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FuzzySkinner posted:It'd really help if the NFL, NCAA (I know, lawsuits), MLB wouldn't be so stingy sometimes about uploading games. (Formula 1 too, though I don't think anyone in this thread gives a poo poo about that) MLB should get a lot of poo poo for a lot of things, but putting baseball games on the internet is not one of them. You do have to be a subscriber, but they put up all the broadcasts for every game, all the radio broadcasts, highlight packages and condensed games. They also have like a "greatest games" section where you can just go watch incredible old baseball games. They're doing an excellent job putting the best version of their product out there so you don't have to hunt through youtube for it. I don't disagree that the NHL and NBA have far more seriously embraced the instant highlight packaging that youtube and other upload sites allow, however.
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Josh Lyman posted:Then what do we do on Sunday from when we wake up to 1pm ET? Sleep later. Don't watch NFL pregame shows and you'll have a better life. Maybe read Mike Tanier's preview 2-3 times instead.
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MourningView posted:I don't really know that there's some special qualification you need to meet to do that job, but he's written about the sport for a prominent outlet forever. That doesn't mean that he's going to be good on TV, but there's no rule that you need to be a former player to do it. I meant to ask how he's in the running for consideration. His stuff has never trended towards analysis, it's more reporting and public interest stuff.
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DJExile posted:Partly that, partly also that it'd be a logistical nightmare to have to keep paying cameramen, producers, etc. to keep shooting events that probably aren't going to get a lot of attention. Literally every event is being streamed live by the Olympic Broadcasting Service, which they're showing on their website. As far as I am aware, the feeds and the things like the splits/scores/etc graphics are the same for every country, and then for TV events the country's broadcaster will package that with their crew. I imagine that NBC has extra cameras to capture footage for something like figure skating, for example, but every event is already being shot and produced.
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R.D. Mangles posted:1. NBA. This is by far the worst because for some reason, every discussion over the all-star break is about who the MVP is. Who is the best basketball player? It is still LeBron James. It has been LeBron for some time and will be him for the conceivable future, except for the year that Derrick Rose won when everyone could see that, by EVERY OBJECTIVE MEASURE AND SOME NOT YET INVENTED DERRICK ROSE WAS BY FAR THE SUPERIOR PLAYER. Despite Bill Simmons's efforts to change this, basketball is not an individual sport that can be reduced to one-on-one battles to determine who wants it more, but for some reason the MVP debate continues to be dominate MVP consideration when it's more important to determine who the coolest basketball player is and that is Ronnie Turiaf. In that year it was LeBron James, too. In this year it should probably end up being LeBron James, because he is the best basketball player in the world. Durant is awfully good this year though, so he will win the MVP because everyone would die of boredom and spite if the best player in the NBA, LeBron James, won the MVP every year. If you ask "Is LeBron James the league MVP?" the default answer is yes until he gets old and breaks down. But that's boring so let's yell.
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MourningView posted:Durant winning this year would not just be a case of people being bored with LeBron. Oh no, Durant would be a totally legit and non-spite pick for NBA. I understand and appreciate that. I am just pointing out if you gave out the MVP to LeBron James before the season started, by the end of the season you would be correct to have done so much more often than not. The thing about Sports TV "debate" is it is all about yelling because apparently other types of discussion ARE boring on TV.
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Benne posted:Bayern is going to shithouse Man U and Gus will call it a "major upset" because Man U is the only soccer team he's heard of before taking this job. Can we please stop talking about Gus Johnson like he's a literal idiot who doesn't know how broadcasting works, rather than the network-selected commentator they keep running out who's the wrong choice because trial-by-fire is really dumb?
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Crazy Ted posted:And they use the standard FOX NFL/other sports music for their golf coverage. Only if they use the slow tempo "injury break" music 100% of the time because it's golf.
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Point conceded. You're right. HOOT AND HOLLER IT'S THE US OPEN
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ElwoodCuse posted:It's not shocking at all, the system you describe is simply less profitable to pro sports than the current one of exclusive territories and blackout regions. I'm not certain that's true anymore. With the combination of fans all over and more ubiquitous internet, the ability to offer yourself to the most people at all times seems like the best way to go.
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Mahoning posted:It definitely is true. But you're not wrong. It's just that advertising hasn't caught up with the new technology yet. Ad time on the actual cable channels are still worth a hell of a lot more money than streaming (and mlb.tv barely even has commercials). Cable channels could stream their feed and you'd get all the commercially goodness right there on your not-television. Just because they do not doesn't mean they shouldn't or can't.
