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Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


I don't know mate, I own an unopened Squalo. :(

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Condoleezza Nice!
Jan 4, 2010

Lite som Robin Hood
fast inte
Squalo being that horrible Armored Cav, right? I'm so sorry, Flipswitch. :(

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


For those not following the TG Kickstarters thread, Wargames Bakery have released an infinity-styled basing pad as one of the stretch goals of their kickstarter (they're basically resin molds that you press greestuffed bases against).



Looks good, but the pricing is a bit steep for non-UK backers. 46 hours to go on the kickstarter, it's already more than funded so they'll no doubt be available for regular sale later.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Man some of those designs are crazy busy.

I played some Infinity today!

I played Bakunin! and my list sucked. I think I may end up having to cave and buy the Uberfall Tittyfurry model because it has legit rules in game. :(

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Just convert her into a hunting model instead of a sex toy?

Genghis Cohen
Jun 29, 2013

Flipswitch posted:

Man some of those designs are crazy busy.

I played some Infinity today!

I played Bakunin! and my list sucked. I think I may end up having to cave and buy the Uberfall Tittyfurry model because it has legit rules in game. :(

What sort of army do you use? I have moved my nomads mostly to Corregidor, but I still really like some of the camo type bakunin models. Zeros, prowlers, both great units. Custodiers are one of the best and most useful hackers in the game IMO. Sin eaters are awesome and the perfect unit to cover camo infiltrators with.

I can't say I like morlocks or the furry thing much, but they would be cool tactically. How about Bran do Castro instead? A little conversion on him, no tail, helmet, maybe splice on some boots and he is an awesome idea. He's a 'triple zero' agent, ie he is Hanuman Bond. Mate of mine used him in a game once and he was the ultimate first turn assassin. Better than a fiday even, with that mobility.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
So finally gave Battlejesus Phoenix a try, and he passed with flying colors. He's amazing if your enemy likes to bring HI links or medium/light TAGs. Put him in cover from a distance and the B3 rocket launcher is a thing of beauty that will win you most firefights provided the enemy has no visor that pierces your ODD. He keeps them making flame saves again and again until they inevitably fail.

As long as you can see a leg or legal limb to start firing, he can put out so much template fire that even the scatters are good. Infinity is already a game that punishes bad deploys more harshly than most, and a linked ODD blast weapon really makes you feel sorry for the other guy.

I have to say that I really like the way they built the linkable Homeridae. They really make taking Achilles optional since you can get his firepower (Eudoros) or melee prowess (Ajax) cheaper and linked, but not as durable.

Has anyone given Machaon a go? I'm not sure how he'd word (linked with Ajax to keep him going?) since his use of the Doctor skill breaks links.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Sephyr posted:

since his use of the Doctor skill breaks links.
Err what? Do Aleph links function differently in this regard? I thought that only using the G: Servant bot kicks the doctor out of the link, not normal doctoring.

Also, rocket launchers don't scatter IIRC.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Sep 15, 2013

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Docs don't break link, only if they use G;Sync bots do doc, then they break the link. Rockets also do not scatter, if they miss they deactivate and do not detonate.

Genghis Cohen posted:

What sort of army do you use? I have moved my nomads mostly to Corregidor, but I still really like some of the camo type bakunin models. Zeros, prowlers, both great units. Custodiers are one of the best and most useful hackers in the game IMO. Sin eaters are awesome and the perfect unit to cover camo infiltrators with.

I can't say I like morlocks or the furry thing much, but they would be cool tactically. How about Bran do Castro instead? A little conversion on him, no tail, helmet, maybe splice on some boots and he is an awesome idea. He's a 'triple zero' agent, ie he is Hanuman Bond. Mate of mine used him in a game once and he was the ultimate first turn assassin. Better than a fiday even, with that mobility.
JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF BAKUNIN
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 10 0 0

REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 38)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 11)
SIN-EATER Mk12 / Pistol, CCW. (29)
PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 32)
ZERO (Deployable Repeater) E/Mauler, Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 24)
ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
REVEREND MOIRA HMG / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1.5 | 39)
REVEREND MOIRA MULTI Rifle + E/M Light Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Shock CCW. (1 | 45)
REVEREND MOIRA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, CCW. (30)
REVEREND MOIRA Combi Rifle + E/Mitter / Pistol, CCW. (30)

5 SWC | 297 Points

Open with Army 4

Is my list. Basically, skirmishing elements, plus Moira link team. I own very little in the way of Bakunin at the moment, basically what I posted, +3 more Moderators and the full team of Riot Grrls which I haven't used yet. I'll post up my thoughts on the list in a bit, but I just need to play Bakunin a lot more. Positives include his O-Yoroi being unable to traverse the map due to E/M poo poo everywhere. YEAH.

Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Sep 15, 2013

Zhent
Oct 18, 2011

The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.
A couple friends introduced me to this game yesterday as an alternative to 40k - they have both pretty much moved into Infinity exclusively at this point, so I'm looking at picking up some models and joining them.

I read the descriptions of the different factions in the OP and on the website, but its never broken down exactly what each faction does better/worse relative to the others. Is it possible to make a list to fit any playstyle out of each faction? I haven't actually played yet, so I'm looking for a starting list that will let me get into the game and learn the rules while still being somewhat competitive.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Zhent posted:

A couple friends introduced me to this game yesterday as an alternative to 40k - they have both pretty much moved into Infinity exclusively at this point, so I'm looking at picking up some models and joining them.

I read the descriptions of the different factions in the OP and on the website, but its never broken down exactly what each faction does better/worse relative to the others. Is it possible to make a list to fit any playstyle out of each faction? I haven't actually played yet, so I'm looking for a starting list that will let me get into the game and learn the rules while still being somewhat competitive.
Yeah I've yet to add that piece, but generally there are rough stereotypes to each faction, but for the most faction any faction can emulate any playstyle. List building in Infinity is very, very versatile, basically look into what you like the look of. It isn't like 40k where one faction does one thing really well.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

What a fascinatingly unusual cock. Now, allow me to show you my collection...
The great thing about Infinity is that it's one of the most well-balanced games I've ever played. Most factions can be built to do most things, some better than others. Given that each sectorial adds a new way to play a faction, it may be easier if you you list a playstyle/s you had in mind, and we could throw recommendations at you until you finally agree that the ALEPH has your best interests at heart, and it's time to upgrade to posthuman, disposable tool valued citizen!

Tardscream
Nov 3, 2007

Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.

Zhent posted:

A couple friends introduced me to this game yesterday as an alternative to 40k - they have both pretty much moved into Infinity exclusively at this point, so I'm looking at picking up some models and joining them.

I read the descriptions of the different factions in the OP and on the website, but its never broken down exactly what each faction does better/worse relative to the others. Is it possible to make a list to fit any playstyle out of each faction? I haven't actually played yet, so I'm looking for a starting list that will let me get into the game and learn the rules while still being somewhat competitive.

Just out of curiosity what factions do you like the look of at first glance and whats your favourite 40k faction(s)/ armystyle?

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Speaking of the OP. I'll be updating it some more tonight guys, am running some practice games for the guys at my LGS at the moment for an upcoming tournament and recording stats, then I'll add to the OP.

Zhent
Oct 18, 2011

The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time.
That sounds very welcome following a GW's method of game balance. I am leaning towards Haqqislam now, although Yujing also has a fair number of models that I am interested in. They look so good after painting space marines for years.

Tardscream
Nov 3, 2007

Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.
Noice! Corvus-belli makes such a nice refreshing change over GW because they actually seem to give a poo poo about their playerbase. Just be warned if you jump into the Hassassin sectional (probably better to start with just basic Haqq or YJ but the call of the sectional is pretty big usually because it gives you more focus) headfirst because of awesome models - they are probably one of the trickier sectionals to play. But on the other-hand just get whatever minis you think look cool, infinity is pretty well balanced that there is no bad choices! Well mostly.

Speaking of Yu-jing more generally however, what's the thoughts on Bao link-teams? Thinking of moving into the ISS eventally and I kinda want to use a Bao link instead of celestial guards mostly (because bao look amazing). The x-visors with shotguns/contenders combined with smoke by some celestial guard seems pretty cool. However their expensiveness/fragility if the enemy has MSV2 and the need for a pheasant seems a bit double-edged. The pheasant will allow me to get big money/obvious LT's like Sun-tzu and Hsien and provide some degree of close-up rambo TAG protection, but is it at all cost effective? Celestial guard links seem to be the thing everyone takes or Hsien links if they want to spend alot of points on smoke offensives.

