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I'd appreciate more discussion, speculation, feedback, etc. The last page had a whopping ten updates, and that causes it to take really long to scroll down. Is everyone following the plot okay? Also, following advice from the Sandcastle, I won't be updating quite so much. One regular update and one bonus update a day. red mammoth fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Sep 29, 2013 |
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This game looks awesome. I love the slogans that everyone spouts and the fact that you can use them in pretty much every conversation.red mammoth posted:Also, following advice from the Sandcastle, I won't be updating quite so much. Once a day at most. SANDCASTLE! 
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Sep 28, 2013 18:37
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The Sandcastle is also assuming you're posting videos; SSLPs can go much faster. I've been looking forward to this since you posted the test post, and hope you'll continue at whatever speed you feel comfortable with.
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Yeah, I've been following, I just don't have much to add. Honestly, I've mostly been surprised by how fast the updates are coming. I am curious, though. How often is something that 'technically works' like murdering that dude in the back room a viable alternate option and how often does it mean you're hosed later, like throwing the pie at the cat back in King's Quest? Also, how does time work?
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Night10194 posted:Yeah, I've been following, I just don't have much to add. Honestly, I've mostly been surprised by how fast the updates are coming. I am curious, though. How often is something that 'technically works' like murdering that dude in the back room a viable alternate option and how often does it mean you're hosed later, like throwing the pie at the cat back in King's Quest? Also, how does time work? Generally, when I say something technically works, that means it doesn't come back to screw you later. Time works in real-time (or something close to it) but you can press the hourglass button to wait, which speeds up time drastically. Very important button in this game. Thanks for the comments, everyone. What I think I'll do is post one regular update and one bonus update a day.
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Interlude – People of Shining Future, part 1 There are eight apartment rooms in the building. Here's Apartments 1 and 2. Apartment 1 – The Ulyanovs  The door opens.    I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you some questions. How mysterious. What kind of questions? Well, I'm on the trail of a dangerous criminal gang. Oh, goodness me! Perhaps you'd better come in.  He's on the trail of some bandits. Well! That's a step in the right direction! Ruthless cutthroats, comrade! They prey on the defenseless. Do you imagine they operate in the open? They're sewer rats. Militia! They're involved! Some militia men are in the gang! Well, young man. If I can help... What a fine apartment! So warm and comfortable. You should wear a scarf! Why, thank you! We've tried to make it so. What are your names? Very nice, yes. This is Rostislav Ulyanov. I am his wife Emma. And you? Kliment Kruglov. Kliment Kruglov...Inspect Rostislav A kindly old fellow.Inspect Emma She has a twinkle in her eye.Ask for...a glass of vodka You should wear a scarf. I'm afraid we have none. Perhaps Pavel Belussov in apartment 5 has some.Ask for...a glass of tea Scandalous! And no one can do anythi... Ask about...local problems We're concerned, natura... We have none.Ask about...the Enthusiastic Progress Club We never go there.Ask about...someone called Hollywood No, I don't know him. Perhaps you could ask the superintendent in apartment 7 upstairs.Ask about...strange goings on in the building We don't notice very much of what goes on. Why don't you try the superintendent upstairs in apartment 7?Ask about...the neighbors They're all so friendly! Never any trouble.Ask about...the Belusovs Pavlov? Never met him myself... Poor Nonna Belussova. She works so hard. But such a wonderfully happy family!Ask about...the Nakhimovs Well, you know, they have problems. Roman Nakhimov gets up to no good, of course. So hard for Maya.Ask about...local crime We're concerned, natura... We sometimes see young people, drug addicts I imagine, hanging around. Poor things, so lost.Ask about...them We're both retired teachers. Our old pupils often come to see us.You take your leave. I hope we've been of help, young man! Goodnight. Such a sweet old couple. Unfortunately, I didn't get anything useful out of them. Alt Dialogue When talking to Emma Ulyanov, you have a bunch of options besides telling her you're a private detective. Yes? Local citizens "Stamp Out Crime" group. May I come in? Yes, of course. This is my husband Rostislav. Slavochka, we have a visitor! Oh! Welcome, young man! Well, well. He represents a group of people opposed to crime. Well! That's a step in the right direction! Local crime has gotten out of hand. If the militia can't or won't act... Taking the law into your own hands, eh? I don't believe we care to participate. Goodbye, young man.You are shown out. --or-- Tell me about this citizens' group you represent. We are concerned about the rise in violent crime in the neighborhood. Yes, I see. What do you think is the cause? Young people looking for enjoyment? Who knows? But we must stop it. Mm. Attack the symptoms, not the cause, eh? Not the best idea.At least he doesn't kick you out this time. --or-- Yes, I see. What do you think is the cause? Social and political change, probably. Some effects are disastrous. I quite agree. Well, if we can help...What happens when we ask her for an opinion poll, but we don't have a clipboard in her inventory? Yes? Would you mind participating in an opinion poll? Where's your clipboard? I may no longer be young, my man, but I'm not yet senile. Off with you!We try knocking again. An elderly woman's voice says from behind the door: Go away!Apartment 2 – Yasakev We knock on the door to the far left.   By whom? Any of them. Beelzebub, perhaps? I'm on their trail. Hollywood's the one I'm after. Hollywood? Yes, they would use such a name. Do you want to enter? Yes.   Seems like an artistic fellow.Inspect the intense young man  A fevered look. I don't think he's bathed in a while. Ask about...him  This man isn't entirely sane. What a surprise. Have you seen a psychiatrist? Oh yes! Many. They taunt me in dreams, you know. White-coated henchmen of the dark ones... Are you using drugs? Ask about...the seal It keeps the dark ones out!Ask about...the dark ones The devil spawn! This is their time. The world is slipping into the reeking abyss, pushed by the evil ones. Feel their presence! I'll try and play along. The seal must remain unbroken. Don't worry! It is wrought with the power of the ineffable!Ask for...his name Yasakev. And yours? Kliment Kruglov Kruglov...No, the numbers are wrong... Have you any other questions?Ask about...local problems There are no local problems! Merely symptoms! Crime, poverty, drunkenness, anarchy! These are signs, marks of the beast! His time has come!Ask about...the bar I never go there! There lurks the darkness of the soul! The waiting shadow!Ask about...Enthusiastic Progress Club A den of devilry! I feel the evil, the cackle of vice.Ask about...local crime All around us. Growing. Rubbing its hands. They're here, you see, around us! They hate me! Have you got any names? I cannot! To utter the name of devil spawn is to call them! But it is no coincidence that they bear Lenin's real name! Lenin's real name? What the hell is he talking about? Well, the old couple I just visited have the last name Ulyanov, which was also Lenin's last name.Ask about...someone named Hollywood Iniquitous name! Glistening, like evil fruit. Beckoning! I know no such person!Ask about...his job Numbers are my work! I add them, subtract and divide! I fill columns with them. Some are good but most reek of evil! I change them, but my superiors refuse to understand the essence of book-keeping! It's never a good idea to try to talk politics with lunatics.Talk about...the opposite sex  Not your mother, surely? Whore! Don't mention that slut!!Talk about...TV  I watch sometimes. I must look out for the snake. Beware the temptress!Talk about...the future  Russia's future. There is no future! Can't you see? The dark ones are closing in... Man has betrayed himself!Talk about...religion Too late! Hold the dark ones back if you can. An hour, a day. Pray. The churches are doomed, along with all the rest!Ask about...the neighbors in general. Condemned! All of them, except the evil ones' servants.Ask about...the Ryumins Condemned!Ask about... the Nakhimovs Condemned!Ask about...the Ulyanovs You dare to utter that abomination in my presence?Ask for...water I can't give you water! It would poison anyone except me... That's the protection, you see!Ask for...vodka Are you completely mad? That's one of the dark ones' ways of penetrating your physical plane! I need a drink, damnit. I'm sick of this guy. Is lunacy a Yasakev family trait or what?   Alt Dialogue Ask for...his name Yasakev. And yours? Maksim Rukov. I see... The numbers seem to fit!Oddly enough, he doesn't seem to react in any way if you give your name as 'the dark one.' If you leave without pissing him off:   Related: Ask about...Yasakev Poor Fyodor Yasakev! Such a tormented fellow. What can be the cause of his unhappiness?
