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Ninpo posted:Yeah and not just Qatar, the entire region isn't exactly a poster child for labour friendliness. If I recall correctly the UAE human rights record is atrocious as well. Dubai kicked the abuse off on a major scale in the mid-90s. The entire GCC boom of the past 15 years has been on the backs of indentured labour, but Dubai and Abu Dhabi are hands down the worst of the bunch.
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Ninpo posted:Yeah and not just Qatar, the entire region isn't exactly a poster child for labour friendliness. If I recall correctly the UAE human rights record is atrocious as well.
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St Evan Echoes posted:Yeah I think I read something about Egypt and a bunch of Jewish labourers in primary school, could be wrong though. Impossible, they're not hard workers
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MisterBadIdea posted:Gotta admit, all that time we spent complaining about how a schedule change would affect the '22 Premier League season seems kind of silly now. Not really as one thing that would really harm the WC and FIFA would be a refusal to change the schedule and try and retain a number of big players at their clubs, if they ran a campaign for it id assume most fans would be on board. As ridiculous as this sounds FIFA cares more about its talent showing up than poor migrant workers dying. This is the world we live in.
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Ponce de Le0n posted:Not really as one thing that would really harm the WC and FIFA would be a refusal to change the schedule and try and retain a number of big players at their clubs, if they ran a campaign for it id assume most fans would be on board. Gotta keep that tax free advertiser cash flowing and if Ronaldo and Messi arent coming they'll get angry.
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If only loving Henry Ford hadn't commercialized the internal combustion engine, this is all his loving fault.
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St Evan Echoes posted:Yeah I think I read something about Egypt and a bunch of Jewish labourers in primary school, could be wrong though. Are you being a dick for a reason?
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Ninpo posted:Are you being a dick for a reason? read the torah brah
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I was thinking how this issue really highlights the difference between sports journalism and real journalism. The Guardian and a few others are doing an okay job at it, but not great. I think this stuff should be major world news, but instead it's often just a flavor piece next to laughing about how poo poo Bendtner is or talking about how Moyes has lost the plot already or whatever drivel is the current topic of the day. Just there to make someone reading the sports page feel nice and haughty about how informed they are with world issues. It would be nice if things like this could bridge that gap, both in expanding the target reading audience as well as using actual reporters with journalistic integrity to find real facts about these issues. Instead we'll get a drip feed of really depressing information from time to time and then the tone will turn to reluctant acceptance and football will die from heat stroke.
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Bea Nanner posted:I was thinking how this issue really highlights the difference between sports journalism and real journalism. During the Euros, the Suns chief European journalist, not sports journalist, wrote articles about Rooney's hair care products and poo poo like that. None of them care
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Scott Bakula posted:During the Euros, the Suns chief European journalist, not sports journalist, wrote articles about Rooney's hair care products and poo poo like that. None of them care To be fair, that's the Sun
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The lack of giving a poo poo is fairly representative of lots of the media. And before anyone forgets the reason this thread was started, Sarkozy is one of the big reasons Qatar got the world cup so most politicians don't care either
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Also, if a sports journalist writes a scathing expose of FIFA corruption, that person would never be invited to another FIFA event in their life, which could have a direct impact on that person's livelihood. An actual journalist wouldn't give a gently caress if a bunch of old men got mad at them and didn't invite them to tea parties and could therefore report on their corruption with impunity.
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Scott Bakula posted:The lack of giving a poo poo is fairly representative of lots of the media. And before anyone forgets the reason this thread was started, Sarkozy is one of the big reasons Qatar got the world cup so most politicians don't care either I'd go as far to say most football fans dont give a poo poo either, its in 2022, i'd imagine they'd get more concerned as time goes on though.
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What would it take for all the big footballing nations to back out if fifa and let them have 15 lovely concacaf island nations and 17 middle eastern countries in the world cup
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ayb posted:What would it take for all the big footballing nations to back out if fifa and let them have 15 lovely concacaf island nations and 17 middle eastern countries in the world cup A parallel universe.
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ayb posted:What would it take for all the big footballing nations to back out if fifa and let them have 15 lovely concacaf island nations and 17 middle eastern countries in the world cup Someone giving each federation 6 billion pounds.
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ayb posted:What would it take for all the big footballing nations to back out if fifa and let them have 15 lovely concacaf island nations and 17 middle eastern countries in the world cup Nike and ImBev offering to fund the Neo-FIFA.
