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WMain00 posted:They should kill off the entire FBI side of things and have The James Spader Show. The only good thing about this episode is we didn't get the London hacking underground version of
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*flicks a few pages back* I see i'm not the only one that has thought this. Someone phone up NBC.
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Mar 20, 2015 13:34
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The episode was pretty "meh" overall, the whole deus ex legal-ica coming in and clearing the path. But Red's speech to Lizzy at the end was pretty good, and pretty heartbreaking. I am sick of Tom on the show, but at the same time I crave more shirtless Ryan Eggold. I am so torn.
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Mar 20, 2015 16:09
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This show is so unbelievably frustrating. It bores me to the point that I'm spending most of the episode playing Sim City on my phone, and then it turns into The James Spader show like it did at the end of this week's episode. That speech was amazing. Every time I consider dropping it altogether, this happens.
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Mar 20, 2015 21:27
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Mouse Dresser posted:I am sick of Tom on the show... It's a Catch-22. Tom is the only character other than Spader who has (or is seemingly ALLOWED to have) any loving depth. An interesting show would honestly be an offshoot explaining Tom's training and life *up* to meeting Agent McCrysalot.
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Mar 20, 2015 22:20
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It's a Catch-22. Tom is the only character other than Spader who has (or is seemingly ALLOWED to have) any loving depth. I loved skinhead Tom, but they forced the whole Germany plot through so fast it was a waste. He was much more convincing as an amoral sociopath, to the idiot that gave himself to the court, because love. Spader's speech at the end was captivating. But sadly the rest was pure dross.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:28
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Yeah, I wish he'd hung out with the neo nazi drug/gun runners for a while longer. And I agree, it was stupid to have Tom go there and profess his love of Liz. Completely unlike anything the character has ever done. I hate this show so much.
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Mar 21, 2015 05:04
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Does he? Didn't he come in as a surprise after Spader put on his thinking face? I may've missed something from one of those scenes that doesn't have Spader in it, but I just assumed he coaxed/coerced Tom into doing this somehow.
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Mar 21, 2015 08:04
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I unironically like this show. Literally all of it, even the last two episodes.  Is-is there something wrong with me?Seriously though, the last two episodes were kinda the standard "almost get caught, magic happens and they get out of it" plotline that happens in a lot of these kinds of shows. I don't think they should have set it up as its own two episode thing though, maybe had it going in the background while pushing on the Fulcrum plotline or something. As it stands, it's an elaborate setup to make the soon-to-be-Attourney-General as the next antagonist, and it kinda works, just for the look on Cooper's face when he's like "I never had any principles." The realization that his "friend" is actually just another power hungry rear end in a top hat like the people they hunt down with the task force is just priceless. Plus the fact that he waited just a little bit too long and wasn't quite enthusiastic enough for that "I'm Kidding," part of his new blackmail material over Cooper and the task force was just a bit too sinister. I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be somehow involved with the cabal that want the Fulcrum or whatever, though in all probability, he's just gonna be a side antagonist while they work through the Fulcrum plotline. Seriously though, they had Ron Perlman on the show and he had all of like seven speaking lines in like two episode, what the hell NBC, was he getting paid by the word or something?  Fake edit: So apparently the show got approved for a third season at the beginning of February, gee, wonder if the Fulcrum plotline will be resolved by the finale of the second season! 
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IBlameRoadSuess posted:Fake edit: So apparently the show got approved for a third season at the beginning of February, gee, wonder if the Fulcrum plotline will be resolved by the finale of the second season! * A filler episode regarded as Lost's low point.
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I do remember the one bit of superfluous dialog I wished I could've edited in post: Red: "They're less concerned with 'White Power' as they are with 'White Powder.'" Super Meera: "They're drug dealers?" Red: "No, they sell Girl Scout cookies...and here I thought you were the *smart* one." You know, aside from: "Lizzie's in trouble. You put her in it." "I don't care. She chained me up on a loving boat for months."  *cut to one day later* "Oh hey, suddenly I care. Put me in jail." Even if there's a ~twist~ coming, which of course there is, that's just lovely writing. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Mar 22, 2015 |
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Mar 22, 2015 11:17
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Marshall Flinkman out of nowhere.