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Ah, I love it when games have almost entirely pointless areas that you can explore - Yasakev even gets a nice portrait. I suspect that means he'll be relevant to the main plot later on, but for now, if he and the old couple are just extras - well, interesting! I'm disappointed you're going to slow down your updates, but at least they'll still be daily!
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Interlude – People of Shining Future, part 2 Apartment 3 – The Nakhimovs  We knock on the door, and it opens.   I'm looking for a man called Hollywood. I don't suppose...? Does this look like a place where someone called Hollywood would live? Smell the boiled cabbage, comrade! I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you some questions. What questions? Communism's supposed to be dead! And still it's questions and more questions! Could we talk inside your apartment? No. My wife's unwell and I don't have time. Goodnight.He re-enters the apartment. He seemed a bit edgy. Is he hiding something?Alt dialogue Local citizens “Stamp Out Crime” squad. May I come in? Only communists could invent such things! What crime have I committed? Answer my questions truthfully, and you have nothing to fear. You sound more like the chekists! Lunatic!He re-enters the apartment. --or-- None! We'd like your help, that's all. Information. The militia on strike or what? I don't know anything, believe me. Can I ask you a few questions? What do you want to know? I'm investigating a criminal organization inside this apartment building. Try the Ryumins in apartment 4. They probably keep written accounts of their toilets!He re-enters the apartment. Apartment 4 – The Ryumins The door opens.  Why do you ask? I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you some questions. Questions? What about? Someone named Hollywood. Neither me nor my wife know of any such person.He re-enters the apartment. Nice and succinct.Alt dialogue : Are you from the club? No. Who are you and what do you want? Local citizens "Stamp Out Crime" group. May I come in? It's rather late, comrade. Perhaps you would care to come tomorrow? So you're in favor of criminals! Don't be ridiculous. Please don't bother me for no good reason.--or-- Are you from the club? You're a perceptive man! I've already asked you people not to bother us. We have no vodka. We don't want to drink your vodka. Go home.Apartment 5 – The Belussovs When we first knock on the door: From inside the apartment, a man's voice calls out...  The superintendent’s in number 7! She's not a superintendent. I just got here and I already know more about this place than he does.Let's try knocking again. All right. I'm coming!The door opens.  Comrade Belussov? What? I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you some questions. What if I don't want to answer no questions? Careful with the grammar, comrade! Sorry, comrade. I've got a big mouth. An' your breath stinks, slimeface!He goes back into the apartment. Alt dialogue I'm listening! I'm looking for a man. I'm already married, har har! What man? I've never met him. Probably mafia. Anyone like that around here? So, why pick on me? I'm a family man with responsibilities and so on! Nervous about something, comrade? Guilty secrets? Go stick a turnip up your rear end!He goes back into the apartment. Apartment 6 – The Sytenkos A beefy man opens the apartment door.   Comrade Tupolev? Would you mind participating in an opinion poll? It's about your working habits. Not interested. Try someone else. The Nakhimovs in apartment 3. I need my sleep!With a yawn, he goes back into his apartment.  Guess I came at the wrong time.Alt dialogue Local citizens “Stamp Out Crime” group. May I come in? They're not doing their job! That's not my fault, is it? All concerned citizens must cooperate. What do you want me to do? Patrol the streets? Precisely. Report back here in two hours. With a yawn, he goes back into his apartment. Apartment 8 - Yevdokia Chevchenkova The door opens.  Local citizens “Stamp Out Crime” group. May I come in? Well, no. I never allow strangers in, you see. Sorry to trouble you at this time. Are you lost? Would you mind answering some questions? I'm afraid I have a little trouble with my hearing. Try Pavel Belussov in apartment 5.
