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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Though I believe it's only against attacks that target them. Our resident Haqqislam player loves to pop smoke with a Fiday, then calmly lay 3 mines near any link team it sees.

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Aaaaaaaaaaaand there it is in the FAQ. I'm noticing a trend. :v:

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Say what you want about Infinity's lovely combat heels and midriffs, at least there's not a Speculo Rape Diorama. :v:

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Cannot give enough love for the T-Train. Thrassy is so amazingly good for the points you pay, doubly good at deploying deep and putting shock bullets on Dogged/NWI Platforms.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Rumormill seems to be pointing towards a Nomad vs. PanO starter set.

Most pleasing.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Also isn't an ice storm just a blizzard :v:

Serious note, if this IS a 2 player starter box, I'm curious to see what's inside - Is there going to be terrain, as it's much needed for Infinity? Will the models be plastics or resins, or will it be a metal starter box?

Exciting!

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Sephyr posted:

I have picked the non-LT Deva more than once to bait people int thinking he was my LT, and used him to do base defense instead; between his field of vision and the Devabot's heavy flamer, they can cover a lot of the deploy zone against drop troops.

And ALEPH is really spoiled for choice when it comes to LT. Devas are reliable, Achilles is a fighty option, the Marut has Strategos 3 (and since it's going to be a huge target anyway, you don't lose much making it your lt if you have a CoC myrm too), Nesaie is a cheap 360° spirfire with good willpower and BS, Asuras fear no camo and the Myrm officer can get zero-v grenades so secure advance even against MSV3.

The only poor choices are the Ekdromoi lt, since you cannot drop him without going into LoL and he's wasted in the back, and Ajax because of his crappy Wip and no ODD for a model that is meant to be in front taking tons of risks.

Basically, other than lt's that grant +1SWC, the faction has it all.

Yes and no. Most ALEPH Lt's are fairly durable, yes, but also quite expensive. If they're going to hide, it can be a significant chunk of your points doing nothing.

They also suffer from being the most obvious Lt faction in the game. A canny opponent will figure out who your Lt is in Deployment with relative ease, and apart from Achilles and the Marut, none are so durable that they can really withstand assassination.

Of those listed, I think Myrm Officer is probably the best option. It's obvious, but it's still relatively cheap for a 2W ODD LT.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Dakini got nothin' on Ekdromoi wings.

gently caress Ekdromoi wings.

e: welp one of the little vents is lost to the carpet gods now

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Chain of Command is also the straight-up best Specialist ability for ITS, too. When losing your LT is so lethal in a 3 turn game, having that safety net when unexpected TO/AD comes to kill your mans is priceless.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Yeah, I got into ALEPH for the Indian side, but I'm patient. The Greeks don't super impress me aesthetically, but soon we will get our oodles of rad new sculpts, I'm sure.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Honestly, with the rate they're reworking Morat models, I'd wait. Worst case scenario is you prefer the old models and likely get to pick them up out of a discount bin when the new ones hit the shelf.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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I have to stop playing this game I'm assembling my fourth table. :negative:

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Pierzak posted:

No, you need to host a tournament.

I already do! Three years running, Total Reaction.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Not a viking posted:

Learned about Infinity from the painting and modelling thread. Just finished reading this whole thread front to back plus the rules. Decided to build an ALEPH army and proxy an Adriana army with some 40k chaos cultists and try to introduce this to my group to replace 40k kill team. Good job, thread!

Speaking as someone who started with ALEPH when a friend started with Ariadna, try not to use the Asura in your initial games. When you're still learning, MSV3 can be a very frustrating thing for an army that relies on camo markers to learn against.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Also worth finding some stuff to spend that excess 3 SWC on.

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Dec 17, 2009

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Not a viking posted:

Holy crap, deciding on which faction to pick is hard! I can't decide between shasvastii, kazaks, ISS, ALEPH or nomads (non-furry sectorial) :(

I think I need to see if there are actual players in my area first.

I'd like to at this junction point out the furry models (Chimeras and Pupniks) are some of the most fear-inducing units on the tabletop when your opponent starts muttering 'yiff yiff yiff' in a deep, sinister voice as he spends orders to advance towards you, dodging all the while.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Our local Shas player is all about the Speculo.

Sadly, a typical activation for the Speculo will go like this:

1: Move into combat with TAG
2: Miss Mono-filament Attack/TAG Passes Save
3: TAG turns Speculo into paste.

