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Roland Jones posted:How hard is it to learn Dom3/4 modding? An idea I had for a mod was, well, basically something that tried to bring the bad nations up to the level of the good ones (and possibly bring the absurd ones down a peg or two) without going to AwesomeMod levels or drastically changing their feel. I like both yours and Ninja's ideas, but as you say, you guys put your own spins on them. I think it'd be kind of neat to be able to play all the nations the way they're "meant" to be (loosely speaking; I mean something close to their vanilla incarnations basically), minus the horrible sucking. We tried to do this for the five(ish) worst nations in each age - making them not terrible. Not making them good, just making them playable. It's way more difficult than you would think to make a nation just OK vs making them OP.
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First time seeing this, and it may be (may be!) super relevant for Mictlan Blood Hunting in Amazon provinces, if nothing else: While buying PD as Machaka in a Lion Tribe province, I noticed the green "Friendly civilization" note on the PD card.   Assuming this isn't just a Machaka thing, anyways.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:14
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I remember having ridiculous expansion and rolling over everyone with CBM W9 Black Hunters and then they just kept making Machaka stronger and stronger 
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Sep 5, 2013 22:14
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builds character posted:We tried to do this for the five(ish) worst nations in each age - making them not terrible. Not making them good, just making them playable. It's way more difficult than you would think to make a nation just OK vs making them OP. A lot of the worst nations weren't really bad on the level of cost and efficiency, but on conceptual levels. Sometimes i can think of things that would really help without being absurd (EA Agartha's oracles should have more than 1 in their loving relevant paths), but i'm really at a loss to think of what would make Abysia or MA Oceania good while still being recognizable.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:15
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So how is multiplayer at the moment? Trying to decide if I should get it now or hold off.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:23
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team overhead smash posted:So how is multiplayer at the moment? Trying to decide if I should get it now or hold off. The game isn't officially released yet.... Sooooo nonexistant.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:27
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Tulip posted:A lot of the worst nations weren't really bad on the level of cost and efficiency, but on conceptual levels. Sometimes i can think of things that would really help without being absurd (EA Agartha's oracles should have more than 1 in their loving relevant paths), but i'm really at a loss to think of what would make Abysia or MA Oceania good while still being recognizable. MA Aby was pretty good! For all the UW nations we made everything amphib for a start. For ea aby (and anyone with high elemental paths, really , we made a spell that was half regular damage and half elemental damage. So your f4-5 mages aren't totally useless after a five gem ring.
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Sep 5, 2013 22:54
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Lilli posted:The game isn't officially released yet.... Sooooo nonexistant. Not true - I have a pair of beta games up at the Goon Game Service waiting for players. We'll probably have to restart the games once or twice as patches come out, but if you've preordered and gotten the beta. . .
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Sep 5, 2013 22:56
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Victor Vermis posted:Assuming this isn't just a Machaka thing, anyways. Mictlan gets friendly civ bonuses to their PD in Jaguar Tribe provinces. Regarding multiplayer, I don't think there's anything keeping people from just emailing a full save folder back and forth even if it turns out the beta can't do normal PBEM. Of course, that ends up being really slow in games with more than 2 human players.
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Sep 6, 2013 01:27
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Do you guys think that Luck +1 is worth getting? Compared to Dominions 3, there are 1500 events compared to 500. Even if I set events to rare and not put any points into turmoil and luck, I get events about 2/3rds of the time.
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Sep 6, 2013 03:13
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Is there a way to make sure that commanders stay in a group? I can put commanders under another commander in Conquest of Elysium, but I'm not sure how to achieve the same here.
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Sep 6, 2013 03:39
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Anticheese posted:Is there a way to make sure that commanders stay in a group? I can put commanders under another commander in Conquest of Elysium, but I'm not sure how to achieve the same here. Ctrl select?
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Sep 6, 2013 04:04
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Anticheese posted:Is there a way to make sure that commanders stay in a group? I can put commanders under another commander in Conquest of Elysium, but I'm not sure how to achieve the same here. Hold down control while clicking on commanders and you can sort-of group them. Shift works for grouping large blocks of commanders. You cannot put a commander under the control of another commander, however.
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Sep 6, 2013 04:04
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TestRandom: Mightypeon, Fleur Bleu, Korwin and Roland Jones need to put in their pretenders so we can kick this off. 
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Sep 6, 2013 04:51
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Kenlon posted:TestRandom: Submitted mine.
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Sep 6, 2013 06:22
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Just bought the game and im currently squealing with joy over the new sprite art it looks fantastic. Going to take a while to get used to the new UI though its actually giving me a headache due to the size and making me feel a little sick. Also noticing little things like there always seems to be mercenaries on turn one now and how you can no longer alchemise some extra gold at the start as a nation with fire or earth access + a mage to squeeze out some more units.
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Sep 6, 2013 07:28
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Korwin posted:Submitted mine. And mine. amuayse posted:Do you guys think that Luck +1 is worth getting? Compared to Dominions 3, there are 1500 events compared to 500. Even if I set events to rare and not put any points into turmoil and luck, I get events about 2/3rds of the time. You seem to get a lot of revolts and indie attacks with low pd now. If luck helps with that, it'd be pretty useful.