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Gonz posted:Marshall Flinkman out of nowhere. And once again, a guest star knows more than 99% of the main cast. Super Meera seems to be losing her edge being around morons, and now Harold's pretty much setting himself up to be put in a position where he'll have to ultimately sacrifice himself due to jeopardizing the team to keep getting doses of Cancer Killer #9. *pushes forward the Red King* "Seriously, do you remember *anything*? Say something! I know the lady just said you're all usually non-verbal, but I can only understand slowly-spoken English, preferably with labeled diagrams and finger puppets, and I'm obviously not looking for non-standard forms of communication." *pushes forward the Red King...again* "Fuckin' useless lump of poo poo." *walks away in a huff* REALLY OBSERVANT THERE, LIZZY. I wonder what the next clue would've been, a Vigenère cipher using the playing cards to tell her not only the *name* of the guy kidnapping people, but precise GPS coordinates where to find him? BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Mar 27, 2015 |
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Mar 27, 2015 10:42
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So... this episode had even LESS of a point than the clip show that preceded it? The most interesting part was after everything was resolved and Bishop tried to kill Tom (or Jacob or whatever the hell his name is). Also I thought the German bikers died in that gunfight an episode ago? 
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IBlameRoadSuess posted:So... this episode had even LESS of a point than the clip show that preceded it? The most interesting part was after everything was resolved and Bishop tried to kill Tom (or Jacob or whatever the hell his name is). Also I thought the German bikers died in that gunfight an episode ago? I wouldn't say that. This episode returned to the more effective Monster of the Week format where the A-plot centers around some really bad person doing bad things for bad reasons, and the taskforce's efforts to take care of said bad man. The clip show that preceded this episode didn't have that A-plot. The "monster," if you will, was really just a judge who didn't even serve the function of a monster. He just was the scaffolding used to erect the framing device for the clip show. The overall C-plot arc, Lizzy's memory and the fulcrum and all that crap, didn't progress at all. But, if that arc continuously progresses, it'll resolve too quickly, and then they'll have to come up with some other convoluted sub-sub-plot to drive Red's motivations. I'm OK with that arc not moving each and every episode. But the clips shows? They didn't move anything forward, not even a basic monster plot, and that ate up two whole episodes. Inexcusable.
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Fair enough, they did return to their usual format with this one, but the whole plot seemed a bit too out there to seem really credible. There was minimal sense of urgency, unlike something from an earlier episode like the one serial killer targeting abusive parents/spouses etc (Which they did twice, once in season one with the "Good Samaritan" and again in season two with "The Deer Hunter") All they really did was tie in some human experimentation on people with disabilities and try to tie in the billionaire that wants to live forever. And they had that bit with Reddington trying to tie it to Liz's memories, but that fell sorta flat. With the way they brought in the "downfall of Cooper" arc, and the fact that Reddington is STILL preparing for something (making friends with the billionaire seems like a first step in this) The whole thing feels like a setup episode without the benefit of having a payoff of a second part where things get resolved. I will say one thing for this episode though: Outside of Reddington, Dembe is Best Character.
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Mar 27, 2015 21:19
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I haven't watched any episodes since the Ron Perlman 2-parter. Is it worth getting back on the train or should I abandon a sinking ship?
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Josh Lyman posted:I haven't watched any episodes since the Ron Perlman 2-parter. Is it worth getting back on the train or should I abandon a sinking ship? With the exception of a recent 2-part glorified clip show, it's been pretty entertaining. Keep in mind, though, that easily one third of this show's charm is pure and simple James Spader brand Badassery®.
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Mar 27, 2015 23:13
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I kept expecting the judge to be working for someone else the way he just kept going every time he was slapped down.
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Josh Lyman posted:I haven't watched any episodes since the Ron Perlman 2-parter. Is it worth getting back on the train or should I abandon a sinking ship? It's worth for moments like "Whoops, what are the chances of that?".
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so why did the germans let tom go? first they threatened to kill her, then he warned them she's fbi and he could help them in some way and next he was free on the street. ugh
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mcbexx posted:It's worth for moments like "Whoops, what are the chances of that?". I loved that. I think Red's fortune is made up of all the gold tokens he gets for Stylish Kills. It ranked up there with "Oh my God, the suspense is killing me."
