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Bimmi posted:Can someone point me to the episode where China's been anything other than the simpering, timid wannabee girlfriend? Because I haven't seen it yet. Ah, yes, the Gundam of the 80s was definitely a bastion for reasonable, relevant female characters who weren't driven almost entirely by men, how they react to men, or inserted into the show in order to generate pathos for men. Let's list them: -Emma -Roux, kind of? Oh wait, that's it. You're trying really hard to insert an argument about sexism into a show that is pretty innocent. Aila hasn't had a chance to *do* anything yet besides show off her badass credentials to establish her as a threat. China has been a fairly muted background character so far, but she's intended to be representative of the audience member who is totally new to Gunpla(Reiji and Nils certainly aren't because they're bizarro super-geniuses) and is getting an entire episode this week. Kirara's episode was a goofy themed villain of the day story that went out of its way to establish Sei and Reiji having positive opinions of Kirara despite her cheating. She's also showed up in episode previews as attending Gunpla battle events, meaning that she might be a recurring character. Sei's mom rules. Seriously, if Build Fighters is alarmingly sexist to you I'm pretty sure you would commit suicide if you watched AGE.
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Bimmi posted:Sorry, but I think you can do a little better than that, even if you disregard the pretty good number of female characters in First Gundam who weren't any of that cliched bullshit. And at least Tomino attempted to write real people, even if he often failed. So far in GBF we have one meek, mousey milktoast who is almost entirely passive and has no detectable personality apart from "blushes at the hero," a pink-haired collection of over-the top misogynistic phobias with all the charm of fingernails on a blackboard, and someone who may or may not be an example of yet another insultingly lovely and reductive trope, the "cold emotionless killer bitch." And Sei's mom, who again is the only female character in the show that hasn't been completely loving terrible so far. If you think this is all perfectly okay, then hoo boy am I not on your page or even in your book. I shouldn't even have to EXPLAIN why these characters suck. What female characters in MSG escape your rigid criteria of "not sexist"? Matilda existed 100% entirely as a pathos generator for Amuro. Lalah existed as a point of conflict between Char and Amuro and had virtually no agency of her own. Both of these characters were literally created to drive emotional responses and conflict between men. Frau Bow was the definition of a homemaker character. Kycilia was the stereotypical "evil scheming witch". Hamon did absolutely nothing but loving commit suicide the instant her husband died. etc. I shouldn't even have to EXPLAIN why these characters suck. You're fine to have whatever opinions about a show you want, but holding Yoshiyuki motherfucking Tomino up as an example of how to write progressive female characters in 80s Gundam is basically the dumbest thing I've read in ages. This is the man who wrote loving Reccoa and the Shrike Team. You sure do make extremely judgemental conclusions based on single episode snippets of information where nothing offensive has been shown. Lila literally just got introduced and we spent an entire episode of her wrecking everyone placed against her while *grinning smugly* every time she took someone apart. Her first named entry as a character has her rubbing an obvious misogynist's nose(the director) in his own poo poo. Perhaps we should wait until they explain, I don't know, any single thing about her beyond her name and her Gunpla skills before immediately assuming she's a sexist caricature and stoking the disgusted outrage furnace? I also really don't understand why Kirara is so horribly offensive. Because she charmed people and cheated while also having a vagina? Look out, Bandai! We don't want any scenes where females do anything negative or are villain characters, because that would be sexist! Her entire relationship with Sei was meant to put forward that she was lying to herself and actually did like gunpla because no one would have put in that much time if they didn't like it on some level. Both Reiji and Sei are totally cool with her despite her cheating to try to knock people out of the tournament and Sei expresses a desire to talk to her again. The point of the episode is that *really unlikely people* can buy and love these stupid toys that they're fencing. If you drew "Ugh, another kyriarchal example of females as deceitful serpents" from it, you're fishing way too hard. Guys, I think we should get really angry about how Fellini portrays Italians as feminizing idiots, or how Greco portrays Americans as stupid bull-headed idiots. Next we can talk about G Gundam.