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Update 5 – On the Trail   We've got the clipboard. Now, time to talk to the apartment 7 girl. We knock on her door.   Politics. Crime. I see! Well, come in!  Klara, this man is asking questions about crime. I love jewel thieves. Creeping over roofs in moonlight... No. It's for an opinion poll.Inspect the young woman A strong, intelligent-looking girl.Inspect Klara A dreamer.  Your apartment is...modern. Thank you. It is, isn't it. Now, let's get started with this opinion poll. What are your jobs? I'm a librarian. I'm a secretary.Ask about...local crime Crime's everywhere. It's inevitable given the current socioeconomic situation. You'll need something to write with! drat it, I forgot a pen. I sure am terrible at poll-taking. Are they really buying this act? That short-haired girl seems pretty intelligent. She can probably see right through me. What about you, Klara? What do you think about local crime? Dreadful, isn't it? Good answer. Are you or have you ever been a criminal? Who hasn't? Well, I once called comrade Burlatski, he was a geography teacher, a smelly old goat because he kept leaning over me in class and drooling. Do you know any hardened criminals? Depends what you mean by hardened! I don't think so. Do mafia-type people frequent this building? If they want to. I suppose in the club over the bar. drat it. I'm out of ideas for questions.Ask for... a cigarette That's a nasty habit. So inconsiderate.  Ask for...a glass of vodka I'm sorry. We don't have any.Ask for...a glass of tea Of course. Ask for...their names My name is Kl... That's a strange question for an opinion poll! All right. She's got me. I'm not really doing an opinion poll. Quite... interesting dialogue options we have here. I'm on the trail of some murderers. Maybe you can help me find them. Why the pretense about opinion polls? I couldn't say anything in the hallway. That makes sense. I need your help. Well, if we can help, we will. What do you want to know? Ask about...strange goings on in the building. Nothing strange. Yasakev in apartment 2 is unusual. Well, the club has lots of strange people. And there's comrade Yasakev in apartment 2. He's funny.Ask about...the bar We never go there. It's just a snake bar. It's so yukky! I went there once. It's all drunk men!Ask about...the Enthusiastic Progress Club We avoid it. A seedy place, full of drunks and pimps! They leave by the corridor here every night, knocking on our door and laughing.Ask about... the meatshop Well, it's not privately run, so there's never any meat. Comrade Sytenko never has meat. Except for friends, I think.Ask for...their names My name is Klara Ponomareva. And yours? Kliment Kruglov. Hello! My name is Zhanna Chizkhova. Why do you ask? I'd like to go out with you sometime. That might be interesting. So does she want to or not?Ask about...the neighbors in general Nothing special about them. Belussov in apartment 5 is a pig. Who else? There's that nice old Yevdokia Chevchenkova in apartment 8. She's deaf but she's sweet. She loves cats. The others... normal. Most are old and sad, except for the Ulyanovs in apartment 1. Poor old Sytenko in apartment 6 lost his wife about 6 months ago. Heart attack. Who else...? Roman Nakhimov in apartment 3 is a very fine person. Very nice.Ask about...the Ulyanovs Well, they keep to themselves, mostly. A charming old couple. They seem very gentle. They're retired now. I don't know what they used to do.Ask about...the Ryumins Very odd character, Ryumin. Seems to be looking over his shoulder all the time. Gosh! He's a yukky character. Always watching everything.Ask about...the Belussovs Well, he's just an oaf, you know. Disgusting. Belussov's a drunken swine! A dolt and a loudmouth.Ask about...Yasakev Yasakev's a lunatic, but harmless. He believes in the devil! He mutters. I think he's an accountant or something. Gives me the shivers.Ask about...the Nakhimovs Roman Yurevich is a very fine man. His wife's not good enough for him. He's so handsome! His wife doesn't understand him at all! When I visited him, he seemed like a jerk. On the other hand, I was bothering him with strange questions at dinnertime.Ask about...the Sytenkos I don't know how he lives! Lost his wife and never has any meat in his shop. He's been so sad since his wife died. He runs the meatshop by the bar.Ask about... comrade Chevchenkova She lives by herself. Sometimes her son visits. I've never seen him. Nice old lady. She goes out almost every night to feed stray cats! Must cost a fortune. That old lady? She's just old, you know. Shaky and everything. These girls seem trustworthy enough. I'm looking for a man. A particular man a type? Well! You've come to the wrong apartment! I mean in the building. We know everybody, I think. You give me the first letter and I'll guess the name! H. Let me see... No, there's no H in the building. I only know a nickname, Hollywood. Do you know anyone by that name? No. Nobody. It's not even a real name, anyway. An adventurous name! I wish I knew someone like that. Can you think of anyone with a similar name, or a job in films? I've no idea. Well, he's a criminal type. Yes, I see. You should sneak into the club! They're all criminals there. I'm investigating a criminal organization based in this building. No. A friend of mine was killed by someone here. I'm almost sure some militia people are involved. Well, I'm not surprised by what you say. You think there are criminals here?! The club, probably. It's over the bar. Now that I think of it, you ought to question Pavel Belussov in apartment 5. He spent a year in Lefortovo prison. For theft. He came here, drunk and sobbing, one night and told us. Could be your man. I felt sorry for him. But then he laughed and boasted about how he'd fooled them or something. He's horrible! When he got out of Lefortovo, his brother-in-law or someone he knows, who's a factory manager, gave him a job and Belussov got a new Moscow resident's permit. And he tried to rape Zhanna! Pig! Well, they were certainly a big help. I got a lot of information about all the people in the building, and I got a major suspect: Pavel Belussov. 
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Some of this music is really good. It's amazing what adventure games did with midi keyboards back in the day.
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It's nice to see that you can actually investigate and get a response without getting a game over.
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The conversations in this game are so abrupt and disjointed. Maks talking to someone sounds like two Turing Tests talking at each other. 
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The soundtrack reminds me so much of SMT... so much. Also wow some of these conversational options are... interesting.
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Update 5b - Bonus If you talk to Klara instead of Zhanna about your criminal investigation: I'm investigating a criminal organization based in this building. Quite possibly, comrade. We must scotch their dastardly plots! What can we do? I'll dress up as an old lady! Excellent plan! In the meantime, have you noticed anything suspicious? Let me see... There's comrade Chevchenkova in apartment 8 who goes out every night! Oh, Klara. You know she goes out to feed the stray cats... That could be a cover, Zhanna. Perhaps she's passing secret messages! Now that I think of it, you ought to question Pavel Belussov in apartment 5.The conversation continues as normal from there. The Opposite Sex You can choose one of two topics for your opinion poll. Here's the other one: Ah, you've got it. What's the opinion poll about? Not the agricultural sector, I hope. The opposite sex. I see! Well, come in. How bizarre! I wonder if I'm normal. Must people... Klara, please! Let him ask his questions and we shall see. Your apartment is...romantic Thank you. Yes, isn't it? May I look around your lovely apartment? Of course. I'm sorry. This isn't a zoo. And we hardly know you! Do you prefer sex with intellectuals or workers? That's a silly question.(Oddly enough, you can only ask this question to Klara.) Do you prefer sex with bearded or clean-shaven men? Bearded. That's a silly question. Do you prefer sex with strangers? I have no preference. Well, they never are, are they? I mean, when you've met them. Very profound, Klara. Would you like to have sex with me? Clipboards remind me of laboratories. Ugh! drat. Do you think love is another word for sex? I don't know. What do you think? I'm asking the questions. Yes. What do you think, Zhanna? They are both aspects of passion. That's what Pushkin thought. Your literary tastes aren't exactly modern, are they? The eternal is always relevant! Do you think love is possible? Oh yes. Turgenev knew that. That's nonsense. His vision was pessimistic! How can you say that?! The underlying tension is so positive! You're a highly sensitive human being. Sometimes I wish I weren't. What do you think, Klara? I don't know. What do you think? I'll just write down I don't know. Neither of us knows! I'm not really doing an opinion poll. Then what do you want? I've heard you enjoy casual sex. Who told you that? It's a secret. Well, it's quite untrue. Spontaneous passion is not casual sex! Leave!--or-- Who told you that? Hollywood. I detest American culture, precisely because they devalue everything. Out! This doesn't cause a game-over. However, because you didn't get the necessary information, you can't progress further. I'm investigating a criminal organization based in this building. What?! Are you a militiaman? No. I'm an undercover KGB officer! I see. Well, would you show me your ID, please? I don't have any. Too dangerous. I'm sorry, but if there are criminals here, then I'll need proof that you're not one of them. You'll have to leave now. 
