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Tanith posted:I got a venue 8 and want a stylus just to be able to right click things, are there ones I should be looking at? Is the Dell one going to be my best choice for this? The dell stylus is your *only* choice for the venue series. They use new type of digitizer (by synaptics, maker of nearly every laptop touchpad) that hasn't been put in any other products yet.
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Clark Nova posted:They use new type of digitizer (by synaptics, maker of nearly every laptop touchpad) that hasn't been put in any other products yet. Thank god. (this is my obligatory monthly post reminding the thread of how lovely the DVP8 Stylus is.)
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So I really like onenote on the surface pro with the pen for taking notes, but I'm not sure I want to drop nearly $1000 on a Surface Pro 3 just to take notes. Are there any other tablets available that have good pen input? I know the Dell ones are real lovely.
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Jan 23, 2015 20:23
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App13 posted:So I really like onenote on the surface pro with the pen for taking notes, but I'm not sure I want to drop nearly $1000 on a Surface Pro 3 just to take notes. Are there any other tablets available that have good pen input? I know the Dell ones are real lovely. If note taking was an important thing for me, along with a budget, I'd hunt down a cheap used SP2. (or SP1 if you can get away with 4 hours battery life).
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Jan 23, 2015 20:26
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Nerdrock posted:If note taking was an important thing for me, along with a budget, I'd hunt down a cheap used SP2. (or SP1 if you can get away with 4 hours battery life). How cheap should I be looking? $600 seems to be what they are going for on ebay
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Jan 23, 2015 20:39
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App13 posted:So I really like onenote on the surface pro with the pen for taking notes, but I'm not sure I want to drop nearly $1000 on a Surface Pro 3 just to take notes. Are there any other tablets available that have good pen input? I know the Dell ones are real lovely. Toshiba Encore 2 Write has a Wacom pen and has been getting really positive reviews so far. It's $350 for the 8 inch or $399 for the 10.1 model. PR posted:Toshiba's exclusive TruPen™, included with Encore 2 Write tablets, is a "pro-grade" pen with a fine tip and 2,048 levels of pressure sensitivity, enabling sharp strokes while minimizing lag for greater precision and accuracy. In hand, it virtually feels as natural as writing on paper.
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Jan 23, 2015 21:00
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App13 posted:How cheap should I be looking? $600 seems to be what they are going for on ebay That's about right, probably. as also posted, perhaps the Toshiba Encore 2 might be worth considering too. Did you have a target budget a bit more specific than "not $1000" ? 800-1000 gets you a SP3 (amazing) 600 gets you a SP2 (really good) 350-400 gets you an Encore 2. (sounds like it has potential)
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Nerdrock posted:That's about right, probably. as also posted, perhaps the Toshiba Encore 2 might be worth considering too. Did you have a target budget a bit more specific than "not $1000" ? I had $500 set for my budget max. I have a macbook air and a great desktop, so this would really just be for notes, the encore looks really interesting... I'll wait for reviews though.
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App13 posted:I had $500 set for my budget max. I have a macbook air and a great desktop, so this would really just be for notes, the encore looks really interesting... I'll wait for reviews though. If you don't mind slightly used...these are in your range: http://swappa.com/buy/microsoft-surface-pro-2-wifi
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I'm sure you could find used Surface Pro 2s for around $450, but if you don't mind a smaller 8in screen there's the asus vivotab note 8 and the toshiba encore 2, both of which should be under $200 used.
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juniez posted:I'm sure you could find used Surface Pro 2s for around $450, but if you don't mind a smaller 8in screen there's the asus vivotab note 8 and the toshiba encore 2, both of which should be under $200 used. Encore 2 doesn't have a stylus. It's only on the new Encore 2 Write.
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hotsauce posted:If you don't mind slightly used...these are in your range: Ended up finding a pro 2 with keyboard cover for $475, thanks for link.
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Nerdrock posted:Thank god. There's a new model pen now that sucks significantly less, possibly due to another company using the same technology enough to warrant a shared design. It's more consistent now and so far I haven't felt the urge to chuck it in a bin. It's basically suitable for OneNote now, doesn't make writing a chore, and looks nicer with the aluminum design they replaced it with. The battery life is a bit of a mystery, but daily weekday use for a month of notes and I haven't replaced it. My guess is that's about it before getting low since I noticed some detection issues in the last few days, but nothing that kept me from finished sentences or sketching things.