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ImpAtom posted:Kirara is literally a reference to the "fake geek girl" thing that is flaring up in both the US and Japan, which is a massively overhyped idea that women are getting into hobbies not because they're fans but because they're trying to leech off the poor innocent male geeks who just can't control themselves around a cute girl. She literally runs down the checklist of these tropes and no amount of 'the characters aren't that mean to her' is going to change that she's a deliberate implementation of a stupid-rear end nerd-fear stereotype in a show which otherwise hasn't provided any counterexamples. The closest is China who, as I mentioned, is getting into Gunpla because she likes Sei. You're entirely right about her introduction. My reasoning for not being annoyed by her is that they're clearly not done with her arc. If she was a one and done, I'd agree wholeheartedly that she was abhorrent, but the only reason for her to still be a character in a show is that they intend to subvert that particular ugly trope. That's why I keep hammering on Sei and Reiji's reaction to her and how she's showing up in the future; I don't think they're planning to stop at "Heh, stupid fake nerd girl got trashed by the REAL nerds". If they don't go any farther than this then I'll gladly retract my sentiment because you and Bimmi will be right. Bimmi posted:I don't know how much more clear I can make it that my issue is not with sexism per se but the quality of the writing. Whatever their shortcomings, the female characters in MSG were characters and not just personality-free cyphers or ridiculous stereotypes. And good job ignoring Sayla and Mirai who are pretty much NOT defined by their "typical female reactions" to the events surrounding them, at least no more so than any normal person would be, but that doesn't exactly fit your argument now does it? Mirai is the most reasonable female character in MSG, I will agree. Sayla, also known as Brother Issues: The Character, is not a great example. There are plenty of individual examples of great female characters in old Gundam. Emma, Roux, and Christina stick out. Kayra from CCA would be interesting if she got any sort of screentime. But they're pretty few and far between, usually one per series. I'm not meaning to imply that old Gundam is an anti-feminist hellscape, because it's not. But you're holding it up as a shining example Build Fighters should adhere to, when Build Fighters is 1. 8 episodes in out of 26 2. Has introduced a total of four female characters so far 3. Only one of those female characters has had an episode so far. It's unfortunate that the one who has had screentime was bad, but we're in early days yet. Please don't generalize people who don't share your opinions into stupid broad groupings. "Oh, GOONS  " is stupid bullshit. I haven't called you a tumblr social warrior and I haven't said "You clearly don't even GET why you're wrong, so I'm not going to engage with you". I have a different opinion than you and I'm saying you should probably wait to see how this shakes out before making detailed character analysis on characters who have had no development or screentime.
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muike posted:I'm pretty sure he would rather kill himself. So we'll get another V Gundam?
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Bimmi posted:For the last time my point is not about sexism so much as a creative failure to write engaging female characters and also failure to give more than token consideration to a potential female audience who I doubt are seeing anything in this show that speaks directly to them, which given both the show's stated and implied aims is stupid as well as regrettable. It's not livid Tumblr outrage and it's not some loving personal crusade, it's disappointment over bad writing and bad decisions. That. Is. All. No, it's an interesting discussion to have and it's worth talking about because it's a common problem in anime. Just because people don't necessarily agree with your opinion in regards to this show so far doesn't really make your point invalid and I'd appreciate it if you stuck around and continued to talk about it as the show develops because it may redeem itself in your eyes. That said, it's insipid and dumb to throw your hands up and go "AUGH, TOO *GOONY*" in a lovely attempt to get a smug last word in a conversation because people misunderstood your point(if multiple people interpret your writing in a way you didn't intend, it's possible your original point wasn't clear). Keep posting, I think your viewpoint is valuable, and I'm not being sarcastic. My favorite discussions in anime threads are when people come at things from completely different viewpoints. ImpAtom and I went back and forth over Gargantia for like ten billion pages!
