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AddMEonFacebook posted:Wow great straw-man. No. Not you, either. It's the same companies that supported the nazis and never went out of business. They continued their agenda. The German economy was in ruins prior to the wars and the wars saved it, really. So, Germany orchestrated WW1 for the sake of making a few companies a lot of money. The people of Germany wanted war because there were getting pissed on so hard financially. Germany still produces highly advanced weapons and chemicals. It worked. Erm, before world war 1, unified Germany was both a new concept and also poised to become arguably the strongest European power both in terms of military strength and economic power, it consolidated a bunch of wealthy, and comparatively powerful nations and city states into a single nation, something which hadn't really happened in that part of the world before. The holy roman empire allegedly did a similar thing but in practice its feudal structure meant that its constituent states regularly fought each other. For about a century before the first world war, most European nations were very actively engaged in diplomacy to try and keep the various powerful nations from beating the snot out of each other, and for some time Germany was a major participant in that as well. Unfortunately, a side effect of all the diplomatic talks were that there were quite a strict series of alliances and agreements between various nations which meant that when war did break out, it quickly spread and everybody became drawn into the conflict. Part of the reason Germany was able to fight such a destructive war was precisely because it has a lot of money, men, and military at the start of the conflict. It managed to prosecute a prolonged and unprecedentedly destructive conflict against what had been the most powerful nations on earth not too long before that. So saying that Germany was in ruins prior to the war is... well it's completely wrong. After the war the allied powers stripped Germany of most of its industrial and economic base which crippled the country, and it took a lot of rebuilding, as well as some unwillingness to enforce restrictions later on, for Germany to become a competitive power again. Not to mention some very new ideas about warfare that took a lot of its neighbors by surprise. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Dec 28, 2014 |
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Saul Goode posted:Some people are so excited about showing their extensive knowledge on a subject that they willingly engage with trolls, in the vain belief that the troll cares anything about the substance of their responses rather than the fact that informed people are responding to them at all, and thus validating their worth, and the worth of their foolish ideas. This is how conspiracy theorists thrive. I may be also partly curious about how he thinks WW1 worked because it might make a killer alt/historical fanfiction.
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Dec 28, 2014 16:00
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You know what they make lethal injections out of? Low sodium salt. Actually a true fact but doesn't mean low sodium salt will kill you.
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Dec 28, 2014 18:45
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AddMEonFacebook posted:Alright. Decent post for once, finally. What would you consider to not be anecdotal? Only evidence that is gathered through controlled experiments? Doesn't this create a serious epistemological block? Do we naturally rely on anecdotal evidence to construct a fuller model of our world and experiences? Multiple corroborating firsthand accounts is a good start, though forensic and scientific evidence would trump that. Witnesses are not as reliable as material evidence.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:26
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AddMEonFacebook posted:Pretty much everything political is going to be anecdotal, it seems. You can't exactly have perfect knowledge and controlled experiments around political situations and world-changing events. You either create a epistemological block and retreat into reductionist scientific models or you theorize and accept some of the anecdotal evidence that you have in order to complete your model world-view and identity. Is there a way around this? "I haven't a loving clue so Occam's Razor." Accept that you don't really know anything about what goes on but assume incompetence and stupidity has a lot to do with it, those being rather simpler than grand Machiavellian plots. So, yes the US and other world governments piggybacked on top of 9/11 to bring in more authoritarian control, because people in charge like to do that sort of thing, but that doesn't mean they were bright enough to successfully plan it and perfectly cover it up afterwards. They can be opportunist idiots and still produce the same effect. Or a more small scale version, JFK was probably shot by a nutter with a rifle, rather than elaborately assassinated by an international conspiracy who managed to perfectly cover their tracks. Because a nutter with a rifle only requires one person to just be nuts and be able to shoot, whereas the conspiracy is far more complicated and unlikely.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:40
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AddMEonFacebook posted:Occam's razor might be what you're using to complete your world-view (and so is useful), but is it really a scientific principle that produces truth? You don't prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the simple explanation is the correct one like you can prove the existence of gravity and the force equation with physics experiments. No you don't, as you pointed out, scientific observation is rarely available to us in political matters because most governments go out of their way to obfuscate investigation of themselves out of paranoia. You cannot know for sure what the truth is, but in the absence of that knowledge, a large conspiracy is even less probable than the simpler explanation of the world being run by a bunch of poorly communicating idiots.
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Dec 29, 2014 06:50
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Peztopiary posted:Insane seems a little harsh. I mean ignorant or uneducated, but what about my beliefs is insane? How do you "gently caress up" and accidentally shoot the president of the united states in the head, while he's in a moving vehicle?
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Dec 29, 2014 18:55
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:IIRC, there was an SS guy several cars back with an M-16. Some doofus "expert" claimed that Kennedy's head wound matched the type of damage you'd see from a 5.56 round as opposed to the Manlicher Carcano's 6.5 mm round. So the agent had poor trigger discipline I guess. I didn't think the M16 had been invented then honestly.