OR

1: Fire at valuable target/Cheerleader
2: Everything misses/Target passes saves
3: Get crit in return.

OR

1: Engage Cheerleader in Close Combat
2: Miss
3: Receive rifle butt to head

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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I can just imagine a Prowler infomercial advertising less-slippery grenades for when you fumble it and it bounces across the carpet, out the front window and into a Morlock's house.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Hoboskins posted:

Was fiddling around with the online army maker and came up with this list. Thoughts? My main concern is the number of bodies but 7 Camo markers and 3 miners seems really fun. Also Chassuers are so good.

ARIADNA
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 9 1 1

VETERAN KAZAKS Lieutenant (CH: Mimetism) AP HMG, Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (1 | 61)
TANKHUNTER Autocannon, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 40)
TANKHUNTER AP HMG, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 40)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Ambushed Camouflage) HMG / Pistol, CCW, Knife. (1.5 | 38)
SCOUT Ojótnik, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (26)
LOUP-GAROU Boarding Shotgun, Adhesive Launcher, Flash Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (19)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (9)
DOG-WARRIOR 2 Chain Rifles, Grenades, Smoke Grenades / AP CCW. (28)
CHASSEUR (Minelayer) Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20)
CHASSEUR Rifle, Light Flamethrower, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (19)

6 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4

I ran a very similar list with my Bakunin, and like most specialized lists it depends on who you're playing against. Haqqislam tend to rubbish you because cheap, impetuous, high-WIP jerks make a mockery of your camo and then the heavy-hitters light them up.

Conversely, against PanO, other Ariadna, ALEPH and Combined they tend to work a treat, the former's low WIP keeping your Camo relatively safe and the Autocannon/AP HMG more than capable of icing heavy threats. With Ariadna you just pick on the stuff you know's the power, as a bunch of line jerks with rifles can't do a huge amount.

Special Shout Out: Lists like this absolutely ruin Tohaa in my experience. Tohaa players tend to go link-crazy in my experience, and as links all have to react in the same manner, if they declare discover you can give them free bullets, and if they declare hold you just move on until you're close enough to pop out of camo and catch a bunch in delicious, delicious light flamethrowers.

e: The list in question:

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF BAKUNIN
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 8 0 0

ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
ZERO (Minelayer) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 19)
BRAN Combi Rifle+ E/Mitter / Pistol, DA CCW. (36)
PROWLER Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 32)
PROWLER Spitfire, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 37)
PROWLER Boarding Shotgun, Grenades, D-Charges / Pistol, CCW. (32)
REVEREND CUSTODIER Hacker (Hacking Device Plus) Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 38)

GROUP 2 5 2 2

MODERATOR Spitfire / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 16)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (9)
MODERATOR Combi Rifle + Marker / Pistol, Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 11)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)
MORLOCK Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (7)

5.5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Unless it's MSV3 I wouldn't worry a huge amount, as they can ignore the penalties all they want if you get the drop on them. Asura's not too bad to deal with, either - They start to drop off at 24", so if you can get eyes on her with the Autocannon from a decent distance in cover, you'll likely have the dice advantage.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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It wasn't a list played for anything but 'killy fun times' so specialists seemed moot.

Bran's mostly there to fit as much camo in as possible - The intimidation factor of putting down 10 camo markers at game start makes people pause!

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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I'm a big fan of the CSU model as well. I've loved Briefcase/Laptop guns since I played Perfect Dark on the 64 as a kid.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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If the battlemat turns out to be 2x4 I'll likely buy two just for a complete 4x4 of terrain.

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Dec 17, 2009

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Swagger Dagger posted:

I'm watching the unboxing video, and it looks like it's a 2x4 mat. The Corvus Belli dude says the terrain pack (mat + card structures) will be sold separately, so you don't have to buy two whole starter sets unless you just want to.

THAT'S awesome. What a fantastically player-focused move.


And I know we all know Angel Giraldez is an amazing painter, but holy poo poo the quality of painting the stockings on that model is incredible.

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Hmmm, unless 'Dodge' recieves the surprise penalty as well, this looks like a significant nerf to Camo.

And a significant buff to Chain Rifles, Total Reaction and Neurocinetics.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Some big winners with these weapon changes. I'm looking at you, Riot Grrl with Boarding Shotgun & Flash Grenades.