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Blatter hasn't been making a big deal about it, but he didn't actually vote for Qatar's bid. (He wanted America in '22.) You'd think he'd bring it up more but 1) the only reason he'd do that is to distance himself from the corruption, and he clearly doesn't give a poo poo about that, and 2) it would remind people how little control he exercises over his super-corrupt organization. In any case he certainly doesn't seem happy about the Qatar situation.
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ayb posted:What would it take for all the big footballing nations to back out if fifa and let them have 15 lovely concacaf island nations and 17 middle eastern countries in the world cup A kickstarter set up by MLS tailgaters for the USMNT to bribe their way to a world cup victory?
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The US getting another world cup before everyone else going for it apart from Qatar would be a pisstake anyway
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Scott Bakula posted:The US getting another world cup before everyone else going for it apart from Qatar would be a pisstake anyway
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Scott Bakula posted:The US getting another world cup before everyone else going for it apart from Qatar would be a pisstake anyway The USA should host it every time since we have the biggest and best stadiums and the best locally sourced food.
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vaginal culture posted:The USA should host it every time since we have the biggest and best stadiums and the best locally sourced food.
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Crazy Ted posted:Take out Qatar and the other bidding countries were Australia, Japan, South Korea, and the United States. Australia would have been the only one not to host for the second time so really that whole group was kind of underwhelming. Even better, it makes Blatter's southern hemisphere comments make even less sense if Australia got it
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Crazy Ted posted:Host the whole world cup in Texas and Arizona so everyone can spend a month eating Tex-Mex until they puke. Yeah we should have states host it instead of trying to spread it across the country. California could host the world cup easily, it'd be cool and good.
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How many football stadiums does each state typically have? Can it be played on an American Football pitch?
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Psybro posted:I heard a lot of California is desert and it gets real hot there in summer. Not true and the weather is incredible it will be 77 degrees every day and lovely, we'd probably have a hard time getting all the fans to leave when it is over.
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The last time the USA were given a World Cup it was a farce. They hosed up again with the Olympics in Atlanta. They cannot be trusted with global sporting events.
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Ninpo posted:How many football stadiums does each state typically have? Can it be played on an American Football pitch?
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Ninpo posted:How many football stadiums does each state typically have? Can it be played on an American Football pitch? They would use what are primarily American football stadiums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_2022_FIFA_World_Cup_bid#Details_of_the_bid
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Having a World Cup in California would be great because then the US wouldn't have to give out pity games to shitholes in the middle of the country or the south.
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Gigi Galli posted:Having a World Cup in California would be great because then the US wouldn't have to give out pity games to shitholes in the middle of the country or the south. The best stadium in the USA is in Dallas, TX so that's a pretty lovely plan
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ayb posted:The best stadium in the USA is in Dallas, TX so that's a pretty lovely plan True but I wouldn't wish Indianapolis, Indiana on anyone traveling from another country.
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Pissflaps posted:The last time the USA were given a World Cup it was a farce. They hosed up again with the Olympics in Atlanta. They cannot be trusted with global sporting events. Hey man the 96 Olympics were great. Mostly because Atlanta hated the IOC by the time the actual thing came around. So, you ended up with Pepsi being the official soft drink of the Olympics meanwhile there were giant signs advertising Coca-Cola all over the city. edit: And the Monster Truck show opening ceremony.
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Rust Belt World Cup please. Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo. A real slice of America for all these foreign fuckers.
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Peanut President posted:Hey man the 96 Olympics were great. Mostly because Atlanta hated the IOC by the time the actual thing came around. So, you ended up with Pepsi being the official soft drink of the Olympics meanwhile there were giant signs advertising Coca-Cola all over the city. Cuban Chowder Factory posted:Rust Belt World Cup please. Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Buffalo. A real slice of America for all these foreign fuckers. Tuscaloosa, Alabama Knoxville, Tennessee Gainesville, Florida Oxford, Mississippi Athens, Georgia Columbia, South Carolina Lexington, Kentucky Tallahassee, Florida (non-SEC add-in) Final held in the Georgia Dome in Atlanta. Enjoy your culture shock, foreigners 
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The only acceptable opening ceremoney has been Beijing in 2008. Nothing has ever, or will ever come close
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The way this thread went from 4000 poor Nepalese workers dying from horrid work conditions to loving opening ceremonies of the US Olympic games tells me that a) nobody really cares b) the qatar wc will be a big success in the winter of 2022 and c) death to america
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