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Sep 6, 2013 12:14
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Fleur Bleu posted:And mine. Are they targeting the low pd provinces? That would be wonderful.
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Sep 6, 2013 12:30
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I think so, some events even specifically mention the low pd. Also, in an 11 pd province I got an event informing me that they'd caught a guy scouting for an attack and the barbs actually turned up next turn.
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Sep 6, 2013 13:04
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Is there a list of changes from Dom3 all in one place somewhere? This sounds like more of the same, but a huge awesome upgrade patch ed: Also, someone make a Luck3/Turmoil3 race and post the event screens 
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Sep 6, 2013 13:17
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"The repell system is reworked. Long weapons are now actually useful. With several long weapons in a square and a low mrl unit attacking you can be pretty sure no one attacks you. So go for barbarians and animals with your pikes. Pikes might well defeat sword and shield units of similar skill lvls. Difference in weapon length is important (up to 3 i think)." http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=1562&st=15 Ulm's pike and axemen are REALLY good now.
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Sep 6, 2013 13:19
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Fleur Bleu posted:You seem to get a lot of revolts and indie attacks with low pd now. If luck helps with that, it'd be pretty useful. Is there still a cap on the # of events per turn?
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Sep 6, 2013 14:13
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Please tell me there is some way to make elements of the UI bigger, the tiny tiny unit trait icons and such are doing my head in and im still getting headaches and nausea from playing the game, if the UI was just a little bigger it would be amazing.
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Sep 6, 2013 15:59
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Is there still a cap on the # of events per turn? Maybe, but it's more than three now.
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Sep 6, 2013 16:28
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LordLeckie posted:Please tell me there is some way to make elements of the UI bigger, the tiny tiny unit trait icons and such are doing my head in and im still getting headaches and nausea from playing the game, if the UI was just a little bigger it would be amazing. > and < to Change the size of the commander Icons, but appart from that, If there is something more. I want to know myself too...
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Sep 6, 2013 18:06
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Hey did somebody mention that you can now recruit mages that will automatically be set to research?
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Sep 6, 2013 18:32
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There are an enormous amount of quality of life improvements, it's a lot of fun finding all the new stuff.
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Sep 6, 2013 18:36
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Why are people saying MA Abysia is unplayable in dom3?
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Sep 6, 2013 18:47
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Warlocks don't have high enough random paths (2 10% picks is useless). Hard to blood-hunt with cap-only mages. Dragons are too expensive, and don't get any cross-paths. Old age. Few F2 spells good enough for Salamanders to be useful in battle. Fire resist makes them both useless. Heavy infantry too slow to recruit in early game & has bad mapmove in late game. Also have enc problems.
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Sep 6, 2013 19:03
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Because they're wrong?
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WYA posted:Why are people saying MA Abysia is unplayable in dom3? I have no idea. They aren't a powerhouse but they are a blood nation and you can do a hell of a lot more with them than you can with the true losers of MA like Agartha and Ulm.
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Sep 6, 2013 19:07
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And then someone casts Burden of Time and Abysia's the first to lose all their poo poo.
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Sep 6, 2013 19:10
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TestRandom: Mightypeon still has not uploaded a pretender, and so we can actually get this game going before they patch again and we have to restart, I've kicked him.
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dis astranagant posted:And then someone casts Burden of Time and Abysia's the first to lose all their poo poo. To be fair, BoT always fucks over a lot of nations including the mighty MA Agartha. At least Abysia has the Demonbred so they don't have all of their mages die.
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Kenlon posted:TestRandom: So wait, when I asked yesterday I was told it's a beta so no multiplayer but you guys seem to be trying to start a multiplayer game. What's going on?
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Sep 6, 2013 20:46
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There aren't a ton of games happening because it's a beta and new patches might/will probably break old saves, but some of us are dumb and impatient so we're going to play one anyway.
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I've set up a pair of beta games using version 3.99f (the current desura version) on the Goon Game Service. The MA game just started up, and the EA game still has open slots. If they both fill and people are interested, I'll also put up a LA one.
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WYA posted:Why are people saying MA Abysia is unplayable in dom3? Because i'm particularly bad at fire nations and also i was too lazy to specify that MA is better than EA or LA and just said "Abysia" because i wanted an example of a conceptually poor nation other than MA Oceania. And conceptually bad doesn't mean unplayable - it just means that making them good would make them very, very different.
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Tulip posted:Because i'm particularly bad at fire nations and also i was too lazy to specify that MA is better than EA or LA and just said "Abysia" because i wanted an example of a conceptually poor nation other than MA Oceania. And conceptually bad doesn't mean unplayable - it just means that making them good would make them very, very different. You should try both DE and WM. 
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Holy crap, LA Pythium is nice, all the heretics & 'frontier' troops available without a fort. MM3 Comitatense and MM2 Palatines available at every fort and a MM3 standard to go with them.
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