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Dec 17, 2009

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Seriously. 29 points for MSV1 (And if that cancels the surprise bonus, then dodge all day against Camo thanks to your Hyperdynamics 1), 4-4, 2 Wounds, such a tidy package.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Corbeau posted:

The sniper rifle advantage over the HMG is more pronounced in N3 though. From a 4" superior bracket to a 16" superior bracket (not even counting the range at which an HMG can't fire at all) is pretty substantial. Yeah, you're not going to use it in the active turn much, but I don't see that as a thematic problem for a sniper rifle.

I don't know why they'd ever put the profile on a drop troop, but I think that's an issue with unit design rather than the sniper rifle.

e: Also, I do see a fair amount of shooting happen around or above 32". It's not the standard engagement range - usually fighting happens either at point blank or around 20-30" - but there are usually positions where you can take advantage of such range on our tables here. From the look of table pics from the interplanetary, CB seems to expect much more open tables than a lot of people build for Infinity. Nudging N3 in that direction actually isn't a bad marketing decision, since it means players can get into the game with lower terrain expenses.

Terrain density also heavily affects the meta. In the very dense Australian (well, Melbourne) meta, things like Pretas, Muttuiah and Kum Bikers are living nightmares of models for incredibly low, low points costings. When a Muttuiah can make it's way across the table with only rolling one save, Snipers don't have a huge amount of value due to the poor firing lanes.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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The Cutter is still quite good - You just won't be able to hug things while HMG'ing them.

Truly, it is the Marut that has won out in these changes.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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I think AD HMGs still have their place; downgrade to AD2 and enter from the better board edge for bandings and order pool devouring.

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Dec 17, 2009

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Deviant posted:

I mean, I play ALEPH. So that means I *need* this Ajax I just bought, right?

Ajax is literally the most fun model to use in ALEPH. Impetuous, cheap, durable, rolls many dice, and is only going to get better with the new bandings. Throws down like a champ. I'm worried he's becoming a crutch for me.

The only downside of him is that the concept art was a bearded black man, and the actual model is a clean-shaven white guy.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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I'm not sure about MayaNet, but Ajax is Regular Impetuous.

Deviant posted:

Q2: When someone has 2 weapons, like Ajax, do they get to fire them both? i.e. 2 combi rifles for 6 shots?

The burst increases by 1. So Ajax fires B4 combis in his active turn, b5 in a link.

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Dec 17, 2009

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Deviant posted:

I believe you, this is just what Mayanet is showing me, which is irritating.




Again, I believe you, but can you quote me a page number? I have to be able to justify that to my buddy.

Edit: I guess it's in the "New Rules" PDF? Ugh, this is confusing, and the wiki didn't exactly make that clear.

Here you go!

http://infinitythegame.wikispot.org/Dual_Weaponry

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Deviant posted:

Thanks. Maybe I'll bring him. We're playing a "low fuckery" game on Sunday, so I don't want anything too complex to remember or explain.

Thankfully, Ajax is about as straightforward as it gets with ALEPH. He is the bluntest of instruments and the terror factor of 'You can't stop this Dam 16 Explosive attack' if he makes close combat is huge.

e: Important thing for an ALEPH player to note, as it doesn't come up much, but you can spend an order from the pool to prevent an Impetuous order. If he would jump around the corner into a Viral Sniper Rifle, it might be wise to hold.

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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That's very true, but lots of people try to paint 'codex' in Infinity, if that makes sense.

At least that's the case in my area.

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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As in, hits multiple people? Then no. Weapons specifically state if they use a template (Either Small Teardrop, Large Teardrop or Circular), and no close combat weapon does.

If you mean thematically how does he swing it, he swings with enough force to oneshot an Avatar. Ajax's hammer is the hardest-hitting weapon in the game. :black101:

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Pierzak posted:

Riiight, 6 DMG EXP CCW? I'll stick with my monofilament, thanks.

Hey, a third of the time he will autowound at least once! :v:

(I know Monofilament is better for removing an Avatar or Jotums, the :siren:FORGED NARRATIVE:siren: is just too incredible. The biggest he's ever got for me was a Cutter in two swings.)

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Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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Genuine Narrative: Achilles punked an Avatar in close combat in the fluff. I'm not sure if it was awful fluff or :black101:

Clawtopsy
Dec 17, 2009

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That he's wearing Chucks is the best.

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Dec 17, 2009

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The Avatar deserved a HMG nerf! I mean, now I've got a good chance to kill it if I get within eight anD STOP RESISTING OUR GLORIOUS EVOLVED ALLIES, FOR THEY ARE THE ONE TRUE WAY FORWARD.

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