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It's fun that for the X-Men 97 cartoon they're adapting a storyline that actually came out in 1997
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Apr 26, 2024 05:34
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New Wave Jose posted:Cable is involved, it feels like a timeline shenanigans is coming. Nah, I don't think they walk back what happened at Genosha. I think Maddie is gone.
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Apr 26, 2024 05:41
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Blockhouse posted:It's fun that for the X-Men 97 cartoon they're adapting a storyline that actually came out in 1997 They occasionally did that on the original show too. Not a lot of space between the Gambit arc in the comics where he deals with the conflict between the Assassin Guild and the Teeves Guild and when the show had an episode about it.
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Apr 26, 2024 05:41
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Blockhouse posted:It's fun that for the X-Men 97 cartoon they're adapting a storyline that actually came out in 1997 Morrison’s run with the attack on Genosha was 2001.
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Apr 26, 2024 06:24
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ruddiger posted:Morrison’s run with the attack on Genosha was 2001. yeah but Bastion is here now so they're also doing Operation: Zero Tolerance
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Apr 26, 2024 06:26
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Codependent Poster posted:Nah, I don't think they walk back what happened at Genosha. I think Maddie is gone. I don’t know, they’ve made a point of not finding her body.
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Apr 26, 2024 06:38
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Aphrodite posted:I don’t know, they’ve made a point of not finding her body. This week was to put a lid on it. They said they haven't found any survivors after a week, then made s big deal about finding a telepath and it was Emma. Then Scott broke down a little. I think that signifies he's accepted her death now. Also Cable was sad. So yeah, I think she's gone. If not for good at least for a season or two since nobody really ever stays dead. But likely she's gone and I hope Emma joins up.
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Apr 26, 2024 12:55
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muscles like this! posted:Dead Boy Detectives is now out on Netflix. Watched the first episode and it was pretty fun, but the boy's ages is throwing me off a bit. I think in the comic they are about 10 or 12 but here they seem to be mid-teens which just adds a different dynamic.
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Apr 26, 2024 17:43
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Air Skwirl posted:They occasionally did that on the original show too. Not a lot of space between the Gambit arc in the comics where he deals with the conflict between the Assassin Guild and the Teeves Guild and when the show had an episode about it. The Tithe! Emma on the team isn't as fun without kitty being "when I think of evil, I think of you". As was said earlier, it is weird how they've avoided Kitty the entire run. Like of the top 10 xmen of all time, I'd think she'd rate pretty high .
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Apr 27, 2024 18:19
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Starting Dead Boy Detectives and it's really breaking my brain that they cast them and introduced them in Doom Patrol and then just did it all over again
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Apr 27, 2024 18:25
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twistedmentat posted:The Tithe! I think the problem with introducing Kitty is that unless you have her as an adult it kind of makes either her or Jubilee redundant as the teen character.
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Apr 27, 2024 18:36
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Medullah posted:Starting Dead Boy Detectives and it's really breaking my brain that they cast them and introduced them in Doom Patrol and then just did it all over again Didn’t Titans kind of do this as well with DP?
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Apr 27, 2024 18:37
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Kind of, it was still the Cliff, Larry and Rita actors but with a different Caulder and no Cyborg. They did eventually reveal that Titans and Doom Patrol proper took place in separate universes.
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Apr 27, 2024 18:41
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omg chael crash posted:Didn’t Titans kind of do this as well with DP? Oh yeah that's right!
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Apr 27, 2024 18:41
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twistedmentat posted:The Tithe! Being shunted off to Excalibur didn't help in the larger view of things. She missed out a bunch of huge X-Men moments while Excalibur pootled about doing their own weird thing. And even when she does appear in events, it's rarely a memorable, stand out moment, she's usually just a face in the crowd. Thinking about it, she wouldn't make my top 10. Emma, Magik, and some form of Psylocke are in with a better shout these days, Kitty's more Top 20.
