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Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
I enjoyed this thread throughout, and I don't have much to add to the discussion, but I thank you for the dozens (hundreds?) of hours of Transformers you subjected yourself to when making it. And I don't mean that because 'hurr Michael Bay' I mean the movies are actively difficult to physically watch at times with all the blurry quick-cut CGI poo poo happening constantly (though this definitely peaked in ROTF).

I was definitely one of the people you mentioned who, while not exactly analyzing the films, knew something was off at the end of the two sequels when Optimus brutally murders his opponents. I mean, it can almost be hand-waved away in ROTF if you're not thinking about it too much because the Fallen is almost literally Satan, but at the end of DOTM when Megatron has surrendered? It can't be construed as Michael Baby being a dumb bro because it's so straight-up psychotic that it's impossible that it's accidental.

Definitely looking forward to the fourth movie where he waterboards some Decepticons in front of an American flag, though.

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