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Tree Huffer
Jul 26, 2007

dude were so
high right now
hahaha

Mr. Fortitude posted:

My only real issue with Heartcatch is how Sunshine was handled. She appears overpowered and then quickly just fades to the background without much of a presence.

See, this was a huge reason why I couldn't enjoy Heartcatch. It wasn't just the OP way she was presented, but the incredibly creepy implications behind her transformation. The director of Ojamajo Doremi has done a lot of similar things in terms of being comfortable with yourself and allowing yourself to break traditional gender norms without it ever being as creepy as Cure Sunshine was handled. For me, it felt like it was presented as wrong that Itsuki was doing traditionally masculine things, and that she should go be more traditionally feminine because that was the 'correct' way to be. The fact that they took a girl who was doing a lot of traditionally masculine things and then changed her into what looked like an actual fetish costume + stilettos with long blonde hair and a baby fairy was incredibly creepy to me. Rather than emphasize that it was still okay that she did do traditionally masculine things, it felt like they were portraying the 'correct' way to be a woman.

I felt like Smile Precure and Ojamajo Doremi handled the concept of "it doesn't matter what gender you are, you can do what you like and be who you like as long as you love yourself" a lot better than Heartcatch did. I understand they were going for a be true to yourself sort of lesson, but it came off as creepy and fetishy rather than heartwarming as Doremi did it.

That and I legitimately could not stand Cure Marine, but that's mostly because I worked with very small children in Japan and the messages they took away from Cure Marine were awful.

I'm in a very small minority in that I just can't enjoy Heartcatch in any way, but I'm glad a lot of other people took enough away from it. If it gets people involved in magical girl shows, I honestly can't complain too much.

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Tree Huffer
Jul 26, 2007

dude were so
high right now
hahaha

Caithness posted:

Yellow is always the best Cure, and Lemonade is still the best Yellow.

Pretty sure you misspelled Peace there. Man, Smile Precure was ridiculously silly and was one of the weaker plots of the show, but it was absolutely gorgeous and that team is one of the best.

Tree Huffer
Jul 26, 2007

dude were so
high right now
hahaha


What a lovely smile, Iona.

Edit: Also, did anybody else get some strong Futari wa and Splash Star impressions from Hawaiian Precure? Not just because it was just the two of them, but the focus on Sunset using punches and Wave using kicks, then their final attack had to have been an homage. It was really cute!

Tree Huffer fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Aug 20, 2014

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