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MourningView posted:Erin is actually about as good at that dumb job as you can be so she's sort of a weird way to prove that point. She's also at least in her mid 30s (maybe close to 40?) and has been covering sports for like 15 years now. I get that she's sort of the flag bearer for "attractive sideline white lady" but at this point is one of the most experience sideline reporters out there.
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Kwik posted:She's 36, and started with ESPN in 2004, so not exactly 15 years, but the point is still valid. She is one of the most experienced at the job. Still doesn't excuse how Fox has treated Pam Oliver. Sure, but she didn't start at ESPN. She was covering sports prior to that.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Alright, which pairing is worse? Joe Buck learned how to emote sometime in the last 10 years, and he's become one of the better play by play guys around. It's painful and terrible to have said that.
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Mahoning posted:Hey guys, Joe Buck will be calling US Open golf next year. Joe Buck and golf deserve each other.
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Watching Rich Eisen talk is just crushing.
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Vertical Lime posted:Eisen pulled off another tribute by doing Colts-Bengals highlights in Stu's style: That's very cool. It also highlights what I hate about the NFL Network highlights. Shut up and stop saying random poo poo while Rich Eisen is trying to talk. Yes we all know he's doing Stuart Scott's stuff.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah it was right before the Internet made the show kind of irrelevant, since over time you could watch those clips online instead. But SportsCenter was huge during that time. "Right before" isn't really the right way to say it. The years kind of roll together now, but SportsCenter as people my age probably think about it was THE relevant all-encompassing north american sports show for like 15 years. The 90s through ~2005 or so, probably. For most of that time SC was actually about showing highlights of stuff. I mean, Eisen was there from 96-03 and went right to NFL Network. gently caress, YouTube didn't exist until 2005. People definitely weren't putting up comprehensive highlights before that. gently caress, Rich Eisen's been at NFL Network for over 10 years. Man SportsCenter used to be so good. 
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MourningView posted:They have aired poker, darts, pool, driving in cars, golf, bowling, people riding in a bus playing madden, dogs jumping, people riding horses, people throwing logs, magic the gathering, soccer, scrabble, people eating lots of hot dogs, and a loving spelling bee. They air lots of things that are not strictly speaking sports, and the world hasn't ended yet. They have a lot of hours to fill, and at least it's not Skip Bayless Yelling. Chill the heck out, internet. Exactly. My love for 1990s ESPN 2 isn't because they had Important Sports Personalities letting me know which sports I should care about. It's because they had Aussie Rules Football and Lumberjack Games and World's Strongest Man and loving trickshot pool that they made into an event somehow. Please give me all the weird sports and games. The less desks and studio mics I see, and the more insane competitions they show, the happier I'll be. e: seriously watch this dumb poo poo and not Cowherd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN6dhpUMVTc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ycSMrDN5c Badfinger fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Hockles posted:I've been wondering this for like 20 years. When somebody puts crazy spin on a billiards ball.. Same pronunciation as the last syllable in "melee". It's a long "A"
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Benne posted:Either way, the show was a ratings bust so that's probably the end of that experiment. I'd have probably tuned in if I had known it was happening. I saw on twitter that ESPN was doing a video games thing and I went to their streaming service because I assumed it would be there.
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Dango Bango posted:I was catching up on this thread and thought exactly this when Summeral's name came up. He flubbed names left and right and was audibly confused at points during the games. That's old guy Summerall, though. I get that sometimes it's time to move on, but Joe Buck was born monotone. Summerall started broadcasting in 1962, was paired up with Madden before I was born, and was inducted into the broadcaster HoF before FOX won out the rights to broadcast football. He was pretty good for a pretty long time. He was a recovered alcoholic, that's true.
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zakharov posted:Colin Cowherd with another scorching hot take Actual consequences from Cowherd being a shithead: MLBPA might withhold cooperation from ESPN & Fox until the situation gets resolved somehow. H/T Hardball Talk http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2015/07/24/mlb-players-association-upset-colin-cowherds-comments-dominicans-espn/30605259/ quote:It wasn’t only Dominicans who were offended by Cowherd’s implication that players from that nation are not smart. The players association has not issued a formal statement, but a person close to the union assailed Cowherd’s professionalism and termed the comments ignorant and offensive.
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soggybagel posted:Colin Cowherd = Jon Stewart. I don't actually understand what the equivalency is, aside from white men on television.