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EphemeralToast posted:The conversations in this game are so abrupt and disjointed. Maks talking to someone sounds like two Turing Tests talking at each other. That's kind of the problem with these sorts of dialogue trees. Ask about, talk about, etc. Sometimes I mix together various dialogue options, so that might be part of it.
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Update 6 – Meet the Belussovs     I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you some questions. I'm investigating a criminal organization based in this building. Exactly! I'm looking for a criminal and I need a mature opinion! Yeah?! Well, come into the apartment!We follow him inside.   A little crowded in here. Didn't expect Belussov to be a family man.Inspect the plump woman  Coping with difficulty.Inspect the strapping lad  Clearly terrified of you.Inspect the old woman  She resents her daughter-in-law.Inspect Belussov  A jovial type. Possibly alcoholic. Good evening. Good evening. I didn't invite you in! Ugh. How rude. Charming family you have! My mother. Mother, this man is here on business! What business? How should I know? He only just come in! Bizness! Not like the old days. In them days, any bizness and you earned a bullet.! Please mother, this is important business. This is my wife Nonna Vladimirovna. Silly cow. And Mitya. Get us a drink, Mitya! This stuff isn't half bad. So, how can I help? Shut the baby up...You hear what I say, cow? It's your baby too, Pasha! Why d'ya put vodka in his cabbage water? He's sick, poor thing. Go to bed Mitya. Snug apartment! drat Easterners and Georgians! Get all the apartments! I'm a Russian! Supposed to have 5 square meters each! Had to kill my drat dog when the last baby came. No room! I had to kill it, you mean! He was still alive when you finished clubbing him... Poor dog. Shut up, you cow. You don't know nutt'n! You said he went to live with uncle Roma in the country! You was told to go to your bed! And those Armenian exploiters with all their money! Selling radioactive lettuce. Who cares? Any swine can afford their prices deserves to glow in the dark, har har!Ask for...a cigarette A cigarette?! Haven't smoked for months. You seen the black market prices?Talk about...prices Know what I think? I think the... Mitya, I told you to... I don't want to go to bed! It's late! Just do what you're told or I'll swipe you! What'd I tell you, Pasha! She's beating your son! Look, I'm tryin' to discuss problems here! Doesn't sound like it! You're just gabbin' about nutt'n, while this cow is beating my grandson. If your father... Okay, okay. No more gabbin'. Just ask your questions, okay? Mitya, go to bed. No, give us a drink. Uh, well... That's enough talk. Time to get down to business. I'm trying to trace someone called Hollywod. Hold on. Nonna, shut that kid's face! He's sick! He had too much dinner.Pasha always had vodka in his tea when he was a baby! Made a man of him. Turned into a good for nothing when he married you! Mitya, go to bed. I put clean sheets in the bathtub. A man! Huh! The tap leaks! I'm all wet in the mornings! Why can't the baby... Well, sleep with your head under the tap. That way, you'll never get thirsty. Har har! ...about Hollywood? Who's he? Never heard of him. Doesn't live here. I don't get the feeling that Belussov's Hollywood. He seems more like a petty crook to me. Oh well, maybe I can still get some useful information out of him. Ask about...the neighbors in general Ach! Filth. Not fit to live in the same building as my boy! Nothing suspicious. Respectable types. Except for those two sluts in apartment 7, Chizkhova and Ponomareva. Nymphomaniacs! Anything in pants... Except you, of course. Anatoli Sytenko in apartment 6 is probably a black marketeer: he runs the meatshop with not much meat! Aha. Another suspect.Ask about...the Ulyanovs Just old farts! Think they're better than everyone else.Ask about...Yasakev That fairy?! Mad, he is. Talks to himself!Ask about...the Nakhimovs That beardy spends his time sniffing around the sluts in apartment 7.Ask about...the Sytenkos Poor oaf's wife died. Keeps himself to himself.Ask about...Ponomareva and Chizkhova Randy as rabbits! Always giving you the come on, you know?Ask about..comrade Chevchenkova Senile old hag. Feeds cats outside. Now they're all over the place. Complained about my dog. He used to love chasing them!Ask about...strange goings on in the building. You mean like suspicious stuff? No, nutt'n I ever seen.Ask about...the bar Just a bar. I sometimes go in for a beer.Ask about...the Enthusiastic Progress Club Only people in there are black marketeers and lowlifes.Ask about...the meatshop Just a meatshop with not much meat.Ask about...local crime How should I know? I work all the time.Ask about...his job  Your brother-in-law the manager there? You started there when you left Lefortovo? How the hell should I know, stupid cow! Stupid thing to say! I told you this would... Shut your stupid face, cow! I don't know anything about Lefortovo! Why should I? What kind of a question... Pasha's a good citizen! His father fought at... Too late, Belussov. I know everything! You've got problems, moron. Those two cows blabbed! Listen, I'm leading an honest life now. I swear! You mean you were sniffing round those two again! I told... It wasn't nothing, Nonna! I swear! They was leading me on! All the same! Can't resist a real man! A real man, this drunken dogbrain?! And those bitches in heat! Okay, okay. Nutt'n happened. We just talked some. You know. Yes, I know. Peabrain. Start talking, or that Moscow resident's permit gets torn up! That's a labour camp for traitors and suchlike scumbags. Afterwards, he lived in Novosibirsk or some drat place, and he only got to Moscow because of Sakharov and Gorbachev! The little runt spends his life spying. He's your criminal, not me! So leave me alone! We find ourselves back out on the landing. I'm just glad to be out of there. So, Ryumin, apartment 4. He could be my man, but I doubt it. Hollywood's a black marketeer, not a spy. Though I suppose he could be both. Still, I'll try him and see what he knows.We head down the stairs.    Why do you ask? I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you some questions. Remember Wrangel Island? Dear God! You'd better come inside! Luda, please don't worry. This man knows about my stay in the gulag. Oh, Edik! Will the torture never end?  I'm looking for criminals. And I thing you can help me. Oh God, Edik! He thinks you're a criminal!  