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Dec 29, 2014 19:11
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Here we go: http://www.philly.com/philly/news/Shooting_holes_in_theory_that_a_Secret_Service_agent_killed_President_Kennedy.html That still raises the issue of how you manage to specifically shoot kennedy in the head without hosing down half the street with gunfire.
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Dec 29, 2014 19:14
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:It's select fire. He could have had it on single shot as opposed to fully automatic. I've watched the matrix, they spent like half an hour trying to do that with machineguns and it didn't work. And if there's one historical source I can trust, it's the matrix. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Dec 29, 2014 |
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Dec 29, 2014 19:34
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AddMEonFacebook posted:Here's the Harvard study. They also mention that, with regard to cognition: Is there a reason to suppose that fluoride makes you go crazy if no studies have been conducted with regards to it?
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Dec 30, 2014 08:19
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AddMEonFacebook posted:There are some studies that were done in China. It's also the most electronegative element in existence so it will react with almost anything. Were they done by just jamming a billion gallons of fluorine into people or were they done on fluorine consumption in levels and formats similar to what would be found in US drinking water? Also "it reacts with almost anything" doesn't say a great deal because so does aluminium. You still won't die from drinking out of cans.
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Dec 30, 2014 08:26
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AddMEonFacebook posted:It was in areas with already high levels for sure, but they did get good data showing neurological damage. We've moved on a bit to questioning whether hydrofluosilicic acid (the chemical added to water supplies and obtained from industrial waste) could be contaminated with lead and arsenic from the industrial process. The argument was made that hydrofluosilicic acid is reacted with other chemicals prior to being added to the water to remove impurity, and if anyone can prove that and show me how cities convert hydrofluosilicic acid into sodium fluoride before adding it to the water, I'll be satisfied. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexafluorosilicic_acid Eyeballing it, it looks like a convenient method of storing reactive fluorine in a stable medium for transport. Sodium is readily available and generally safe for human consumption in smallish doses, so sodium fluoride makes sense as a method for actually ingesting fluoride and is understood to have beneficial effects on bones and teeth when ingested orally. Sodium fluoride can be prepared from fluorosiclic acid by exposing it to sodium hydroxide which is more or less the bog standard alkaline solution used in chemistry, which would give you sodium fluoride and some combination of hydrogen, oxygen, and silicon. AddMEonFacebook posted:Impurities in the hydrofluosilicic acid wouldn't be consistent throughout, and so this is the kind of result I would expect. Only when impure chemicals were added would we find excessive levels of contamination, so I don't think we need 29 of 29 to question whether this might be from impure chemicals labeled as fluoride. Alternatively possibly Chicago is a major city with a long industrial history and so it probably has a lot of problems with lead contamination in general. It has nothing to do with fluoride and everything to do with it being Chicago.
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Dec 30, 2014 10:20
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AddMEonFacebook posted:Major topics: building 7 and fluoridation in water. Using the holohaux straw-man, I see. Generally the problem with lead pipes is when they are left in areas of outdated water infrastructure rather than homes, which makes them difficult to track down precisely. Combined with poor record keeping and problems with paper records being lost or damaged over the years and in old and built up cities, it becomes difficult to know what is going on where with the infrastructure, and finding the money to replace it all is also difficult. Of course individual homes can also have them but that is generally a bit easier to find out because you don't have to dig up a road to do it.
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Dec 31, 2014 00:39
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AddMEonFacebook posted:No I didn't. I was freely admitting there could be other sources of contamination. My point for quarkjets was that I don't think contamination at the source would appear in 100% of homes. There'll be someone, somewhere who is very concerned about it I'm sure, but otherwise it's an easy thing to not care about. It's difficult to assign the blame to any one person and subsequently difficult to get the funds to do anything about it. Water in big cities is just kinda poo poo, fact of life, nobody to blame or take responsibility for it, much bigger and more scary sounding things to make a fuss about. What you want to start a crusade over is fairly arbitrary honestly, the world's full of injustices and bad stuff to get hot and bothered about. I am sure you can understand that the perfect safety of the Chicago water supply is not the hill that the entire world wants to die on.
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Dec 31, 2014 10:05
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Jan 9, 2015 04:18
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Disinterested posted:I actually know a person who was accused of being one of these actresses because she was a contestant on America's next top model and then was interviewed by TV because she was swinging around a pole in front of the white house in a stars and stripes jumper when Osama got got. I realise that you probably meant just messing around on a lamp post but 'swinging around a pole in front of the white house in a stars and stripes jumper' made me think 'stripper act' initially. Which would have made for an interesting interview.
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Jan 11, 2015 21:08
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nomemories posted:I don't gotta explain poo poo to none of you. If you're of adolescence and still don't see it then your so stupid you never will. ZERO dead at Sandy Hook! It's in the federal murder statistics for that year. I really do like the conspiracy idea that governments are capable of fooling everyone but the census bureau.
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Jan 11, 2015 21:14
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nomemories posted:You're a sheep and will continue being hosed like one. You gently caress sheep?
