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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

SirDan3k posted:

But it doesn't explain why nobody else could. Unless Thor and Mjolnir now have some kind of link where he judges everyone unworthy and it's like "yeah they are all dicks bro". Maybe a bit of Allblack The Necroblade's near sentience rubbed off on it.

Didn't Freya flat-out say that the hammer's enchantment has apparently evolved, so not even Odin decides worthiness now, but Mjolnir itself?

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Spiderdrake posted:

To be fair, hammerless Thor looks like he's really hurting for some conditioner.

"Whosoever holds this hammer, if she be worthy, shall possess the power of really silky, manageable hair!"

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Aphrodite posted:

It's pretty funny how the kiss doesn't actually eliminate any suspects, since we already knew it wasn't his mom.

Yeah, if Aaron thought that was a serious red herring, he shouldn't have the obviously modern dialect in the thought bubbles.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Also, it's ancient pantheons. Isn't incest all the rage in those? Shouldn't Thor Classic have just gone "Um, I dunno, are you?"?

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
OK, according to the May solicits, Aaron's dragging out the identity thing until #8. Which, hey, Odinson and co not knowing, that can last until #16, fine. But 8 issues where you're playing coy, and not allowing yourself to go into real detail in your leading lady because you're trying to do a surprise, is too long.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Here's the thing. I haven't read any of the prior Aaron run. I jumped on with this new Thor because it sounded neat. I don't have the 'it's probably Roz' stuff to stand in for the background that Aaron's avoiding in order to keep the secret. I don't know who Roz is, so I can't use what I know about her to fill in the gaps. So I basically know that this lady is confused when she talks Ye Olde Fake Englishe, that she puts the hammer back, and doesn't like sexists. That's not a character.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

krakagar posted:

Yeah. I honestly didn't consider those who might be jumping onboard with this run. I should imagine that its a lot harder to get a hold on than I thought. I wonder if there is a huge portion of new readers who feel that way.

Also, if you are a new reader, is not knowing the new Thor's identity really that big a problem? Why is it so frustrating? Is it just because not knowing is so annoying? Or do you think it detracts from the character. I can certainly see that without knowing that side of the character, we have nothing to ground her, and she's just some kind of confused super-being. Or is more a problem of compression and story telling style? Some people just don't enjoy decompressed stories so much, and it can certainly be hard to get the balance action & progression with longer story arcs.

Personally, I'd like to know more about the person underneath the mask as I think it makes for a more interesting character, but like I said, I'm also happy to see it play out for now, as I trust the writer.

It's not frustrating because of not knowing, although by dragging it out, that does become part of it. It's not even that she's not 'grounded', it's that she's basically not able to have ANY relationships or any specificity to her thoughts. She's a placeholder. Like, if the book was about Sif, you'd see her talking to the Warriors Three, maybe mention stuff she did in the past. In order to preserve the mystery, our new Thor has none of that.

I'm not disliking the series, but I think drawing it out more than 3 issues was a bad call, and more than 6 (which is what I assumed he was doing, because tpbs) is aggravating.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Thor Annual: Old Thor story probably makes more sense if you were reading the prior run (again, this is the problem with the current trend of 'rebooting' books without actually rebooting.). Was still pretty fun, and the naming of the new Adam and Eve was sweet.

Current Thor story was great, as I'd expect from Stevenson. She just about managed a decent deflection of the Lady Thor issue without having to turn it into a 4 paragraph contextualisation of why it's a bad form of address when Odinson got addressed as Prince Thor and Lord Thor a lot, by turning it into more of a "please, my MOTHER is Lady Thor, I'm just Thor" kind of deal. And drinking party with the Warriors Three is always good fun. Might've been nice to throw Sif in, but maybe Aaron's saving that for the main book.

Young Thor story was... kinda disappointing. The art was nice and cartoony, fitting the intended tone, but Punk's pretty new at this writing thing, and it showed. He was aiming for breezy, broad comedy, and the whole thing. came off over-written.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I'm thinking it might be Jane, now, actually. Her using what little time she has left to selflessly help others, and refusing to take the 'easy' way out of her illness sounds like a good measure of worthiness to me. And it lets you do the closing of the story with her either finally passing away, or regular Thor regains the hammer, and as a parting gift, she gets de-cancered.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

redbackground posted:

Is there a chance it's multiple ladies, a la the animated Batman movie Mystery of the Batwoman? (not actually reading the comic, but still curious to who it is)

It'd be a pretty big cheat, as Aaron's been using thought balloons to show us inside Thor's mind, and she seems pretty clearly one person that's hella confused by some of what she's doing.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Aphrodite posted:

I guess absolutely no twist at all and "yep, it's Roz" would actually qualify as a twist today.

It did occur to me that the hard sell of "IT'S ROZ YOU GUYS, ODINSON ASKED COULSON AND COULSON COULDN'T FIND HER AND THEN WE CUT TO THOR!" is a double fake-out, making it so obvious that a lot of readers will assume it's a red herring. Except that's a very risky move, considering it relies on a large portion of the readership to have already guessed, and thus they're not going to be surprised anyway.

Also, Coulson has way more important stuff to do in his own book, than help Odinson invade a woman's privacy!

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

SirDan3k posted:

Movie synergy says it's Jane because she the only character the theoretical movie drawn new readers can name.

One day it'll work just you wait.

It's obviously Darcy! She learned 'mew-mew's real name to throw people off the scent!

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

DivineCoffeeBinge posted:

Man, I would read the hell out of that book.

Real-talk, my favourite moment in both Thor movies is that part in number 2, where all the Earth crew are saying each other's names, Mjolnir zips past on it's way back to Thor and Kat Dennings just chirps "Mew-mew?!"

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

bobkatt013 posted:

That holds up with Loki holding the hammer as he is not Asgardians either.

I kinda want Loki to show up with the hammer and Odinson's all "I KNEW IT!" and then Loki reveals it's a fake hammer he had a dwarf make for him and laughs his rear end off.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Main thing that I'm now worried about is if the sales numbers for the next couple of issues plummet, it'll encourage more over-long 'mysteries' like this.

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Wanderer posted:

Yeah, this is a "red herring" the way that all the hints about the killer were "red herrings" in Identity Crisis. The only clue to this outcome was that we'd never seen Jane up until now. Absolutely everything else pointed to Roz.

Uh... we did see her, though? Odinson even went to visit her to rule her out.

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