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howe_sam posted:Well sure, but Vin is also more of a PBP guy, and that's never required a background in playing the game. She played elite softball for like a decade. There is nuance and difference between softball and baseball but it's not like she doesn't have a lifetime of experience playing a ball bat diamond sport at the highest level she could.
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Luigi Thirty posted:So I guess the entire internet had a meltdown about a feeeeemale broadcasting the Wild Card game because she's not a former player and therefore has no idea what baseball is even about. Did anyone famous poo poo their pants on Twitter over it? I saw some screenshots of Atlanta radio hosts throwing fits and a whole bunch of morons ranting about feminism taking over ESPN. 1) Wait this happened AGAIN? I saw her on the broadcast and assumed it was a foregone conclusion that after she killed it in August/September she would be in the booth. 2) I mentioned this the last time we had this very sad and terrible conversation too, it is funny that "not a former player" applies even though she is very near the top of accomplishment in diamond/bat sport playing out of all available broadcasters. If you broaden that to all sports it becomes even more hilariously wrong. Like, my hometown broadcast team includes Former Major League Baseballer Ben Davis. Who the gently caress is Ben Davis, and who decided he is allowed to talk very stupidly about baseball for 7 months a year? Jessica Mendoza, please.
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ayn rand hand job posted:You'd be looking at a fundamental restructuring of just about every aspect and elimination of bowl games. I really don't believe this is true. They were able to incorporate a semifinal playoff game into the bowl structure without disrupting the previous 72 weeks of bowl games. You can insert the playoff games and remove the teams who qualified and keep the rest of the bowls exactly as they are. The inclusion of the 5-7 bowls doesn't affect the national championship, and the incorporation of a real playoff structure doesn't affect the 5-7 bowls.
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Harlock posted:It's going to be a sad day when Al Michaels stops doing NFL games. There's maybe 2-3 tolerable NFL pbp guys anymore. Joe Buck is objectively one of the best pro football pbp announcers and it's abhorrent that this fact is true.
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ElwoodCuse posted:The ratings for the NFL Draft and the Pro Bowl are intervention-level troubling The draft definitely. The Pro Bowl probably has less interest than the Senior Bowl and the drat combine. That's why it's one of the only things the NFL keeps loving with - moved to before the Super Bowl, changing locations, all that.
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That reminds me very much of the fake hats the NCAI made coming at it the other way a few years ago. http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/racism-of-sports-logos-put-into-context-by-american-indian-group/ http://www.ncai.org/resources/ncai-publications/Ending_the_Legacy_of_Racism.pdf Not knowing the National Congress of American Indians put those out made googling for this incredibly dangerous waters.
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^^^ Hooooly poo poo they're gonna lose so much money on that contract.Benne posted:In this thread making fun of hot takes, I'll make a take of my own: Jon Gruden is the Madden successor we've been waiting for. I agree with you. I had a glimmer of the same thought recently. Bear in mind, this is a world in which I think Joe Buck might actually be the best we can get for pro football pbp.
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MourningView posted:Al Michaels is still working so Joe Buck is not even particularly close to being to best lead play by play guy calling games for a major network Sorry, I was thinking about the foreseeable future rather than the present. I'm with you on Al Michaels. For all we know Al might go another 15 years, but part of me doubts it. quote:That is a disgusting act. That was over a decade ago astonishingly. He's managed to call a few reasonable ballgames between then and now.
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Anals of History posted:This is super depressing and entirely accurate. That's much more a reflection of the football than the alternative.
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Sash! posted:Who the hell is watching someone play video games? Riot's presentation is better than any sports broadcast on Fox Sports 1. Again, this is not hyperbole. They have an Inside The NFL-type show, a fantasy show, pre-game, post game, and they sell out the Staples Center faster than any team in LA can. It's because they're extremely slickly produced competitions. They're sporting events, but instead of showing you something you think you can never do, they show you something you think you could maybe do. It taps the massive demographic of "people who play video games" which is everyone on the planet with electricity. This entire loving forum watches wrestling for 9 hours a week for some reason. It baffles me that watching something that has actual competitive stakes continues to be met with confusion.
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AsInHowe posted:Okay, let me stop you right there. I don't disagree with you, but I was addressing why someone would watch a video game, not why someone would watch it on ESPN or if ESPN is smart to buy coverage rights. quote:Even if there's "good" demand for eSports, no loving way is there $500 million for one game demand. I would be willing to bet the demand in total ad revenue etc is actually significantly higher than 500m over whatever 5-7 years, but probably not on ESPN. You'd miss the market outside of North America, which is very large.
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