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Jan 11, 2015 21:20
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Can't we have both more guns and more cocks? I want gay cowboys 24/7.
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Jan 11, 2015 23:44
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The beeb in general tends towards the insufferably dry and dutiful noting of all aspects of a story, or at least a bunch of them. If you're used to American news or lovely tabloid news in general, it'll probably sound weird. It generally doesn't carry much of an implicit message either way.
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Jan 12, 2015 20:48
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Or possibly, crystal magic attracts scatterbrained idiots who can't remember where they put anything. I've never lost any of my rock collection.
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Jan 23, 2015 05:00
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Saturn does sound quite horrifying if you point a radio telescope at it and pitch shift the resulting noise into the audible range.
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Jan 27, 2015 21:18
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Lightning Jim posted:How do you think I feel?!?! I got my meteorology degree and I wasn't inducted into the Weather Control Council! How am I supposed to make it rain now?! With a big-rear end bundle of tubas pointed at the sky, same as the rest of us.
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Jan 28, 2015 16:00
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Presumably that would mean black people do come from earth because they don't get sunburn?
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Feb 2, 2015 20:28
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blowfish posted:Put 300 humans in a plane and fly them over the Atlantic. Count the number of survivors. Well, technically, if you're including the pilots, and you're using average samples for each, the death toll would probably be quite similar. If you're going to select for airline pilots in the human sample, you obviously need to do the same for the chimps.
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Silver has antibiotic properties but it also has anti-most-forms-of-life properties, so its use as an antibiotic is rather limited, it's about as good for you as drinking water with lots of lead flakes in it in the hopes that the bacteria get lead poisoning before you do.
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That means it's working. If disinfectant doesn't hurt like buggery you're not using enough of it. Though more seriously I should think that would be whatever else was in the bandage other than silver, silver itself isn't especially reactive.
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Feb 9, 2015 03:37
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Tias posted:Thanks for the link, it was awesome, but please trunc it out of a playlist the next time. I'd rather not be subjected to David Icke's loving goon voice by surprise again It isn't part of a playlist, you probably had autoplay on which means youtube is selecting what it thinks you want to watch next and playing it.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:03
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ErIog posted:I've always liked this thought experiment. We exist in a timeline where the holocaust happened. So either time travel will never exist on earth, the holocaust is a minor blip compared to other preventable horrors that will be visited upon the human race to the point that in the future it does not feel worth using time travel to correct, or time travel is exclusively controlled by anti-semites that do not wish to prevent the holocaust. Technically there is another option which is that the people who invented time travel didn't fund the department of temporal sociology well enough to know how to prevent something pretty poo poo happening in the 20th century so they didn't want to poke it in case they made it worse.
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I thought orgone was magic space energy or something, how does a heap of scrap metal make it wortk better?
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Mar 10, 2015 01:50
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McDowell posted:It accumulates the energy so the intensified field makes you horny Is this something many people need a lot of help with? I spent most of my teenage years trying to avoid spontaneous boners. I don't want to go back to that.
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Mar 10, 2015 02:55
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EnderWiggin posted:This isn't as funny as the other ones. It's pretty funny to me given the notion of a "bomb laying satellite".
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Mar 31, 2015 08:27
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Wait pizza = kiddy porn is a new thing? I thought it was an old chan euphemism? Like, years and years old?Modrasone posted:Obama is using his last days to build a Super-Guantánamo in Antarctica to imprison Julian Assange? Isn't that the plot of Deus Ex?
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xthetenth posted:It's the assumption that people in Clinton's administration use the same euphemism as the chans that's new. Uh. Why?
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Nov 24, 2016 21:26
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Dog Jones posted:I don't think Assange has said he merely doesn't "want" to go talk to the police. My understanding is that he is concerned about leaving the embassy because of his perception that the charges aren't made in good faith. Oh well if you're convinced you shouldn't go to prison that's alright then. We'll let it go.
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Nov 29, 2016 20:54
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Dog Jones posted:Why are you eager to throw someone in prison when you don't know if they are guilty or not? Let's say I'm a little suspicious of someone who is so convinced they'll be convicted that they're willing to imprison themselves in order to not have to answer their charges in court. Like this is Swedish prison, if it was America I might understand but Sweden as far as I know is really not known for its hellprisons. Also I'm afraid personal conviction of innocence doesn't let you tell the police that now isn't a convenient time, that's not how a functioning society should work.
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Nov 29, 2016 21:01
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Dog Jones posted:Why do you say Assange's motivating factor is his certainty that he will be convicted? I think you just made that up. Like I said I'm pretty sure the idea that Assange and his supporters put forth is that the rape charges are baseless and the real concern is extradition to the US Well I suppose "he's terrified that the US will black helicopter him away suddenly because he's too much of a rebel" is less flattering so I was going with the perhaps more rational and self interested option? Either he believes he'll be found guilty of rape or he's just randomly terrified that the US is going to kidnap him, neither one says much good about him as a person.
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Many things would be rational if the beliefs of the irrational were actually correct.
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