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Apr 27, 2024 22:41
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Sentinel Red posted:Being shunted off to Excalibur didn't help in the larger view of things. She missed out a bunch of huge X-Men moments while Excalibur pootled about doing their own weird thing. And even when she does appear in events, it's rarely a memorable, stand out moment, she's usually just a face in the crowd. This is probably a generational thing because people who read xmen when she was on the team love Kitty. She's also extremely important to wolverine, being the first teen girl he mentors. He didn't teach her about saying racial slurs though. My first exposure to xmen was new mutants and the classic xmen reprints, so yea she's probably well in my top 10.
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Apr 27, 2024 23:37
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Definitely generational. Kitty was the audience surrogate when she was introduced. Ditto for Jubilee, and because Jubilee was "newer" she was used as the audience surrogate in the cartoon. It also kind of blew my mind to learn (via Jay and Miles) that Kitty used to be a big deal and huge character favourite because I had never heard of her until probably Age of Apocalypse. On whole it's kind of impressive how informative and influential the 90s X-Men cartoon was for me (and probably others). I was about 10 or so when it came out, never read an X-Men comic in my life (my brother was a DC guy) and all of a sudden my and my friends would be discussing who our fave X-Man was and how cool the X-Men are. My friend became a huge X-Men fan and got into the comics because of the show and would share the comics around.
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Apr 28, 2024 15:01
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Madkal posted:Definitely generational. Kitty was the audience surrogate when she was introduced. Ditto for Jubilee, and because Jubilee was "newer" she was used as the audience surrogate in the cartoon. It also kind of blew my mind to learn (via Jay and Miles) that Kitty used to be a big deal and huge character favourite because I had never heard of her until probably Age of Apocalypse. To quote Wolverine regarding Kitty, *In Australian accent* "AWWWW SHE'S JUST A KID SHE'LL JUST GET IN THE WAY" In other news I watched 4 episodes of Dead Boy Detectives. I'm going to finish it because I'm a Gaiman fanboy but the show is definitely not really for me. It seems like they cranked the YA up to 11, and the idea of a couple of ghost kids solving crimes kind of diminishes when they're closer to 20 than they are to 10. But I get why they made the change, can't have relationship drama if they're toddlers. Or can you......
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Apr 28, 2024 15:10
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Someone hasn’t heard of BOSS BABY 2: FAMILY BUSINESS
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Apr 28, 2024 15:29
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Medullah posted:To quote Wolverine regarding Kitty, *In Australian accent* "AWWWW SHE'S JUST A KID SHE'LL JUST GET IN THE WAY" They actually have a very good 'the youth investigate spooks, specters and ghosts' series on Netflix called Lockwood & Co. but it's not getting a second season due to not meeting whatever arbitrary hoodoo Netflix uses to continue series.
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Apr 28, 2024 15:43
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Medullah posted:To quote Wolverine regarding Kitty, *In Australian accent* "AWWWW SHE'S JUST A KID SHE'LL JUST GET IN THE WAY" I assume the real issue is aging since they're, you know, ghosts and hiring real kids would just be a problem in a season 2.
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Apr 28, 2024 16:07
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muscles like this! posted:I assume the real issue is aging since they're, you know, ghosts and hiring real kids would just be a problem in a season 2. Clearly they should just commit to their roles and stay young forever. Edit - Adding to my confusion of this show, Dead Boy Detectives were on Doom Patrol played by different actors, but Ruth Connel is playing Night Nurse, who she also played on Doom Patrol. Medullah fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Apr 28, 2024 |
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Apr 28, 2024 16:13
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Madkal posted:Definitely generational. Kitty was the audience surrogate when she was introduced. Ditto for Jubilee, and because Jubilee was "newer" she was used as the audience surrogate in the cartoon. It also kind of blew my mind to learn (via Jay and Miles) that Kitty used to be a big deal and huge character favourite because I had never heard of her until probably Age of Apocalypse. Yeah, she kinda skipped a generation depending when folks got into X-Men.
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Apr 28, 2024 17:50
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Bruceski posted:Yeah, she kinda skipped a generation depending when folks got into X-Men. You can tell what show someone watched by who their faves are. I have a friend who's not really into comics, but does have her favourite X-Men characters namely Kitty and Wanda. As you can probably guess, she was the right age for Evo when that came out.