Kliment Kruglov. I represent the red banner bicycle brake unit. What do you want? Please be brief. My wife is unwell. I'm trying to find someone called Hollywood. Dear God! I don't know what you're talking about? Who is Hollywood? Leave God out of this, you traitor! Tell the truth, or else! Lord, help us now. Edik, we must pray! Yes my love. Dear God, forgive our torturers... God was purged and liquidated a long time ago! God forgive you your blasphemy! I want full details of your present criminal activities. You're all the same! You think distributing bibles makes me a gangster! Tell me what you know of untrustworthy people in this building. The club, go there. They are all godless gangsters. How do you know? Tell me about the club. We would never go there! I know none of them. Just to see them is enough to know they are wicked! Tell me about your neighbors. Anything criminal? I'm not the militia! Those two young women in apartment 7 are undoubtedly prostitutes. Belussov is a hooligan! Anatoli Sytenko in apartment 6 clearly has dealings with black-marketeers: the only clients he's had in his meatshop since his poor wife died are gangsters and they certainly never buy meat! He doesn't seem to have any! Tell him to go, Edik! No sooner have the Ryumins kicked us out than...      Whew. I guess they didn't notice me. Anyway, Ryumin said some interesting things. I doubt Zhanna and Klara are prostitutes. It's true that Belussov's a hooligan, but he's not much more than that. Sytenko, though... That's three people that have mentioned his empty meatshop. I'd better take a look.
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I remember playing this as a kid and repeatedly hearing Donald Sutherland say, "You have made borscht of it, Maks. Try again." It'll be interesting to finally find out just what the hell is going on.
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Oh drat, this is one of those games that haunts me. I played and replayed this many times in the early to mid 90's. I'll be keeping an eye on this, good work so far, you've already gotten much further than I ever did. It will be nice to see just how it all plays out.
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Intelligence gathering by encouraging the neighbors to rat each other out. Yep, that's pretty KGB.
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I'd never heard of this game before, but it looks great. I've always really liked watching how the West views the people and the society that the USSR created, especially towards the end - I heard a lot of it from my parents, but the outsider viewpoint is great too. This game seems to get it spot on though - the ridiculous propaganda slogans are as Soviet as it gets. Beware subversive pessimism!
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God was purged and liquidated a long time ago is by far the funniest line so far, and it's up against some stiff competition.
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One thing I forgot about this game is the rocking electronic soundtrack. Not quite as good as the composer's Dune soundtrack, but pretty interesting. As MinistryofLard says, it's an interesting look at 1990 Russia. The little details it gets right or grossly wrong...
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Xander77 posted:One thing I forgot about this game is the rocking electronic soundtrack. Not quite as good as the composer's Dune soundtrack, but pretty interesting. Really? What does it get wrong?
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Update 6 Bonus Really short one today. Ryumin This alternate conversation path sheds more light on Ryumin's past. I'm looking for criminals. And I think you can help me. Oh God, Edik! He thinks you're a criminal! It's only to be expected, my dear. We must be strong! Who are you, young man? Talk, Ryumin, or the whole building will hear about your past! How do I know you won't tell them all anyway? I'm not interested in you. I just want information! What do you want to know? Living conditions on Wrangel island? Yes. What were your numerous crimes? My crimes were anti-Soviet agitation and distributing anti-Soviet propaganda. I handed out bibles to some friends. What else do you want?Belussov I'm a foreman at the Glorious Horizons tire plant. Important work, comrade All must unite in the mighty struggle to attain planned quotas!--or-- Quite a lot of unofficial earnings, selling to impatient clients, eh? You suggestin' something'?! Your reaction is proof of your honesty. 'course I'm honest!
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Update 7 – The Enthusiastic Progress Club  We head over to Sytenko's empty meatshop.   We try knocking on the door, but...  Hello! Anyone in there? I remember seeing a door right around the corner. Maybe it's connected to the meatshop.  drat it. I wish Department P had given me a lockpick. Ah well. I'll go back and talk to Sytenko.Later...   We knock on door 6.     Anatoli Sytenko? I'm a private detective and I'd like to ask you a few questions. What questions? I'm investigating a criminal organization based in this building. I intend on talking to all the residents,  Perhaps you've noticed unusual behaviour? You look like the type that misses nothing. I've noticed nothing. Try asking the Ulyanovs in apartment 1. Maybe Ryumin was on to something. Sytenko definitely seemed too defensive. I think he's hiding something, but I'll put that particular thread on hold for a moment. Next stop – the Enthusiastic Progress Club. But first, I'd better get rid of the clipboard before someone recognizes it as stolen property. We unceremoniously dump the clipboard on the floor.    Forgive me. I left my card at home. I was only joking! Allow me to contribute to club funds! I, uh, fixed it with Yuri downstairs. Aha! Well, that's most definitely a consideration... How about $40? Welcome to the Enthusiastic Progress Club, sir. My name is Valeri Andreivich. Allow me to serve you some of our best vodka, courtesy of the establishment.     Tough-looking crowd here tonight. Including some familiar faces.Inspect Petka  A crafty young fellow but weak. Without his hefty partner, he wouldn't amount to very much.Inspect Lyonka  Not too smart but he's clearly necessary to his friend. I saw those two thugs in the apartment earlier.   The other's twin brother. Those twins give me the shivers. He seems to think he's managing a 5 star hotel! The manager probably knows something about his customers. Maybe he'll share. A classy setup you have here. We find it congenial, sir.Ask for...a drink Certainly, sir. Have a drink on me! Deeply touching of you, sir.We have another drink.  