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BlitzBlast posted:does anyone know who does the music for Build Fighters? The OST so far has been amazing, and I'd love to listen to more of the composer's work. I would love to know this. I loving lost it the first time Yuuki started fighting and the loving flamenco kicked in. Bimmi posted:I see people jumping to the wrong conclusions on these forums all the drat time, where they obviously couldn't be bothered to read or process the post they're responding to because they just can't wait to get their snarky two cents in. ALL THE drat TIME, and certainly not just with me. It's loving obnoxious and does not encourage any kind of real discussion, and it happens a lot more here for whatever reason than any of the other forums I frequent. Well, okay, bye I guess.
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Darth Walrus posted:Episode 10 here for your viewing pleasure: I absolutely love the Thai guy. Whenever they show everyone else freaking out over some unexpected new development, the Thai dude is like "gently caress YEAH THAT'S AWESOME!"
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Artum posted:I'm baffled by how this series has made me hate everything at face value and then almost instantly won me over when I see it in action. Star build strike seemed dumb as gently caress when pics of it's 1/144 surfaced but after seeing it this episode its one of my favourite suits and I ACHE for it to be added to extreme vs in a couple of years. It's an incredibly stupid show on its face, but it's so charmingly earnest and takes its completely ridiculous concept so straight-faced while still having fun that you can't help but love it. It reminds me a lot of what makes G Gundam so charming; we're not in that same level of awesome yet, but it feels similar. Plus the fight scenes are basically pornography for mobile suit fans. They put more effort and imagination into making cool battles for this glorified toy commercial than they have into actual main line Gundam shows for ages.
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ImpAtom posted:Because outside of the Gundam in-jokes and Gundam references it's honestly kind of generic. It isn't badly made or anything but kids have been watching these kinds of shows for ages and are coming off Danball Senki. Spot on. If it weren't for the obvious fanboyish love the creators are pouring into it and all the little nods and references you can pick up if you're already a huge Gundam nerd, this show would be pretty generic with nothing to really distinguish it from other kids' toy commercial cartoons.
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BlitzBlast posted:So going by the toys, apparently the Star Build Strike's new backpack is called the Universe Booster I. So that confirms it's not the final suit, if anyone had any doubt. Well of course, we're not even halfway through a show about selling Gunpla.
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Ethiser posted:His secret weapon is the beam javelin. Super Napalm.
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I get the impression that what people bring to the Gunpla arena isn't strictly monitored beyond "Did you bring a plastic model from Gundam to fight with". There are multiple teams with a separate operator/pilot(sometimes more than one operator, look at Gundam DX Jamil cosplayer guy), people bringing battleships instead of mobile suits, people apparently bringing models in entirely different scales from everyone else, Aila's allowed to have her weird super pilot suit that presumably does something that other pilots don't have access to, etc. Gunpla fighters seem to just be given an arena and told to have at it any way they want.
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I'm absolutely delighted with the quality of the fights in this show. My favorite part of the writing is that it treats its characters like they actually have brains. Sure, Sei came up with some wacky new poo poo for the Star Build Strike, but he's up against the best in the world. They can understand what kind of crazy poo poo the Star Build is doing by applying what they know and thinking about it instead of standard anime "Wh..WHAT IS THAT LIGHT NANIIIIII *explodes*" like you get in a lot of robot shows. Fellini's tactics against the Star Build were really fun to watch because of how clever they were, and I really liked how when they activated RG mode no one flipped their poo poo in stupefied wonder and it wasn't an auto-win button.
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The funniest problem I see is them having problems topping themselves with fight choreography. They've built up several rivals for Sei and Reiji and both of the major rival battles(Yuuki's Zaku and now Fellini) have basically resulted in mutual assured destruction. It's going to start losing its impact if every time Sei and Reiji fight an equal they blow up their own Gunpla in the process. 