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Virion posted:There's a new model pen now that sucks significantly less, possibly due to another company using the same technology enough to warrant a shared design. It's more consistent now and so far I haven't felt the urge to chuck it in a bin. That's outstanding news. The DVP8 was so close to being a home-run aside from the digitizer, and the layout of the keys on the otherwise amazing official BT keyboard.
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Jan 25, 2015 16:05
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Is it still using AAAA batteries? I don't even know off hand what they look like.
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Tanith posted:Is it still using AAAA batteries? I don't even know off hand what they look like. Basically a shorter, smaller diameter AA or AAA battery. To be more precise, a AAAA battery has a dimension of ⌀7.5 X 40 mm vs ⌀13.7 X 50 mm for a AA.
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Tanith posted:Is it still using AAAA batteries? I don't even know off hand what they look like.
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mango sentinel posted:If you rip open a 9Volt battery it is actually 6 AAAA batteries wrapped together. Mostly only Duracell batteries, and check the polarity of each aaaa because it's often reversed!
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Jan 27, 2015 13:48
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Every 9-volt I've opened has been AAAA. There are ones that aren't? I use them for my surface pro pen and a lovely Bluetooth headset.
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Geirskogul posted:Every 9-volt I've opened has been AAAA. There are ones that aren't? Some 9v batteries are stacked flat cells, like Enercells I think.
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That makes total sense. Never thought about it that way. Speaking of pens, the pen for my Surface Pro 3 (i5) hasn't ever worked when I press the button. I mean, it draws fine, and I can turn it around to erase in OneNote, and I've reinstalled the metro version of OneNote and messed with settings in the Surface pen hub app. I can sync the pen with the button (it lights up), and pressing the button while having the bluetooth settings open causes the little "sync" bar to start progressing. I have removed the pen from devices and re-synced it, and installed windows updates, but no matter what I do the button can't be used to launch anything. Is there anything I can use to customize it? I'd like it to function, and when it functions I'd like to switch it to open Chrome or something.
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Jan 27, 2015 23:19
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Oh no, this sounds like a giant clusterfuck.quote:With Windows 10 Microsoft is going to make a desktopless version of Windows. At its Windows 10 event last week Microsoft said that there would be an 8 inch cut off point. At 8 or more inches, devices would run regular Windows 10. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...+All+content%29
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Call Me Charlie posted:Oh no, this sounds like a giant clusterfuck. Doesn't sound so bad. What are your thoughts on it?
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I think you should be able to choose. Like, one version of Windows 10 you buy, and whatever you install it on it defaults with the 8-inch rule, but you should be able to change it. Either way, the biggest thing is that the control panels (metro/desktop) should be COMPLETE and MIRROR each other. There's no reason I, on my Surface Pro 3, should have to open up the metro control panel to add bluetooth devices, but have to open up the normal one to add a printer.
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Jan 28, 2015 04:47
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I really think there's going to be exactly zero "Windows for small Tablet" editions. 8 inches is pretty much a good cutoff point for tablets and there's really not much point in making one smaller.
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They're moving the under 8" tablets to the Windows Phone style interface which should be a better fit for it.
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App13 posted:Doesn't sound so bad. What are your thoughts on it? Horrible idea on par with Windows RT. "I bought a 7 inch Windows tablet for $60!" "That's the fake Windows where you can't install programs." "But that weird nerd I hang out with said I could install programs." "No, he has an old tablet that got a special update." "Can I get that update?" "No, you need to return that for a 8 inch model" "Why does the 8 inch model get real Windows?" everybody on earth  bull3964 posted:I really think there's going to be exactly zero "Windows for small Tablet" editions. 8 inches is pretty much a good cutoff point for tablets and there's really not much point in making one smaller. I thought the same thing but there are people in this thread that bought a HP Stream 7 so I guess there's a market for it. Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jan 28, 2015 |
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I hope this means that small tablets will be able to run Windows Phone applications. My VivoTab 8 has sat doing nothing because there aren't any decent turn-by-turn navigation apps that run on non-phone versions of Windows. If I could run Navigon or something next to a Spotify window, that'd be great (and was originally why I purchased the thing to begin with, since I had a $100 microsoft store credit and my Nexus 7 is likely to soon be on its way to the great scrap heap in the sky.)