Ugh. Not again. <hic>Ask about...the club A quiet place, sir, as you can see. Normally reserved for people in private enterprise activity.Ask about...him I used to manage a public sanitary convenience. My skills led me to being employed as the manager of this exclusive club. The owners appear satisfied.Ask about...the club's owners  This is where they dry-clean their misgotten rubles, eh? We offer no such service to our members, sir.Talk about...local private enterprise A serious subject, sir. Well beyond my managerial competence.Talk about...the past Such complex issues! I'm sure your views would interest many of our members.Ask about...some gambling action round here I'd mingle with the other members if I were you, sir. All right, I can take a hint. Maybe that punk over by the window knows something.Inspect the punk  A skinny fellow with crafty eyes. He's a shady-looking fellow, but he probably knows something about the criminal underworld. May I join you? Long as you don't bore me, grandad. He's an obnoxious one.Ask about...the other members  Why do you come, then? Business, old one. That little poo poo. I'm only 25! Any people with serious money? What do they buy? They've got money, so they buy expensive product. Are they here now? You sound like law, old man. Smell bad too. My advice is relax. drat it. Does he know?Ask for...a light No. Against my principles. Are you selling? What've you got? And information? You deliver that too? I'm not sure why 'businessmen' is spelled that way, to be honest. I'd like to know about any important “biznessmen” around here. Can't help, grandad.Talk about...drug abuse in Moscow  Don't you think hard drugs destroy people? Alcohol kills people, war, Chernobyl. They're the killers, grandad. Maybe he has a point, but I'm done talking to him. Let's see... When I first walked in here, someone waved at me. I don't want to keep him waiting.  Inspect the young hustler  This is the character who caught your attention when you came into the club. His eyes are friendly and intelligent.Well, seems like he might be worth talking to. Evening! Nice to see you. New here? First time. And you? I sometimes come in, see if there's any action. Any tonight? Not much. I'm patient. Let me tell you. I deal in high quality foreign films. On video cassette. How would you like The Maltese Falcon? You won't find this in any drat state store. The Maltese what? You'll love it. The Maltese Falcon. A classic! Sounds like a stupid movie. No culture! Fed on communist propaganda! Uncultured? Not true! I like some western stuff, like James Bond... Wait a second. The contact's codename is Hollywood, and this guy sells American movies. That could be related. I'm Buyer 2. Pleased to meet you. I'm Video. You really should buy this tape, you know. He didn't recognize the code phrase. Guess he isn't Hollywood.Ask about...his job I buy and sell, when I can. To hell with communist bureaucrats! Care for a drink? No thanks, I've had enough. I'm just waiting around. Me too.Talk about...the film industry Investment's what's needed. If I could find some backers! The west is drowning in films that the Russian public would pay to see. With money, I could import thousands of excellent products, open a gigantic store. Progress is too slow! Communists everywhere!Ask for...a cigarette Sure! That was nice of him.Talk about...crime Crime's just a word! What's legal today isn't tomorrow and vice versa. An illegal film would be legal today if those politicians would do things instead of talking. Look at Gorbachev, running round in circles trying to hold things together when he should be opening up the country to capitalist progress! A lot of people rag on Gorbachev for moving too fast with perestroika, but this guy's the opposite.Talk about...business Business has to be illegal here if you want to make money and take the opportunities. Bureaucracy's choking us to death! That's why I'm in this club now, hoping for some gangster to show up and help me get things moving. So he's not a gangster himself. Or so he says.Ask about...someone called Hollywood Interesting you should mention that name! I can sell you a classic American movie, perfectly copied to video tape, The Maltese Falcon. Exclusive! How much? Let's see. For you, my friend, 5 American dollars only. Well, it's pretty cheap. Plus, the guy gave me his last cigarette. Can't hurt. A wise choice!Ask about...the other members I know that some are involved in my line of business, but who they are I don't know. I wish I did. I need backers to expand my business. Communists don't understand that. This club gets more depressing every time I come! Careful who you talk to! The ugly twins in the other room, for instance; if I were you, I'd steer clear of them. They belong to a gang that hangs around here and they're mean. They're called Gleb and Oleg. The other clients are harmless. Except for the two punks; they're in the other room too. Pair of street muggers!
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red mammoth posted:Really? What does it get wrong? As to more common factual mistakes, they are mostly concentrated in latter parts of the game, so I'll go over them then, rather than spoil anything. Still, even for conspiracy media, there's just a lot of fundamental misunderstandings of how the USSR government / secret services worked, nevermind their responsibilities. Edit - Oh yeah, just one example: Obviously the KGB is not in charge of the GRU, and people can no more be "ordered" transferred from one branch to the other than one can be ordered transferred to the CIA from the military intelligence branch.
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Just wanna say that this is a pretty cool LP, so thanks for making it  .And now I'm suddenly interested in reading about the social consequences of the economic transition that Russia did when the Soviet Union fell. I don't know that much about it, but some poster mentioned that they got a few things very right and a few things very wrong. I know there was a lot of corruption, exploitation, poverty and so on and I think that the game shows that well. What is it the game doesn't show well? Time to find something to read about it. Edit: Welp, poster just replied.
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And what does it get right?
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red mammoth posted:And what does it get right? Seriously though, this was written by people with at least superficial knowledge of Russia, and that's more than you could expect from most games / movies / books set in the area. Russian naming conventions are used correctly, and those can be hard for foreigners to follow. KGB personnel (and presumably other party functionaries) still use "comrade" as a form of address, but it's out of fashion (except ironically) amongst the civilian population (Russia still doesn't have a standardized polite form of "hey you" to replace "товарищ", for somewhat elaborate reasons). In general, the end of the 80's was a complicated time, with free enterprise and organized crime making the first inroads into an ostensibly communist country. Little media focuses on that era, as the wild 90's provide a greater scope for political machinations / gun battles on the streets of Moscow, but the game's settings seems to represent the spirit of the time accurately enough.