Edit: Just quickly made of course and rough - but probably something along the lines of this:

Yu Jing - Imperial Service | 11 models
________________________________________________________

Combat Group #1
Bao BS (29|0)
Bao BS (29|0)
Bao BS (29|0)
Bao Sniper (36|1.5)
Imperial Agent Combi (43|0)
Sun Tze MULTI Lt (50|0)
Su-Jian (56|2)
Combat Group #2
Celestial Guard Smoke LGL (13|0.5)
Kuang Shi Chain (5|0)
Kuang Shi Chain (5|0)
Kuang Shi Chain (5|0)
________________________________________________________

300/300 points | 4/6 swc
open with Aleph Toolbox : http://goo.gl/gmj9Yk

or

Yu Jing - Imperial Service | 10 models
________________________________________________________

Bao BS (29|0)
Bao BS (29|0)
Bao BS (29|0)
Bao Sniper (36|1.5)
Imperial Agent Combi (43|0)
Hsien HMG (61|2)
Sun Tze MULTI Lt (50|0)
Celestial Guard Smoke LGL (13|0.5)
Kuang Shi Chain (5|0)
Kuang Shi Chain (5|0)
________________________________________________________

300/300 points | 4/6 swc
open with Aleph Toolbox : http://goo.gl/v7BS39

Either way I feel like Im missing out on cool stuff like sophotects and CG hackers.

Tardscream fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Sep 15, 2013

Acceptableloss
May 2, 2011

Numerous, effective and tenacious: We must remember to hire them next time....oh, nevermind.

Zhent posted:

Is it possible to make a list to fit any playstyle out of each faction? I haven't actually played yet, so I'm looking for a starting list that will let me get into the game and learn the rules while still being somewhat competitive.

I second this. A couple sentences about each faction and what they are better than others at would be super helpful. I've been reading through a bunch of infinity stuff recently and haven't been able to figure this out.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Zhent posted:

I read the descriptions of the different factions in the OP and on the website, but its never broken down exactly what each faction does better/worse relative to the others.

Acceptableloss posted:

I second this. A couple sentences about each faction and what they are better than others at would be super helpful. I've been reading through a bunch of infinity stuff recently and haven't been able to figure this out.

What did you say? I can't hear you. You wanna wall of text? Have a wall of text.

PANO :catholic:
Rocks: Many (good) TAGs, +1 BS across the board, good visors and special options. You're the best at shooting and shooting is the meat of the game.
Sucks: No warbands, a whole 1 skirmisher, many low-WIP units - poor specialists, lower mobility. Can't haul rear end across the board and has a harder time in scenario missions.

YU JING :awesome:
Rocks: +1 CC across the board, very varied and good HI (including robots that are so good they count as HI!), hellishly fast JSA, 5pt regular orderbots, good at lightning strikes and close-range firefights, good at low points. Excellent drop troop.
Sucks: JSA is a glass cannon, some expensive jack-of-all-trades units

HAQQISLAM :jihad:
Rocks: Regeneration, Religious, a fuckton of cheap regular HFTs, Haris as a second link-team that does not limit the first, excellent mercs in QK, Holo1 shenanigans, Impersonators
Sucks: seriously, Ghulams for 13pts? Plain rifles instead of combis, your TAG's a beast and hard to drive anywhere. Fidays work poorly against aliens. lovely and few remotes.

NOMADS :furcry:
Rocks: best hacking in the game, awesome specialists (you can airdrop engineers with helperbots!), fun terror units and warbands. Good vanilla troops in Corregidor. Excellent cheap/light TAGs. Nasty (if unfun) GML combos. Good remotes.
Sucks: almost everything has MOV 4-2 in Corregidor, few good HI, furries and bare-assed nuns

ARIADNA :clint:
Rocks: very cheap troops so you'll always outnumber your enemy, camo Tankhunters, cheap APHMGs, excellent infiltrators in Chasseurs (AVA 4 in sectorial!), can actually pull of CC-oriented tactics reliably, 99% of your stuff is hacking- and EMP-immune, artillery tankettes, Cameronians (hard as nails werewolves with smoke and 2 chain rifles)
Sucks: everything is low tech - plain rifles (no combis), no MSV2+, no TO camo (plenty of normal camo though), no hacking so you may be hosed if the enemy brings a GML, no TAGs/REMs, specialists don’t have helperbots. Furries.