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muike posted:Alright Reiji there's this uh part in Char's Counterattack when Amuro hides around a corner- no he's the main character of Mobile Suit Gundam, but he didn't do as much in Zeta Gundam, the sequel, the main character of that was Kamille, but no, listen-- so Char comes around the corner, he's the bad guy yeah, so Amuro's got this string, I don't know it must've been from his space suit, and he pulls it and it shoots a rocket at Char because he set up the shot. No, we're Amuro right now. No, Fellini's Char, not Kamille. Okay right. You got all that? I love this so much. "So Fellini has been building Gunpla since Sei was a fetus, has made finals in World Tournaments before, is the one who trained Reiji in how to be a fighter, and knows exactly how to counteract the Star Build Strike's primary gimmick. I think Sei and Reiji are boned." "Naw, it's cool, Sei has watched a *lot* of anime."
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BlitzBlast posted:Well the point was more that Sei knows all of the little tricks you can do. I half expect to see him get Reiji to pull Shinn's "bounce a beam shot off a shield" trick someday. I thought it was odd that they pulled out the "Don't worry, Sei is a Gundam Encyclopedia" against Fellini, who along with Mao is almost assuredly the most knowledgeable about Gundam out of all of Sei's opponents. Fellini's enough of a goon that he's been doing Gunpla stuff since he was a kid, he loves building Gunpla just for fun, he loving hits on women using Gunpla, and when he gets drunk he chats up women by asking them about Gundam shows. It's almost impossible for him to NOT know all about Gundam. "I've seen a LOT of anime, so I'm gonna pull out a Gundam trick you won't expect" would make more sense against an opponent like Aila(hates Gunpla) or Nils(only in it for the Plavskies, doesn't really get Gunpla). Episode still owned super hard though.
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ImpAtom posted:Well, it's basically Friendship and Love codified. Nils's sideplot of "learning to like Gunpla battles" is basically hilarious. I feel like there should be a little pop-up counter in the corner for every time he's flabbergasted about why people are doing something totally illogical and nonsensical vis a vis actually winning the tournament and someone replies "Isn't it obvious? Because they're FIGHTERS!" Aila's obviously going to learn to Love Gunpla via her thing with Reiji, but I'm mostly curious about what's the deal with her hilarious Gunpla Fighting Outfit.
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ImpAtom posted:Well, in the case of Felini, it honestly is kind of a bad idea. The dude is getting his only Gunpla utterly wrecked in a fight that has absolutely no profit for him. Last time that happened to Sei and Reiji they had to use the Build Mk II for several battles. (And they got lucky it wasn't battles that needed high-grade Plavsky bullshit to win.) Yeah, that's my point. Nils approaches the tournament from a perspective of winning, which means doing things that maximize the chances of victory without cheating. Avoiding conflict during the Battle Royale, wondering why people aren't running the gently caress away from the Mega Zaku, wondering why Fellini would rip his Gunpla apart for a fight he didn't even need to take, etc. But every time he wonders why other people would do stupid poo poo like rushing the Mega Size someone corrects him with "BECAUSE THEY'RE FIGHTERS!" Galaga Galaxian posted:Part of me wants to guess its simple showboating. However Aila's fights are boring to watch so I doubt they're intentionally trying to play the crowd with a mysterious fighter. The suit does some glowy stuff every so often and it seems to beat the poo poo out of Aila while she has it on so it's probably like 3 said and it's basically a goofy Plavsky Cyber Newtype rig.