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Apr 28, 2024 20:28
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Bruceski posted:Yeah, she kinda skipped a generation depending when folks got into X-Men. It's the thing where she was a big deal during Claremont's era, then there's the 90s... then in the 00s, a bunch of people who grew up reading Claremont (like Whedon and Bendis) start writing X-Men and because she was a big deal when they were teens, they bring her back to the fore. It's the same thing as Johns bringing back Barry Allen and Hal Jordan.
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Apr 28, 2024 20:53
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Gaz-L posted:It's the thing where she was a big deal during Claremont's era, then there's the 90s... then in the 00s, a bunch of people who grew up reading Claremont (like Whedon and Bendis) start writing X-Men and because she was a big deal when they were teens, they bring her back to the fore. except Kitty is way cooler than barry or hal, so it's good and cool she came back
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Apr 28, 2024 21:56
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Yes, and they finally let her be openly bisexual. As Claremont pretty obviously wrote her and illyana and Rachael were banging off panel. Also d+ should do a Spider-Man and the xmen series. Get Holland back and Hollywood Elliott Kalen to showrun it.
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Apr 28, 2024 22:14
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So I watched the first episode of Dead Boy Detectives and I enjoyed it but when did she start going by just "Kirby" in credits?
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Apr 29, 2024 02:42
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muscles like this! posted:So I watched the first episode of Dead Boy Detectives and I enjoyed it but when did she start going by just "Kirby" in credits? I don't really know her, but according to IMDB in 2024.
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Apr 29, 2024 08:14
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muscles like this! posted:I assume the real issue is aging since they're, you know, ghosts and hiring real kids would just be a problem in a season 2. Also work hour limits on underage actors.
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Apr 29, 2024 11:01
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Soonmot posted:except Kitty is way cooler than barry or hal, so it's good and cool she came back That racist?
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Apr 29, 2024 20:29
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Hal and Barry are also racist, so it's not like that alone puts her at a disadvantage compared to them
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Apr 30, 2024 04:14
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OnimaruXLR posted:Hal and Barry are also racist, so it's not like that alone puts her at a disadvantage compared to them Admittedly I've read a lot more comics featuring Katherine Pryde than I have Barry Allen or Hal Jordan but I don't think I've read a single comic where they use the n word, but I've read two where she does.
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Apr 30, 2024 04:30
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Apr 30, 2024 05:50
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There's a panel from Green Arrow/Green Lantern where a Black guy complains to Hal about he's more willing to stand up for the purple dude than the brown one.
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Apr 30, 2024 06:25
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Jinkies, every time one of you muppets goes on a "KitTy Is A rAcIST!!!!" tear, I fear my eyes may snap tendons from rolling so hard. A writer 30 years ago tried to make a well meaning but very ham-handed point about dehumanising terms a couple of times. That's it. It's not like the character subsequently spent every issue since running around hurling insults at everyone she sees but y'all gotta run this poo poo into the ground because [goons].
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Apr 30, 2024 10:13
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Sentinel Red posted:Jinkies, every time one of you muppets goes on a "KitTy Is A rAcIST!!!!" tear, I fear my eyes may snap tendons from rolling so hard. A writer 30 years ago tried to make a well meaning but very ham-handed point about dehumanising terms a couple of times. That's it. It's not like the character subsequently spent every issue since running around hurling insults at everyone she sees but y'all gotta run this poo poo into the ground because [goons]. She shouldn't have called that guy the n word.
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Apr 30, 2024 12:53
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Sentinel Red posted:Being shunted off to Excalibur didn't help in the larger view of things. She missed out a bunch of huge X-Men moments while Excalibur pootled about doing their own weird thing. Literally, MEANWHILE  (This might be my favorite panel of all time) IIRC Kate's dad dies in Genosha in the comics and they use that to pull her back in during Morrison's run so there was an opportunity here. Just treat it like she left before Jubes arrived and I think she'd slot in fine. NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Apr 30, 2024 |
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Apr 30, 2024 19:39
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Gripweed posted:She shouldn't have called that guy the n word. That's not even the one I mean. The better one is when she gets up to do a eulogy at a hate crime victim's funeral and drops like 8 slurs in a row. That's what Michael Richards did. Do you forgive Kramer? I don't.
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