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Call Me Charlie posted:Horrible idea on par with Windows RT. Wait, ok say I get that WinBook TW700 7" Windows 8.1 tablet. If I install Windows 10 on it, will it have the UI of a Windows Phone?
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Kaninrail posted:I hope this means that small tablets will be able to run Windows Phone applications. My VivoTab 8 has sat doing nothing because there aren't any decent turn-by-turn navigation apps that run on non-phone versions of Windows. If I could run Navigon or something next to a Spotify window, that'd be great (and was originally why I purchased the thing to begin with, since I had a $100 microsoft store credit and my Nexus 7 is likely to soon be on its way to the great scrap heap in the sky.) It's been a few years since I messed around with it but did you try Mapfactor? It's free, has US maps and does turn-by-turn navigation http://navigatorfree.mapfactor.com/en/ I remember it being a pain in the rear end to set up but maybe it will work for you. teagone posted:Wait, ok say I get that WinBook TW700 7" Windows 8.1 tablet. If I install Windows 10 on it, will it have the UI of a Windows Phone? quote:Any existing sub-8 inch devices running Windows 8.1 will retain the desktop when upgraded to windows 10; it's only new devices that'll be desktop-free. So you should have the desktop and the UI similar to Windows 10 for Phones (if I'm reading that correctly)
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Call Me Charlie posted:So you should have the desktop and the UI similar to Windows 10 for Phones (if I'm reading that correctly) Huh, that's weird. I wonder why they made 7" the cut off for newer devices.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Horrible idea on par with Windows RT. They should still be able to run legacy programs. They just won't have a desktop which makes sense because the icons are hard enough to hit on a 10" screen. There will most likely be an updated version of the Windows Phone file explorer built in. It would be nice if they have a desktop "app" like the current Windows 8.1 setup but it will only be usable if it's hooked up to an external display.
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teagone posted:Wait, ok say I get that WinBook TW700 7" Windows 8.1 tablet. If I install Windows 10 on it, will it have the UI of a Windows Phone? Call Me Charlie posted:Any existing sub-8 inch devices running Windows 8.1 will retain the desktop when upgraded to windows 10; it's only new devices that'll be desktop-free. sounds to me that it'll behave pretty much as it does now.
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wookieepelt posted:They should still be able to run legacy programs. They just won't have a desktop which makes sense because the icons are hard enough to hit on a 10" screen. There will most likely be an updated version of the Windows Phone file explorer built in. Znet is reporting different but it looks like it isn't going to be a hard limit. quote:With Windows 10, Microsoft's SKU plan is more about what OEMs want and customers expect, as opposed to dictates as to what is or isn't the right chipset or feature set, from what I'm hearing from my contacts. http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-windows-10-how-the-skus-will-skew/
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Hey guys, Win RT was a complete clusterfuck, what can we do to recreate this amazing time in our corporation's history?
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I dunno, fragmentation in general is bad but also the desktop would be kinda useless on a screen that small  Like, we have no reason to believe that program compatibility would be affected at all here so it doesn't really seem analogous to me
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loquacius posted:I dunno, fragmentation in general is bad but also the desktop would be kinda useless on a screen that small I can see the appeal of having an ultraportable 8" device that you could, theoretically, plug in to an external monitor/keyboard/mouse and have a little workstation. Eliminating the full desktop would kind of kill this idea.
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Argyle posted:I can see the appeal of having an ultraportable 8" device that you could, theoretically, plug in to an external monitor/keyboard/mouse and have a little workstation. Eliminating the full desktop would kind of kill this idea. This is the problem I have with it. I've suggested the Winbook TW700 to a few people I know who were looking for exactly this. I'd be very unfortunate to lose that as an option.
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8" is the cutoff point, though. 8" tablets will still have the desktop. e: I wonder if you could install full not-the-small-tablets-version Win10 on like a Raspberry Pi or some equivalent tiny computer for the use case people mentioned, you wouldn't have the built-in monitor in that case but it doesn't sound like that'd be the main point of it anyway
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