Aphrodite posted:

Ollie seeing their plane, and some unimportant dialogue.

Aphrodite posted:

The show.

I'm sure there were bad runs of Birds of Prey, but I think it's mostly well regarded.

WarLocke posted:

The show is pretty bad (in a campy way) but the actress ho plays Harlene Quinzel really sells what she gets as far as writing goes. It's only 13 episodes, I'd give it a try.

mcbexx posted:

Catching on, hopping on the

This was just shameless, though.

DivisionPost posted:

HAVE YOU FOUND SOMEBODY FOR ME TO HIT YET?

WarLocke posted:

For how utterly bad that show was, that final fight scene was pretty drat awesome.

e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kda9_RDHwM4

AFoolAndHisMoney posted:

This was the best I could do, I had to slow it down slightly just to make it visible and even then I'm not sure how apparent it is.

I also considered one where the TV was replaced by Black Canary shrieking at the viewer but that'll have to wait for another day.

Edmond Dantes posted:

Keeku posted:

Regarding Nightwing, anyone know if there's any truth to this? https://twitter.com/McQueeninchains

Two tweets, both tagging Arrow writers.

"Nightwing training @ARROWwriters @GBerlanti @KyleDHiggins @RapaportCasting pic.twitter.com/1YN5IrBVC4"

(he is wearing a Nightwing shirt, so may just be referencing that...)

"Had some superhero conversations with the executives this weekend @ARROWwriters"

Either way, based on that photo I could believe him as Grayson more than that nose guy photo that was posted earlier in this thread.

Azhais posted:

That's pretty much the entire cast and plotline of TVD, so hard to blame the actor for that

Aphrodite posted:

Now now, this isn't the terrible show thread.

Rhyno posted:

I'm pretty sure Agents of SHIELD has come up numerous times.

Drifter posted:

bland bland bland bland bland bland bland decent - Wow, What a great season!!!

Error 404 posted:

Flash Fact!
Just imagine every person uselessly making GBS threads on AoS to be the comic book guy from the simpsons, it makes following threads about nerdshows a lot more tolerable.

Narcissus1916 posted:

I'd certainly agree that Arrow's first season was by no means a perfect piece of work, but I thought the first half of the season had enough interesting elements to keep me entertained. Best of all, the show had a great sense of when to tweak the formula.

Diggle's banter with Oliver became an early highlight, and his role was drastically expanded. Felicity gave the show some much-needed levity, and quickly became part of the Arrow team.

And while Tommy was insufferable in the first few episodes, they very quickly moved him away from the "rear end in a top hat best friend" trope.

Looking at wikipedia's list of episodes, I'd reckon that the show found its groove relatively early. Malcolm showed up in episode 9, the kinda midseason finale. That's the one that ends with Ollie laid out in a hospital bed. And I remember watching that and going "Whoa, I'm actually curious to see where they go from here."

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By contrast, even Agents of SHIELD's best episodes are basically passable monster-of-the-week plots. The show has a distressing lack of serialization or ANY ongoing plot whatsoever.

But here's the thing - the networks are full of fun and entertaining procedurals. But Agents of SHIELD has only delivered a few decent 40 minute plots, that only pop when the guest stars turn in great performances.

The core cast of AoS is the largest drawback to enjoying the show. There is absolutely no one I give a fig about in that entire group; even Colson seems to lose any allure when surrounded with such bland characters.

It's not insurmountable, by any stretch. But even the Whedon shows that struggled (Buffy, Dollhouse) had intriguing elements that weren't being put together well.

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But christ, trying to judge Agents of SHIELD against Arrow's second season is a bloodbath. This string of great Arrow episodes isn't even really happening because of all the new players bouncing around. The Arrow writers have done an outstanding job at shifting all of its surviving season one characters into new (or new-ish) roles.

Oliver's certain he still wants to save the city, but he's not sure how to proceed now that his primary motivation (The List) has been shunted aside. The city's gone straight to hell, objectively worse than last year. And on top of that, he's trying to keep to a new moral code and run his family's company.

Diggle and Felicity are no longer letting Oliver bullshit them with vague comments about his past - they're aiding him instead of just helping him this year.

Thea is no longer stuck in a weirdly sterile Gossip Girl riff, Moira is atoning for her sins and certainly holding the keys to the season's next big arc, Roy is giving us a human face on what's happening in the glades, Detective Lance is no longer acting like a dumb rear end in a top hat... even Laurel's material is much improved.

And then you throw in Brother Blood, Summer Glau, everything with the Black Canary...

No contest.

Rarity posted:

Do you even watch that show? Cause it sure don't sound like it.

Shakugan posted:

This episode was weird and everyone seemed out of character. Somehow exploding and mowing down russian prison guards is totally ok despite Ollie changing his ways (especially considering those guards aren't "bad guys"), Diggle just letting Deadshot go for no reason whatsoever (inevitably for him to end up in his old profession). Seriously, how many innocent people died/will die in the Arrowverse because of Diggle's actions in this episode?

Then of course, the Felicity drama, ughh. Up until this point she's always made the double entendres, Ollie doesn't take them seriously, everyone has a good laugh etc. But this episode has clearly established Ollie and Felicity as a thing, and it's totally and completely unnecessary.