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8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I don't understand the motorcycle thing. If I'm just cruising along I hate being tailgated and will do anything to let fast cars get by because I don't trust them not to rear end me.

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8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Weinertron posted:

I frequently heard that this would be a bad, bad thing in cars with most of the weight central and that I should slowly let off the throttle to avoid snap oversteer. Of course, the examples I can think of come from a friend of mine who has only driven MR vehicles and managed to snap oversteer a supercharged minivan off the road and is now daily driving a pre-1993 AW20 MR2.

Edit: Also a coworker oversteered a 964 into a wall and came in telling all of us "never ever lift off throttle in a turn".

Depends on the car and the drivetrain. In his case braking moved weight to the front and allowed the front wheels to fight off the under steer. On a rear engined car that probably would have turned understeer into epic oversteer.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Terrible Robot posted:

I was on the highway earlier, going the speed limit because it was foggy and raining. Started gaining on an early '00s Galant with a burned out headlight, moved over to pass, and suddenly they start pulling ahead. Fine, I'm in no hurry, so I move back over and almost immediately start gaining on them again. Move over to pass again, they speed up again, rinse/repeat. I know this game, it's my least favorite rear end in a top hat driver move because it is so deliberate. So I drop the hammer to get far away from them, the only solution I have found that works. They kept up to about 85mph before giving up, and once I had returned to the speed limit I never saw them again.

The better way to play this game is to continue to stay in the left lane, preventing them from slowing down unless they want to stop playing games. Then use them as a bait car for cops.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

BraveUlysses posted:

Who the gently caress invents this? I swear to god half the loving subarus in all of seattle have owners who don't understand that DRLs are not low beams.

It was super foggy out today and the only people with their lights on we're people driving older cars :(

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
The right lane is the new fast lane on the 401 in Ontario. gently caress the haters, if that lane is wide open for miles I'm using it if no one else will.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

FogHelmut posted:

My DRLs don't light up the road at all. I'm not sure I've had a car whose DRLs do. They run at a lower voltage and produce little to no useful output. Are there cars that have DRLs that light up the road? I figure people are just stupid and aren't really being fooled into thinking their lights are on.

I've found that modern fords have drl lights at about 90% of normal brightness. It's kind of a joke to turn on the lights and see them get a tiny bit brighter.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
Cheers to the Mazda pickup driver who held it together mostly.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

nsaP posted:

Last summer was real tempting when people started driving with their windows down. I'd be out riding and see the typical 'distracted driver' ahead and eventually end up next to them at a light, only to see their face full of phone. I really wanted to just grab it and chuck it off the road, then take off. I actually considered grabbing it and tossing it in their passenger seat. In reality I just mime talking on a phone and swerve around my lane and hope that it gets thru, provided they've looked away from the phone.

Many years ago I was waiting to cross at an intersection as a pedestrian. Walk sign lights up, I start to walk, and suddenly a car makes a right in front of me. The car was close enough to hitting me that I felt a whoosh of air as it passed what seemed like inches in front of me.

I instinctually threw my hands up as it went in front of me and, in some sort of magical karmic event, the lit cigarette in my hand flew through the open window of the car and onto the driver. I watched in awe as the car continued down the street for about 50 metres before slamming on the brakes and swerving around.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Friar Zucchini posted:

I did this in the Taurus I used to have (hey stop laughing, it was all I had!) but getting this Suburban near a turn at any speed other than "kinda slow" makes me go all :stare: and I end up pulling bits of seat cushion out my asscrack later. It disturbs me that a friend I lent the truck while I was out of town said he was impressed by the handling... I didn't even know "handling" was something it was capable of doing at all, let alone well.

I managed to get some wheel hop in a Ford Escort wagon on an off ramp. It was terrifying at the time and my first lesson in what cars do at their limit.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

fralbjabar posted:

I saw the legendary taillight-less Ford last night! About 1:30am going eastbound on the mass pike black or dark blue focus with no tail lights driving with their high beams on. Not a new one either, looked like a first generation hatchback though I didn't stick around long enough to get a good look at it.

Best part is if it was a first generation then their gauges wouldn't have been lit up with the lights off. How the gently caress do you drive at night with dark gauges and not get the hint that you've forgotten something.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I got to ride in a crown Vic during police chase training at the Ontario police college. They have a professional driver (the crook) in a Matrix S and he fuckin made a mockery of our trainee. They have a wicked old airstrip to train on like the top gear track.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

TrueChaos posted:

Picton? St. Lac hosts autox events there, and there's also usually a 2 day regional event there every year. It's such a great spot for it, 3rd gear slaloms at 120km/h :getin:

Aylmer Police College. They can pick up some wicked speed on it. It felt like the door sills were going to scrape the ground in the Vic I was in. They have it setup with fake intersections and streetlights as well.

8ender fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jan 31, 2014

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I travelled home tonight on a highway packed with about 6+ inches of snow during a snowstorm. Its normally three lanes but had turned into one unofficial lane so everyone had some space to slide around. It was a very orderly line of cars and trucks moving about 50-70km/h for about an hour. No one panicked, no one flexed MY POSITRAC into a barrier, and everyone kept a good distance.

It is official: severe winter has brow beaten Canadian drivers into being good at winter driving again.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
With RWD trucks and SUVs they seem to stay stable on the slippery stuff a little longer because of their weight versus a RWD car. That weight really works against them though when they move past that point and start sliding.