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Xander77 posted:Moscow isn't entirely covered in snow regardless of the time of the year. But even though the game explicitly is set in august (sometime between the 4. and the 19., given that Gorbatsjov is said to be at the Black Sea but the putsch hasn't occurred yet), people still dress like this:  And the meat shop is for some reason labelled "Morozhe oe", presumably a mangled form of "Morozhenoe", the common short form of "morozhenoe moloko" (ice cream, though literally meaning "frozen milk")
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Chapter 7b - Bonus Sytenko I'm investigating a criminal organization based in this building. Why did you come to me? Don't be so defensive, comrade! Ask your questions elsewhere, comrade!He slams the door in your face. --or-- Why did you come to me? I intend talking to all the residents. I don't know any criminals! Come now, comrade. We aren't children! Listen, I don't have to take this from you! Just clear off!He slams the door in your face. If you asked him about Hollywood on your first meeting with him: Hello again. So, what can I do for you this time? Are you sure that Hollywood means nothing? Like I said, I can't help. Did you ask at the club? No one knows anything. Any ideas about what I can do? What do you take me for? Whatever your game is, leave me out of it!He goes back into the apartment. --or-- I think you know more than you're telling. True? No. Now I've answered your questions. Goodnight.He slams the door in your face. Punk Are you selling? Later. What's your poison? Very kind of you! A vodka please. Stupid old fart! I mean what are you buying? Oh, I see! What will it be, vodka or vodka? Forget it. Tell me about your part in the October revolution.--or-- Later. What's your poison? Siberian weed. Whatever you want, I can deliver. Mostly. I'm firmly opposed to the use of such drugs. Who cares. Go home and polish your Party medals.Drunk Evening! You know nothing, do you, eh?Ask about...the other members You silly little nincompoop! That's all.Talk about...crime How could you know? Nothing! Stupid...Talk about...politics You know absolutely nothing. At all!Ask about...him I know. I've seen it. I know all about death. The smell. You know nothing about it. Piles of bodies. Hundreds.Ask about...the piles of bodies You're sitting on them. Don't you know that?! Hundreds of years of dead Moscovites, buried everywhere. Can't you smell the corpses? They didn't burn them, you see!Talk about...violence What do you know? Nothing. There's the truth.Ask about...someone called Hollywood Hollywood! That little runt over there?! Businessman calls himself. Knows nothing about nothing!The couple next to the drunk don't have much to say. They just leave as soon as you talk to them. If you enter the Enthusiastic Progress Club with the clipboard: What are you doing with my clipboard? Gentlemen, we have a thief!  
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Update 8 – Meatshop (MT32)We just bought a copy of The Maltese Falcon off of a black-market video dealer. Let's check it out. Inspect the video tape  Unmarked. Hopefully he didn't just rip me off and give me a blank tape. Anyway, he mentioned that the twins on the other side of the bar are involved in criminal activity. Not a surprise to me, but sounds like it's worth checking out.We head to the front part of the club.    That was fast. Quiet night! Shut your face, vomit-brain! Yeah. Crawl somewhere and die, slug-face! Waste of time. Now what? I know! Another drink!   We head into the bathroom.     Inspect the toilet bowl This toilet has given many years dutiful service. Inspect the flush unit This example of Soviet know-how is in perfect working order. Inspect the trashcan  I don't think that's sugar...Inspect the small clear plastic bag   Now, what would my father do? Maybe he'd try to disrupt the drug trade, which would disrupt the profits of various criminal organizations. Or maybe he'd just leave it be, to avoid attracting attention while on an important mission. I don't know. If you take the cocaine to the police, it will be back on the black market in an hour and at a higher price, no doubt. Just flush it down the toilet and be done with this vile business. Wow. Dad was more cynical than I remembered. Well, that's good advice. I don't want to end up a corrupt scumbag like the people I'm supposed to be policing. I'll flush it down the toilet. We dump it in the toilet. Might as well do what I came here to do.  Much better. Shame there's no sink.  drat it. If they found out what I did to that bag... Whew. They don't seem to be pointing their fingers at me...yet. Still, I'm running out of leads. Maybe Petka and Lyonka are connected to Hollywood. Worth a try. Mind if I join you? Yeah, we mind. Don't we, Petka? Course we don't mind! I we minded all the time, we'd never make new friends, Lyonka. You've got a point! We don't mind a bit! This place is too quiet tonight. I know some people who're throwing a great party. You want to come with Petka and me? A party? Well, I'm a bit busy, actually.  Ask about...the club Nice. Eh, Petka? Not very nice, Lyonka, no. You sure you don't want to come with us to the party? Worth a try, no? Just how stupid do these guys think I am? Guess they didn't see me listening in on their conversation in the stairwell.You decide...not to go I know these guys are criminals. How can I know if they're connected to Hollywood? Only one way to find out. I'm Buyer 2. You what? What you take me for? Shut up, Lyonka. The gentleman says he's Buyer 2. Exactly, Petka. So? So, we say oh? Oh? Why... Because we want to know a little more before we believe him. Right? Right! Tell us more and then we might believe you! Who are you two bozos? Who do you think, Buyer 2? Stop playing games, junior. Where's Hollywood? Hollywood. That's more like it. He's not here. We are. Why isn't he here? That wasn't the arrangement. That's the arrangement now. Take it or leave it. Coming?  I'm suspicious as all hell, but I'll go.   Goddamn it.  Well, here goes nothing.We attack Lyonka.  Yeah! I got 'em! Oh. He's dead. Maybe I shouldn't have hit him so hard. Well, at least I got a lockpick.Inspect the lockpick  A well-crafted gadget. I was trying to help this drunken fool to his feet. Where have you been? We were waiting for you! Go home, old man. Mother Russia thanks you, grandfather! Thanks he says! Try living on it!With that, he's out of here. That was too close. I have to hide the body, fast, before the militia get here. I killed Lyonka in self-defense, mostly, but I'm supposed to keep a low profile. The militia getting involved would ruin the entire mission. If I recall, there was a trashcan nearby. We move Lyonka's body to the right.   We dump his body in the trashcan.  The trash collectors will be in for an unpleasant surprise tomorrow morning. Hopefully by then, I'll be out of here.At the meatshop...   Time to try out our new toy.   We try the other door.    Better not to attract too much attention.We use the matches on the matchbox.    Inspect the fridge It looks like it should have retired twenty years ago. Inspect the calendar The cover features honest toilers of the agricultural sector. No significant dates have been circled. There's nothing of interest in here. That door looks like it leads to the meatshop, though.  We light another match.   Inspect the counter Bloodstained. Inspect the meathooks No meat. Inspect the cold-door A solidly-built cold-room door. A plastic-coated wire emerges from the wall beside the door-frame and runs discreetly as far as the cash desk. Doesn't look like there's anything meaningful in here. I'll keep searching.Inspect the cash desk Concealed beneath the cash desk is a switch beside which is a red diode. The diode emits no light.  Inspect the switch and diode A plastic-coated wire runs discreetly from the switch-box to the wall and continues to where it disappears under the frame of the cold-room door, at door-handle height. That's probably an alarm.We flick the switch.  Hopefully, no light means the alarm's on, and red light means it's off. I'd guess so, because why wouldn't Sytenko leave the alarm on? I'm taking a bit of a gamble here, though. Well, on through the cold-door.  We light another match.  drat cold in here. Strange. Everyone says that Sytenko has no meat in his meatshop. That looks like meat. 
