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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I liked the Batman 'Book of the Death' one Isn't that the bizarre Ancient Aliens one? Where Egypt was ruled by aliens and the myths about their gods were based on real people. Of course one of their gods was a Batman-esque one and Bruce Wayne gets his suit. E the Shaggy posted:The "Batman is a vampire" trilogy is way better than it has any right to be. I thought the first one was pretty crappy but the second and third are good.
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The biggest problem with Elseworlds comics in general was too often they ended up with things basically turning out like they usually do. Do anything they want with Kal-El or Bruce Wayne and by the end of the story they end up as Superman and Batman. That's probably why I like the vampire Batman series the best. There is no happy ending to it where Batman just is Batman as a vampire (except for the first one, which is the worst.)
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Sep 2, 2013 21:03
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SirDan3k posted:The same reason Green Lantern's technology based ring failed in JLA: Act of God, plot necessity. It's a little extra stupid with Martian Manhunter though since he couldn't produce offspring with humans and his survival would have no effect on the plot. Yeah, Act of God is full of stupid stuff like aliens losing their abilities even though its just something that their race has and wouldn't be considered a "superpower" on their world. The other annoying thing about Act of God is that nobody took losing their powers gracefully. Clark and Lois split up because he has a breakdown, Wonder Woman for some reason becomes hardcore Christian, Kyle Rayner becomes an insane shut in who ends up dying in a fight with a villain, etc. As for Marvel, for some reason they almost never actually do "Elseworld" style stories where you take a character and put them in a different setting. Instead they focused more on the whole What If? thing where they explore how things could have gone differently. Maybe because Marvel integrated their multiverse more than DC. Off the top of my head though for Marvel "Elseworld" style stories there are the Noir books where they reimagine characters as if they lived in the 20s. muscles like this! fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Sep 3, 2013 |
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Sep 3, 2013 03:14
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Gavok posted:One Elseworlds that always bugged me was JLA: Destiny by John Arcudi. It's an okay miniseries with an awesome hook: Jor-El and Thomas Wayne survived instead of their sons. That on its own could sell a story. Its a really weird book because, as you said, there are so many characters that are different for no apparent reason. Probably the stupidest thing in the book though is the Manhunter/Manhunter reveal where you find out that the guy who was Manhunter had actually died and was replaced by J'onn pretending to be him.
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Sep 3, 2013 15:58
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Probably the worst "Superman must become Clark Kent by the end" Elseworld is Superman, Inc. In that one Superman is adopted by the Suderman family and named Dale. When his powers start to manifest he accidentally causes his mother's death. The trauma causes him to subconsciously repress his powers so instead of being superhuman he instead is just slightly faster, stronger and tougher than average. He uses his abilities to become a basketball superstar nicknamed Superman (he also just happens to use the "S" shield as his team logo.) There's this whole thing about Luthor exposing him as an alien while J'onn helps him through the trauma of his adopted mother's death. Earlier in the book Superman's best friend Marcus Clark is killed in a plane crash and also Superman meets the Kents when they help him recover after an injury. In the end Superman leaves a message stating that he's going to go look for his home world and is leaving all of his money to charity. All in all an okay story, a little heavy on the coincidence but whatever. That's all ruined by the last page where we see Superman, wearing glasses, signing up for a journalism class under the name Clark Kent.
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Sep 4, 2013 21:06
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Endless Mike posted:Good question. It's weird because JLA/Avengers was legitimate DC continuity that had some references to it later on, which is one of the few times that's happened with an intercompany crossover. (I guess there was also the WildCATS/Aliens crossover, too.) The Darkness/Batman also was super important to The Darkness as that's the story which sets off his whole conflict with his Organized Crime family and drove the story for quite a bit of the first series.
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Sep 7, 2013 16:31
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Mind Loving Owl posted:Fantastic Four: The End is an interesting little premise. Basically a lot of people have wondered why Reed hasn't let any of his technology filter into civilian life. In this universe the deaths of Franklin and Valeria the Richards drift apart but in the process turn the Solar System into a futuristic utopia. Any other comics that've had super-scientists actually use their tech for wider society? The JLA/Planetary Elseworlds has Elijah and crew spreading tech all over the world in order to control it. Its an interesting comic since it has Elijah and the Planetary organization take the place of the Four in the DC universe. Also because it has an appearance of the time travel device that Ellis doesn't use until 7 years later when he actually finishes the series.
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Sep 10, 2013 04:18
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Mind Loving Owl posted:One of things you described should have seemed really weird to me, and something did.., but it's that Superman has two sons, can't think of new names and yet doesen't name one Jonathan. Silver Age Supermen never seemed to care much about his human family did he? You know that famous monologue from the end of Kill Bill? That's pretty accurate for Silver Age Superman. A lot of the time he was written as Superman, first and foremost and didn't really care about Clark Kent as an individual person. It probably didn't help that pre-Crisis he always had powers, unlike now where he's written as being mostly human as a child and not gaining his abilities until around puberty.
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Sep 11, 2013 20:50
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Not "elseworlds" per se, but there was an ongoing Spider-Girl series that took place in an alternate universe. Also all of the 2099 books.
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Sep 16, 2013 04:08
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picosecond posted:Does anyone remember an Elseworlds where a mentally slow kid who loves Batman dresses up as him to fight his sister's drug dealer boyfriend? It might've been part of that Realworlds thing. I liked the Superman Realworlds issue which was basically the life story of a guy who unwillingly gets a full sized S shield across his chest.
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Sep 20, 2013 23:49
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Technically he doesn't land in a different spot in The Nail, the Kent's just don't find him.
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Sep 26, 2013 18:18
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The funny thing about the Episode IV one is how after the failure to destroy the Death Star Obi Wan shows up to Luke and tells him to go to Dagobah to see Yoda. Except he goes in the Falcon and Han short circuits the whole "who's Yoda?" scene early by figuring it out and telling Luke that Yoda's bullshitting him.
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Oct 6, 2013 20:24
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Lurdiak posted:That's part of how elseworlds tend to put the main universe on a pedestal. Any deviation from Superman and Batman's traditional roles usually end disastrously and either something resembling the status quo is restored at the end, setting things right, or someone looks into the distance and is like "man, we sure should have formed the Justice League instead". It's all very strange to me, just like how almost every time an Elseworlds has a truly evil Superman, it never turns out to be Clark, as if he was genetically virtuous. Thats kind of an annoying bit in the one where Superman is raised on Apokolips. Despite being raised by Darkseid to be the ultimate dominator once he gets to Earth he decides to be a good guy.
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Nov 15, 2013 12:49
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Didn't Lois and Clark only get married because of the show?
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Nov 27, 2013 02:47
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The ANH one wasn't that Luke missed, but that the torpedo was bad and blew up too early.
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McSpanky posted:It's too bad the obvious third issue of the trilogy never got made, where Jor-El comes to Earth after Luthor destroys Krypton and becomes that hosed-up world's ersatz Superman (presumably). There was an elseworld where Joe-El came to Earth, sent Luthor into space and impersonated him.
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It's his phone autocorrect brother.
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