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An okay episode. It's a bit of a cooldown after Fellini, but that's perfectly okay. I had no real complaints about the fight because as was said earlier the point of the episode was that Mao is the underdog here and the theme is basically "Don't sweat yourself over winning so much as long as you're enjoying yourself". I do love that we're continuing the tradition of the Absorb Shield being absolutely, completely loving useless against anyone with a name. One thing I hope they do in future fights is cut back on the "Hah! I destroyed your beam rifle!" *less than 3 seconds later* "Oh no! You've also destroyed my beam rifle!" that they seem to love. Melee is way more climactic of a finish of course, but I'd like to see someone fighting at a disadvantage for a little bit in one of these fights. Luang noooooooo
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Caros posted:If there is one big success of build fighters, it is in having a standout, like able and relateable cast. I'm so happy that this show rewarded all of my faith in the writers since the thread had that big argument over whether or not China and Kirara were sexist characters way back when the series was just starting. It could have easily gone the other way.
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ImpAtom posted:It has gone the other way though? They are not actually allowed to do anything in the plot but cheer for their respective boyfriend character. Bearguy isn't even in the OP/ED anymore. I like Build Fighters a lot but Aila is the closest the the show has to a non-awful female character and she's on her way to Cyber Newtype Plot-town. Mind you that's still a drat sight better than multiple episodes of sitting there clutching your hands together going "Iori-kuuun" What are they going to do? We're in a tournament arc and neither of them are in the tournament. China was responsible for Sei coming up with the Star Build Strike in the first place. Kirara is pretty much a "keep at it and you'll achieve your dreams" character.
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ImpAtom posted:They wrote the show. It is not an accurate true-to-life depiction of reality. They could have come up with a plot that didn't involve introducing a bunch of female cast members and then having all but one of them reduced to sitting on the sidelines while the action happens. Considering they have Ramba Ral and Sei's dad beating up loving Gunpla Mafia guys, I find it hard to believe they couldn't find anything for the characters to do that isn't cheering on or motivating male characters. Before he threw a Gunpla Mafia guy across the room, Ral's contribution to the show was actually below that of China's, honestly. Aila's been a recurring character and has gotten to Do Things. Kirara hasn't, but she's basically a background character and I'm mostly just pleased that her arc wasn't "Evil Conniving Woman Tries to Backstab Hero, Fails". I think they wasted a bit of an opportunity with "Ral and China help Sei repair the Star Build", though. I'd have loved to see a China-inspired gimmick on the SBS get pulled out in a fight. Bloody Pom posted:They should have a mid-tournament exhibition match that works like the Battle Royale but exclusively features 'cute' or SD Gunpla. That would be amazing. I would love this but they went with Rookie Mistakes When Building Gunpla: The Episode instead, which turned out just fine too.
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I was seriously expecting the Build Knuckle arm to blow up, Mao to go "I did it!" and then Reiji to yell "NOT YET" and gut punch him with the other arm while everyone looks on in shock. Mao gives me major Sai Sici vibes and pretty much everything about this episode was basically the Sai Sici episode of the G Gundam tournament, right down to it being a one-sided slaughter.
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Kild posted:Yeah they should've put the build quality aspect at the forefront of the fight. Something like an endurance fight or constant 1-upping until Mao's gundam broke from all the strain or a defective part. They kind of did this. The Maoh Saber failed because the GX Maoh started falling apart at the seams while the SBS was holding together just fine using the RG System.
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New episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxFKgiaYIsQ In summation,  . This may have surpassed the Zaku Amazing and Fenice fights.
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tsob posted:I don't buy it. Luang was looking at the Renato Brothers and they had to have released the toy Zeon dudes from the backpack, which means they had to pass across his line of sight at some point. Several of them in quick succession at that, rather than just one lone little guy speeding past. Just seems weird that not only would he not spot them, but no-one did, when Sei did in the next fight from the stands in much worse conditions. It's a really minor niggle though, in an otherwise fantastic episode. Who said they did their trick while Luang was watching? They could have easily released the soldiers at the start and had them simply come from behind when Luang had them engaged in close combat because there was a heavily forested area to conceal them in. The brothers even have it planned out. "Hold him in place for 20 seconds" - Give the little guys time to come up behind him and do their thing. Sharkopath posted:Meijin has a super robot. That survived point blank shots unscathed and getting stabbed a million times, watching it with my friend we both called bullshit at the end there. Considering the Kampfer is the culmination of all of the technology and research of the organization that invented Plavsky bullshit, the thing is probably a full metal custom-casted job or something ridiculous. It got stabbed a bunch, but it was actively moving away from the beam saber so they were pretty much surface pinpricks. We never got that satisfying Gundam Beam Saber Impalement that usually heralds a MS's death.