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It sure didn't take long to get from "go eat a hamburger, you oaf" to "you just beat a man to death with your bare fists, hid his body in a trash can, and threw up from the sight of mutilated bodies on meathooks."
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If you're trying to gather intelligence and not let people know you're onto them, vomiting all over their collection of murder victims probably isn't the best way to be subtle.
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Guess there is a butcher, of men, not meat.
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Welp, I did not expect a serial killer in this game.
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Update 8b – Bonus Svetka and Grisha Inspect Svetka  An eager blonde.Inspect Grisha  A rather bored youngster. Good evening. Hmph. Oh, Grisha! You're so rude. Good evening!Ask about...the club Call this hole a club?!Ask about...the gangsters in the club Gangsters?! These characters couldn't hold up a one-legged wheelchair. Just black market hangers on, hoping someone'll give 'em the big job.Ask about...the other members Second rate criminal riff-raff! Grishukha, please! Just because your uncle's in private business and making lots of money, and he has a car, and holidays abroad! Shut it, Svetka. He's just a lowlife black marketeer. Well, if it wasn't for him, we couldn't have become members here! Think of my career! Who cares! This place is a dump. You see anyone here who even knows what a film producer is? No one's going to ask you to star in anything. Not here. Worthless little brat. Even worse than that punk drug dealer!Talk about...the crime scene All over the place. Nobody wants to work anymore. Everyone for himself.Talk about...night life in Moscow We don't know. We work. Talk about...sports Who takes an interest in sport these days? Now it's just money and hamburgers and “freedom”. Freedom! To do what... consume integrated obsolescence and dream of buying more?! Grisha, will you stop that! You're always complaining! People will get a bad impression. Image is so important, you know. We actresses learn that right at the start. Actresses! Will you never learn? Well, Lilechka's an American star now!Ask about...someone called Hollywood Sounds like a nancy-boy to me. Oh, Grisha! He sounds very interesting. I'd like to meet him. Maybe he's the one Lilechka met!Ask about...Lilechka Stupid cow. Stop it, Grisha! She's a lovely girl. She was invited here to meet a western film producer. I bet she's a star in America now! Petka and Lyonka Quiet night! You should shut your face! Right, Petka? Wrong, Lyonka. The comrade's just being friendly is all. Well, yes. Very quiet night really.Ask about...the club Look for yourself. Yeah! You got eyes, no? Right, Petka? Shut up, Lyonka.Ask about...the members Don't know them. Stupid mostly. Right, Petka? Not exactly, Lyonka.Ask about...him Me? I'm not stupid, if that's what you mean.Talk about...his work Varies. We don't work, do we, Petka? Unless you call do... Shut up, Lyonka. You're boring the comrade to death.Ask about...his girlfriend She's not here. I have lots, don' I, Petka? Har har! Oh, yes, Lyonka, lots 'n' lots.Talk about...drugs Alcohol's my drug.Talk about...politics Some people like it. Not me. Well, har har! I like blood mostly. More'n anything.Ask about...a character called Hollywood What about a character called Hollywood? What's this, uh, Hollywood to you? I'm supposed to meet him here. Know him? Depends who's asking. I'm Buyer 2. Buyer 2! We were wondering when you'd show. Why isn't he here? He sent us to take you to his place. It's about 5 minutes from here. He's waiting. You coming, Buyer 2? I'm Buyer 2. Quite perfectly so, sir. I may just be able to be of service... I see! You're expected, sir! Oleg Yurevich, Gleb Yurevich! This is the gentleman called Buyer 2. Oh yeah? That's good. Glebka, go and find pretty boy. He'll want to be in on the deal.  Don't overdo it. Your brain wouldn't like it. What's that s'posed to mean? Nothing you'd understand. Hell, no! The wife n'kids are down at the bar! I'm thinkin' you're a jokey character, so amusin'.-or-- A little late I'm thinkin' So you're Hollywood! Different from what I expected. Someone less moronic in appearance. I mean I admire the ingenious disguise! I knew that! Where's Romeo and Glebka...--or-- What did you expect? I don't know. Someone less impressive. That's the whole skill of the thing see? I'm beginning to see. I think we'll get on well. Sure. We'll wait for Romeo.After that conversation... Gleb comes back with his friend Romeo.   If you go into the bathroom before the punk, you'll find $200 in the trashcan. What happens if we take it?    Where's my money? No money, no deal! Are you trying to be funny? I put your money in there myself. Wait a minute... That stranger was in the toilet just before me! And you think he stole the money? Let's check...  What happens if we destroy the money we find in the trashcan?  Same dialogue up until the twins search you...   Here are the other outcomes to the fight with Petka and Lyonka...  No way! We can run back into the building or away, but no matter what you pick...   You can obey and try to hand over your goods, but...  After any of this happens, you get this:  A passer-by finally calls an ambulance. You'll be OK in a few weeks, ready for your new assignment! Failure has earned you a 5-year tour of duty on a tiny island somewhere in the arctic circle. Brr! You can also attack Petka instead of Lyonka.   Your miserable failure at the Enthusiastic Progress Club has earned you a 5-year tour of duty at a place called Nordvik, on the Laptev sea, interrogating icicles. What happens if you leave Lyonka's body around for too long?     You also managed to tarnish even further the KGB's reputation. Your next assignment, permanent border-guard duty, near a place called Kraskino, will give you ample time to reflect. I remember a game over that involved getting attacked by the twin thugs on the street if you say Hollywood and Buyer 2 too much (or maybe to the wrong person.) However, I can't seem to be able to find it.
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Oct 5, 2013 21:33
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I'm assuming you get the same militia game-over if you don't manage to bluff that passerby away?
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Oct 6, 2013 22:10
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Keldulas posted:I'm assuming you get the same militia game-over if you don't manage to bluff that passerby away? Actually, no. No matter what you say, the old man doesn't report you to the militia. It kind of makes sense, since he's confused as hell and thinks you're somebody else. Still, I'm surprised that the game forgives you for that little misstep, since it's not exactly a forgiving game.
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Oct 6, 2013 22:30
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