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pasaluki posted:I actually thought the judge sort of owned. I'm sure he will turn out to be evil, because he is an old white man, but he in many ways pointed out how loving retarded and implausible the characters and script are. I don't know if the show was being self aware or what? I'm two episodes behind but I just want to say that the scene in the judges chambers was the most meta thing I've seen and was basically channeling this thread right up to the point where she says what a terrible profiler she is and how she sucks And I don't understand why Lizzie couldn't just lay out what she suspected about Reddington and her past instead of explaining things as she stumbled onto them pissing off the judge by being withholding. But then I guess we wouldn't get our flashback episode that way WhyteRyce fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Mar 31, 2015 |
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Mar 31, 2015 16:58
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Shelffffffffffffffffffffffff.
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WhyteRyce posted:And I don't understand why Lizzie couldn't just lay out what she suspected about Reddington and her past instead of explaining things as she stumbled onto them pissing off the judge by being withholding. .... no, I don't buy it. I bet you do too know! WhyteRyce posted:But then I guess we wouldn't get our flashback episode that way Told ya.
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Maybe I'm imagining it, but it looked like there was a section in part 2 of the flashback ep where the actor playing Ressler broke character. Spader makes a comment like "Every time you open your mouth Donald, hay flies out... <keeps talking>" and you see Klattenhoff briefly look surprised, break into a laugh, and then quickly put back on his super-serious "Must save fellow agent!" face. I imagine it would be super hard to keep a straight face with the way Spader delivers all of his lines.
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Apr 3, 2015 08:08
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So Tom shot Red, right
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Mouse Dresser posted:So Tom shot Red, right yeah why the hell not. the writers still haven't decided probably
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:yeah why the hell not. the writers still haven't decided probably it turns out that the fulcrum is actually a person and also in love with Lizzie so the fulcrum has killed all the men in her life. With his dying breath Ressler curses the task force and asks Lizzie if Red can save her. She whispers "He was the first to die." The fulcrum swoops in and grabs Lizzie and they ride off on the back of a horse to go stop crime together forever.
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Mouse Dresser posted:So Tom shot Red, right Red shot Red.
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Apr 6, 2015 12:30
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Denny Crane shot Red
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He was stabbed.
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Phummus posted:Denny Crane shot Red That's what he gets for enjoying scotch and cigars with other people.
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Trammel posted:Red shot Red. Just the kind of double bluff I'd expect from the loving Lizard King.
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Show update: still terrible
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HookShot posted:Show update: still terrible "Where are you?" "This warehouse. Here's a link to its Yelp page." *minutes later* "THEY'VE FOUND US!" ----- Agent McCrysalot: "Here's a copy of the entire Fulcrum, Mr. Chief Bad Guy.  You can have that one. We've got copies."Big Bad: "And now *I* know everything I have to potentially set up spin for, and who I have to kill to make it so everything on here remains smoke and mirrors forever. Thanks!" Agent McCrysalot: "I'm...really bad at this." Big Bad: "I know. Everyone hates you for it, but *I* love you for being an idiot." ----- Mr. Kaplan: "I'm staying here. I'm going to protect you." Red: "No you're not, you've got things to do for me that can't be done if you're dead. Now go." *pouts, hands him her gun* Red: "loving *seriously*? Get an automatic, Kappy. The *small* firefights in this show involve enough ammo to topple a medium-sized Central American nation, and you're still rocking a .38 six-banger? Even *I* use a Glock, and I'm Mr. Headshot-Every-Time." ----- Tonight's the night that this show finally became Alias ~redux~. They might as well start calling Lizzy "Sydney." BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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*Takes off pulse monitor* *Screen in the background still shows a normal pulse rate*
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BIG HEADLINE posted:"Where are you?" Given your fine taste in avatars, I'm surprised you didn't work "Super Kill Guy" in there somewhere.
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tarlibone posted:Given your fine taste in avatars, I'm surprised you didn't work "Super Kill Guy" in there somewhere. You'd have to be more specific. Also: Agent McCrysalot: "You mean you've been able to hide from *Red* for years, and you *developed* this thing we've been fighting and dying over?" Retired CIA Guy: "Yep." Agent McCrysalot: "Then why aren't we like, erecting statues of you and sacrificing goats in your honor?" Retired CIA Guy: "Because you're all morons."
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