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boom boom boom posted:It's the Kampfer, which was already, by design, a dumb suit, and they just strapped a bunch of boxes with guns in them on it. Compare that to double sword huge fist Astray, magic Qubeley, asymmetrical Wing, Strike with all the glowy effects, and the goddamn GM Sniper K9. The GM Sniper K9 is a GM Sniper II with a backpack, which is roughly the same amount of visual difference that the Kampfer Amazing has from the Kampfer. Also the original Kampfer wasn't a dumb suit, it was actually pretty well equipped and thought out for what it was supposed to do(get in, blow something up, get out) because it's a giant pile of weapons and rocket boosters. It certainly made a lot more sense than a lot of the garbage Zeon was trying to produce.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Maybe the Argentine Gunpla scene is hyper competitive? Maybe they practically did fight a Gunpla war to get to the world championship? One interpretation of them I like is that they're sort of an inverse Fellini. Fellini spends some time acknowledging that the new generation of Gunpla builders and fighters are raising the bar and threatening the older generation - look what happened to Greco and Kaiser, both some of the best of the previous generation, both punked horribly by new kids. Fellini's response to this is to acknowledge it and try to learn from it by engaging with the new generation on a personal level, even mentoring them and investing himself in their success. It's easy to imagine the Renato Brothers responding to it in a "Goddamn whippersnappers don't know what real Gunpla war is!" way. Yuuki/Meijin sort of exemplifies the new generation displacing the old generation; he's a high school kid who's garnered a huge adoring fanbase and is being feted as the King of Gunpla by pretty much everyone, with even other competitors in the tournament assuming he's going to win all of his matches by default in the goddamn Round of 16 which contains the best of the best from around the world. From a crotchety older generation perspective, he's a smug little poo poo who was handed his excellent gunpla on a silver platter by PPSE and given every advantage in the world to win. Kicking the legs out from under someone like that would be incredibly satisfying from that perspective. This interpretation is shored up even more by the Renatos' choice of suits and tactics. Instead of relying on Plavsky gimmicks and super heavy customization jobs like most of the younger gunpla fighters, they rely on solid, relatively basic and down to earth gunpla tailored for the situation at hand and focus primarily on using their cleverness and experience to win.
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They even say "We'll show him our battle, no, our war" earlier in the episode. They made that poo poo up basically on the fly to define how they approach gunpla: Total war, win at any cost, gently caress fighting "fair" and "honorably".
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Those nerds at the bar in Zeon cosplay referred to Ral by a military rank! He must have been a war veteran, which is where he learned his amazing military tricks like "bodily throwing a dude into a computer".
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tsob posted:It's not a terribly difficult argument to grasp actually. The only component is "maybe they meant what they said?". If you can't understand a simple concept like that, then woe is you I guess. You then argued that it was impossible for someone to have a dark past in this anime, to which I pointed out that Aila exists and has one and that being a former soldier isn't terribly dark in the first place. It's not like I'm even saying it's definite, just that I think it's possible. Apparently this makes me taking the crazy pills though. People aren't buying it because you're constructing a backstory that isn't even hinted at besides them saying the words "war" and "peacetime". The picture of the Renato brothers we have is that they're smug, take gunpla very seriously, and look down on other gunpla battlers. They even make up the war metaphor mid-episode, which suggests they're not carrying deep war veteran scars with them. Which is more plausible: That the Renato brothers are very serious about this battle and the opportunity to slap down what they say is a lovely little upstart, or that they have a war veteran past that is never mentioned or even hinted at? By your logic, it is exactly as plausible that Ral is actually a hardened military veteran because he got referred to by a military rank by a nerd in Zeon cosplay once.