ALEPH :awesomelon:
Rocks: Awesome tech, good remotes and TAG, synchronized bots, ODD/NWI out the wazoo, very tough units, many strong characters, Achilles is a human TAG, many link teams in sectorial, you’ll always resurrect your heroes in campaign
Sucks: Expensive points-wise, your link teams are limited to 4 members (can't make a normal one at all!), sectorial has no infiltrators/camo, Cube 2.0 does not work against CA (in fact you'll autofail evac rolls)

CA :cthulhu:
Rocks: The best tech in the game. The best TAG in the game. The best warband in the game. HIs are equal to other factions' TAGs. Lots and lots of awesome specialists. Hard to kill. Very versatile. Permanently take over enemy units or deploy 1" behind their TAG and slice it into pieces. Reaction drones with mimetism and monomines/plasma rifles. Batroids (well-armed defensive baggagebots)
Sucks: Very expensive points-wise. HI are priced like other factions' TAGs :v: Sectorials have very defined specializations and are poor at what they don't do. Overcosted line infantry. Speculo Killer may die horribly if the enemy does make the ARM roll. No "specialist" remotes (barring baggage ones)

TOHAA:turianass:
Rocks: Make lots of link teams even in vanilla. Link teams can be mixed (HI, engineer and HFT warband in one. Lots of flamers and viral weaponry. AVA 4 Neurocinetics! Symbiont armor grants a pseudo extra wound to many units. Excellent drop troop.
Sucks: All your link teams are limited to 3 members. Your symbiont units (including TAG) will die horribly if they fail even one ARM roll against fire. No active hacking to speak of. TAG seems lackluster (or did until Mulciber Gorgos-carped-bombed everyone last Gencon :v:)

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Sep 16, 2013

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

Pierzak posted:

What did you say? I can't hear you. You wanna wall of text? Have a wall of text.

PANO :catholic:
Rocks: Many (good) TAGs, +1 BS across the board, good visors and special options. You’re the best at shooting and shooting is the meat of the game.
Sucks: No warbands, a whole 1 skirmisher, many low-WIP units - poor specialists, lower mobility. Can't haul rear end across the board and has a harder time in scenario missions.

YU JING :china::hf::japan:
Rocks: +1 CC across the board, very varied and good HI (including robots that are so good they count as HI!), hellishly fast JSA, 5pt regular orderbots, good at lightning strikes and close-range firefights, good at low points. Excellent drop troop.
Sucks: JSA is a glass cannon, some expensive jack-of-all-trades units

HAQQISLAM :jihad:
Rocks: Regeneration, Religious, a fuckton of cheap regular HFTs, Haris as a second link-team that does not limit the first, excellent mercs in QK, Holo1 shenanigans, Impersonators
Sucks: seriously, Ghulams for 13pts? Plain rifles instead of combis, your TAG's a beast and hard to drive anywhere. Fidays work poorly against aliens. lovely and few remotes.

NOMADS :furcry:
Rocks: best hacking in the game, awesome specialists (you can airdrop engineers with helperbots!), fun terror units and warbands. Good vanilla troops in Corregidor. Excellent cheap/light TAGs. Nasty (if unfun) GML combos. Good remotes.
Sucks: almost everything has MOV 4-2 in Corregidor, few good HI, furries and bare-assed nuns

ARIADNA :scotland::hf::france::hf::ussr:
Rocks: very cheap troops so you’ll always outnumber your enemy, camo Tankhunters, cheap APHMGs, excellent infiltrators in Chasseurs (AVA 4 in sectorial!), can actually pull of CC-oriented tactics reliably, 99% of your stuff is hacking- and EMP-immune, artillery tankettes, Cameronians (hard as nails werewolves with smoke and 2 chain rifles)
Sucks: everything is low tech - plain rifles (no combis), no MSV2+, no TO camo (plenty of normal camo though), no hacking so you may be hosed if the enemy brings a GML, no TAGs/REMs, specialists don’t have helperbots. Furries.

ALEPH :awesomelon:
Rocks: Awesome tech, good remotes and TAG, synchronized bots, ODD/NWI out the wazoo, very tough units, many strong characters, Achilles is a human TAG, many link teams in sectorial, you’ll always resurrect your heroes in campaign
Sucks: Expensive points-wise, your link teams are limited to 4 members (can’t make a normal one at all!), sectorial has no infiltrators/camo, Cube 2.0 does not work against CA (in fact you'll autofail evac rolls)

