which has been mired in bankruptcy court since March and is looking to restructure debts of up to $8.6 billion, has asked the court for another extension, from November 29 to Jan. 29, to present a restructuring plan, the sources said.

Last month, MLB argued against the extension, saying Diamond has failed for months to find a profitable operating model, Sportico reported. MLB said that Diamond’s cash on hand declined nearly 90%” between March and August, leaving its final reserves at about $22 million, according to the court record.

“There is no reason to believe that the debtors will finally figure out a path forward,” the league’s lawyers said in court filings

Diamond has been progressing in a deal with the NBA to cut the roughly $600 million it pays in annual rights fees by about 20% for two seasons. But the NBA wants all its media rights back after the 2024-25 season – when its national deals with Turner and ESPN expire, a source close to those talks said.

Commissioner Adam Silver plans to sell all the league’s streaming rights to a tech giant like Amazon starting in the 2025-26 season, a source with knowledge of those talks said.


As a condition of its deal, Sinclair wants Diamond to drop a $1.5 billion lawsuit against the parent company that alleges it pulled out money from the debt-laden subsidiary for management fees and dividends while knowing it was insolvent.

Sinclair has presented its bargain-basement offer to Diamond’s junior creditors, who hold about $8 billion of that debt and must decide whether to accept what amounts to about four cents on the dollar or the chance to roll their stakes into the new company, sources said.

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Aug 17, 2006

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Putting the entire NBA on prime video would be fantastic and I'd definitely watch more games

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Aug 17, 2006

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Adam Schefter got less heat for the "mr editor" thing lmao

The Thompson story is a huge nothing burger, all the people coming out to fire shots at her are just trying to justify their continued employment doing the same meaningless job

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Aug 17, 2006

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Nick Castellanos was responsible somehow

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You can't pin gambling on Silver, that's a ridiculous take.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/21/espn-executives-talk-streaming-plans-in-cnbc-documentary.html

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For more than 40 years, the world’s largest all-sports network has grown annual revenue by increasing cable subscription fees. ESPN first charged pay-TV distributors less than $1 per month per subscriber in the 1980s. In 2023, ESPN’s monthly carriage fee was $9.42 per subscriber, according to data from S&P Global Market Intelligence.

That business model is eroding. Since 2013, tens of millions of Americans have canceled their cable TV subscriptions, raising questions about ESPN’s future in an increasingly fragmented media landscape. CNBC spoke with multiple current and former Disney and ESPN executives about the network’s path ahead as part of the digital documentary “ESPN’s Fight for Dominance.”

ESPN reported domestic and international revenue grew just 1% to $4.4 billion in its most recent fiscal quarter. The network can no longer rely on price increases to make up the difference as the number of cable customers declines.

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The company has a new two-part streaming plan to reinvigorate growth. First, this fall, Disney will make ESPN available outside the traditional cable TV bundle for the first time as part of a joint venture with Warner Bros. Discovery and Fox. The service, which does not yet have a price, will target noncable customers who want to watch sports but don’t want to pay $80 or $100 a month for a full bundle of networks.

Second, in fall 2025 ESPN will launch its flagship streaming service that will include everything ESPN has to offer, both live and on demand. It will include unprecedented personalization and will interact with ESPN Bet, the company’s licensed online sportsbook, and fantasy sports to cater to younger fans. The product will go well beyond ESPN+, which exists as a $10.99 streaming service that doesn’t include ESPN’s most expensive programming, such as all of “Monday Night Football.”

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https://nypost.com/2024/04/22/media/apple-close-to-finalizing-1b-deal-with-fifa-over-tv-rights-for-new-tournament-report/

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Soccer’s global governing body FIFA is close to an agreement with Apple to give the tech company worldwide television rights for a new, month-long club tournament, the New York Times reported Monday.

The deal with Apple could be announced as soon as this month and valued at around $1 billion, a quarter of the $4 billion FIFA had first estimated, the report said, citing three people familiar with the matter.

The potential agreement would give the company’s streaming business an edge amid competition among streaming services providers to lap up rights for widely watched sporting events in a bid to add subscribers.

The 32-team event will be held next year between June 15 and July 13. Usually, no major events are scheduled during this period in order to allow players to rest in the off-season a year before the World Cup, according to the report.

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Aug 17, 2006

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He does MLB stuff already so probably more of it

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