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tsob posted:And you're making up the idea that they made up the metaphor mid episode because they changed from using the word battle to war. Changing from one to the other doesn't mean they were making it up as they went along, it could also just mean that he thought one word more apt than the other after thinking about it for a second. You're interpreting the few facts they presented one way, I'm interpreting it another. Something something Occam's Razor something something. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and not an allusion to a war-riven past, and sometimes a bunch of nerds playing Gunpla in a bar while wearing Zeon cosplay referring to a dude who looks exactly like Ramba Ral by a military rank is just a funny Gundam reference.
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Feb 11, 2014 07:28
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ImpAtom posted:"The brothers would have won if they hadn't done things that made them lose" is a pretty unfair complaint because it works exactly the same in reverse. Honestly, the people complaining that (x character didn't win) just seem silly. Characters have to lose. Not every character who tries hard or has a sympathetic backstory is going to win and losing isn't the end of the world. It's half the premise of the show that people can try super hard because nothing that is happening is particularly important. I never really understand complaints that boil down to "Well it's pointless to watch because you know who's going to win" or "He lost because the plot demanded that he lose". So what? Who cares? I'm infinitely more interested in the means than the end. I knew Domon was going to beat Master Asia, I knew Luke was going to become a Jedi and beat the Emperor, and I knew that Batman was going to beat the Joker. What actually matters is how it happens, and in that regard this show keeps topping itself(with the slight stumble in the Mao episode). Kanos fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Feb 11, 2014 |
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Maybe they're just two assholes who lost a fight and this is a super long and super goon discussion that literally goes nowhere and is arguing over nothing! Much like this anime is a super long and super goon series of battles that literally go nowhere and accomplish nothing and that's a plot point. 
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Bloody Pom posted:If Miss Sazabi didn't exist I'd have suggested Sazabi Amazing. The obvious solution is Nightingale Amazing. 
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AzMiLion posted:Having a Sinanju Amazing or something would also own. Epyon Amazing? Tallgeese Amazing? We've already had a Tallgeese and an Epyon, I doubt they'd use the same design twice.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:I can't tell if Yuuki is really enjoying roleplaying as Meijin or if the persona is starting to crush down on him. I don't think he enjoys it. The few peaks into his head we've had as Meijin show that he's desperately trying to measure up to this ridiculous standard of absolute perfection: not only winning every battle, but doing so flawlessly and stylishly. Not even Allan, the guy who helped MAKE him Meijin, seems to expect as much out of Yuuki as Yuuki expects out of himself. After the K9 fight Allan's like "Holy poo poo you won you're a loving beast!" and Yuuki's like "No I loving suck I got hit!".
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Feb 15, 2014 01:17
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Sindai posted:Best moment of the episode. Meijin is pretty consistently the funniest character in the show. I was waiting for that statement to somehow be a plot point that led to Nils' defeat. Then no one else even mentioned or noticed it for the remainder of the episode and I busted out laughing.
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BlitzBlast posted:Yeah I really have no idea what's going on with Sei. It's always been a two protagonist show. Sei's had some minor development here and there. During the Fellini fight he realized that he had to be willing to let the Star Build blow up if that's what it took to win and he's become more trusting of Reiji in a lot of ways(he asked Reiji to help fix the Star Build's arm in this episode). He's already a pretty well adjusted if super nerdy kid so there's not much left to really do with him besides "Man I want to win this tournament!". Reiji still has whatever the hell his past is to get through and the inevitable angst over Aila. We've sort of moved into the Shuffle Alliance arc of the show where the episodes are focusing way more on the supporting cast and what makes them tick than on the protagonists, though. Presumably Reiji's deal will be the climax.
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