I find a lot of people aren't prepared for just how difficult it is to bring a giant SUV back into line when that point is reached because they rarely experience it.

8ender fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Feb 3, 2014

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I don't understand the hate about passing on the right. If you're loitering in the middle lane and not passing someone then hell yeah I'm passing your stupid rear end if I'm in the right.

We have these long chains of cars within a half car length of each other that form in the middle lane. I call them "future pile up accidents". So few people use the right lane that it's like my own personal lane sometimes.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
It really sucks when you have a pack of cars in two somewhat clear lanes, doing about 70-80km/h in a snowstorm, and you see some rear end in a top hat in merc decide everything is going too slow and get onto the left lane covered in half a foot of snow and start trying to pass everyone. Its like everyone else looks at this guy and thinks "no, don't do it man, we've got a good thing going, we're gonna make it". Then a few kms up they're in the ditch. This has been my commute today over and over.

Also bonus points for the driver that drifted his fuckin tour bus onto and off the death zone left lane because he absolutely had to go over 110km/h

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
Hey you assholes who drive with the left foot on the brake and right on the gas: Most modern cars will throw on the brake lights when you rest or move your foot on the brake pedal. Yes even if its just a little pressure.

This is super disruptive in the winter when lit brake lights on the highway usually mean holy poo poo I've hit some nasty patch of ice/snow/wreckage.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

PT6A posted:

Braking because you've hit ice? That's not a very good idea at all.

I wouldn't dare but just about every other driver on the road seems to stab that brake when something goes pear shaped no matter what it is. On the 401 in Canada in the winter if you see brake lights you start braking as well if its safe because odds are some poo poo is going down. If you see brake lights start to merge together into one brake light then holy poo poo someone is sideways.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I kind of wish my 93' BMW had a clutch interlock. I've forgotten a few times and had it do the starter crawl.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I was almost that guy once. I turned onto the on ramp for the highway and heard a clunk. The turn felt very very wrong. Pulled over and my left tire was hanging on with three half backed out lugs.

Thanks Canadian tire.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Or maybe the guy's idle is all hosed up in his noted shitbox and he can't leave it in drive or it dies? Wouldn't be the first time I've seen that.

I once had to do this, but in neutral at lights, for a 250km drive home because my alternator was making GBS threads the bed and would only charge above 3000rpm. I felt like such a tool revving the gently caress out of my Ford Escort at lights and then peeling out in non-overdrive D trying to keep that battery charging.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Seat Safety Switch posted:

I got one of those with a Tercel wagon just outside Nanton a few years ago. He made himself a window, though...

Someone I knew had a Tercel wagon out in B.C. with a log instead of the stock bumper. Peak west coast :canada: right there

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I find fog lights work best in snowy conditions as it lets me see where I am on the road better and doesn't light up the falling snow like high beams.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
Holy poo poo drivers please stop using your high beams on the opposite side of a 6 lane highway. Just because its wider doesn't mean it isn't blinding everyone on the other side as well as all the people less than 100m ahead of you.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Galler posted:

I keep having people pull out in front of me on rural 55mph roads causing me to have to apply a significant amount of braking force to not hit them and then being stuck behind them while they slowwwwwwly accelerate up to way below the limit for half a mile or so before they turn off. I don't understand being in such a hurry that you can’t wait a few seconds for cross traffic to pass but then not being in enough of a hurry to actually accelerate at a reasonable rate.

If its clear for a pass I just smoke em while laying on the horn. I'm so sick of people doing this.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I'm so happy I have a fast car and can dust people who do that now. In turbo I trust

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

blk posted:

No matter how much of an rear end in a top hat someone's being, brake checking is a pretty terrible idea all around. It's an easy way to cause an accident and inconvenience a whole lot of people other than the parties involved.

This. Also you can continue at speed and annoy much more by just lightly tapping the brake pedal once in a while to trigger the lights without actually braking.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
My strategy for truckers on the highway is that they are huge and don't give any fucks, and I am small and fast, so I get the gently caress out of their way and smile at the sounds my turbo makes rolling on in 6th gear.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
A small dog pretty much turns into a torpedo in a collision.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
Seemed to me from the video that he couldn't see the van and its lights because of the traffic in the other lanes.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

Krakkles posted:

... because he maintained his speed past stopped/stopping traffic. That's like teenager level amateur mistake.

I'll give you that but so is the van driver crossing the third lane full tilt just because two other lanes stopped to let him by.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep
I ran into that before except it was a Neon doing 5-10km/h with no lights on at night. I called it in and the OPP picked up the driver. It turned out to be a really old grandma and I had mixed feelings about sicking the cops on her.

8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

xzzy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNA5Yn1MqCQ

Not the reaction I would have had. Blows my mind how people in the top lane just keep driving like it's no big deal.

The guy who comes out of nowhere at the end and drops some kind of orange barrier is the best part. Do people in Russia habitually carry around safety cones?

The person driving the car beside the sinkhole opening up was remarkably polite considering. I'd probably have been pushing that other car out of the way with mine in a panic.

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8ender
Sep 24, 2003

clown is watching you sleep

nsaP posted:

Here's a dude I shared the road with.



No hitting the profile or post history, guess the state if you don't already know.

I wanted to say Ontario, Canada but you said state not province.

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