CA :cthulhu:
Rocks: The best tech in the game. The best TAG in the game. The best warband in the game. HIs are equal to other factions’ TAGs. lots and lots of awesome specialists. Hard to kill. Very versatile. Permanently take over enemy units or deploy 1" behind their TAG and slice it into pieces. Reaction drones with mimetism, and monomines/plasma rifles. Batroids (actually well-armed defensive baggagebots)
Sucks: Very expensive points-wise. HI are priced like other factions’ TAGs :v: Sectorials have very defined specializations and are poor at what they don’t do. Overcosted line infantry. Speculo Killer may die horribly if the enemy does make the ARM roll. No "specialist" remotes (barring baggage ones)

TOHAA:turianass:
Rocks: Make lots of link teams even in vanilla. Link teams can be mixed (HI, engineer and HFT warband in one. Lots of flamers and viral weaponry. AVA 4 Neurocinetics! Symbiont armor grants a pseudo extra wound to many units. Excellent drop troop.
Sucks: All your link teams are limited to 3 members. Your symbiont units (including TAG) will die horribly if they fail even one ARM roll against fire. No active hacking to speak of. TAG seems lackluster (or did until Mulciber Gorgos-carped-bombed everyone last Gencon :v:)

I felt compelled.

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
What, no :911: as well?

Great summaries, Pierzak.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

bhsman posted:

What, no :911: as well?
:911: doesn't have a lovely hat to piss off USAriadna players :v:

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!

bhsman posted:

What, no :911: as well?

Great summaries, Pierzak.

:911: is the unloved kid brother of Ariadna that we never talk about. Seriously though, the US faction is fairly uninteresting so far, but we will see.


Seriously, look at this guy. Shameful.

Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 03:39 on Sep 16, 2013

Tardscream
Nov 3, 2007

Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.
Godamn heavy panzerfaust mate.

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

Indolent Bastard posted:

:911: is the unloved kid brother of Ariadna that we never talk about. Seriously though, the US faction is fairly uninteresting so far, but we will see.


Seriously, look at this guy. Shameful.

Random, but isn't this actually a woman, though?

Tardscream
Nov 3, 2007

Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.
No gratuitous cleavage windows or creepy T&A poses, lack of identifiable combat heels, so probably not.

Tardscream fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Sep 16, 2013

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010

Tardscream posted:

Godamn heavy panzerfaust mate.
Not heavy Panzerfaust, but light shotgun :v:

ed: Also, bare midriff. Definitely a woman.

Pierzak fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Sep 16, 2013

Tardscream
Nov 3, 2007

Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.
Let's just wait and see what bathroom he/she uses.

Cataphract
Sep 10, 2004

Fun Shoe
Ariadneuurgghh

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

The unit is the Minutemen, guys. How hard is this, guys? Minutemen, guys. It's ironclad.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


When I get home I'll copy and paste Pierzaks summary as I'm a lazy gobshite.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
Just link to it, I'll be improving it later. BTW it'd be great if you could add/correct anything about PanO.

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


It's actually quite accurate for the most part, thanks mate.

Acceptableloss
May 2, 2011

Numerous, effective and tenacious: We must remember to hire them next time....oh, nevermind.

Pierzak posted:

What did you say? I can't hear you. You wanna wall of text? Have a wall of text.

Words


Thanks for this. It's super helpful.

Pierzak
Oct 30, 2010
You're welcome.

Also, Flipswitch, can you put this map in the OP?

https://infinitypeople.herokuapp.com/

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Will do!

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!
Wow another player under 1 hour away! That is amazing. (Seriously it really is)

Flipswitch
Mar 30, 2010


Didn't know there was a Newport lad near me, cool! That's actually a very good website.

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable
There's only one other person on it in Manchester. Those two in Leeds don't know how lucky they are...

Adam Kensai
Feb 13, 2005
Have you heard the Go News?

Flipswitch posted:

Man some of those designs are crazy busy.

I played some Infinity today!

I played Bakunin! and my list sucked. I think I may end up having to cave and buy the Uberfall Tittyfurry model because it has legit rules in game. :(

Are there a lot of cheesecaky-y models? The initial draw for me, just based on a quick look around the website, is that the female soldiers actually look like soldiers instead of strippers in tear away soldier outfits.

Pierzak posted:

What did you say? I can't hear you. You wanna wall of text? Have a wall of text.

This is exactly what somebody needed to say to me to get me to go read the rules, thanks. I too went through the website and it was all theme information and no "how they feel to play."

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TastyAvocado
Dec 9, 2009

Adam Kensai posted:

Are there a lot of cheesecaky-y models? The initial draw for me, just based on a quick look around the website, is that the female soldiers actually look like soldiers instead of strippers in tear away soldier outfits.

You must not have looked very hard.

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