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Janissary Hop posted:No Maya no buy, lovely Capcom. Well, Pearl is definitely in the game, not to mention Edgeworth. It's not like AA4 where they basically completely ignore everyone Phoenix has ever known
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Lord Chumley posted:He's the same voice actor from Marvel VS Capcom 3. I really love MvC videos of Nick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0tbSLG3Xw4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5l_-5Dbdc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzW6etCf03Q It's like watching a case unfold in fighting game format.
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Janissary Hop posted:No Maya no buy, lovely Capcom. How can you have Nick become a lawyer again without being accompanied by Maya? That is the antithesis of good sense and story telling. Yet I still just put $30 on my eShop account. Terper posted:I really love MvC videos of Nick. Lythero is a great person. Phoenix supremacy for life.
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So it's not a midnight release? That's too bad.
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Yeah, constantly checking the AU store. Guess it's cause it's not really a high profile release.
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Suspicious Cook posted:
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 17:37 |
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About Maya: Pearl delivers a letter to Phoenix from her. So even if she doesn't appear directly, her existence is given much more credence than AJ's "this kid I know" treatment
Plom Bar fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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I think it'd be cool if didn't post late-game spoilers before the game is even out, tagged or not. Maybe that's just me
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 18:26 |
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Your inability to resist the temptation of hovering over spoiler text is YOUR problem, not mine. If we can't discuss spoilers in a thread about the game, where can we discuss them?
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 18:31 |
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Here's an idea: Don't. It's out tommorow, would it kill you to wait just a few days? I mean, you're definitely allowed to post endgame spoilers to a popular story-heavy game in the first few pages, if they're behind spoilers of course. You're still a bit of a dick for doing so though.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 18:35 |
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People are asking a question that concerns the plot of the game. It is categorically impossible to provide a meaningful answer to that question without giving away at least SOME element of that plot. And by the way, the game IS already out in Japan, so it's not like these are deeply held company secrets that some one had to violate an NDA to get to me.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 18:39 |
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I think you could spoil it in a less detailed way at least. Just say Pearl brings you a letter from Maya and leave it at that.
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Edit: Ayup.
Terper fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Regarding the DLC, the costume DLC is free for anyone who buys the game until November 7.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 19:23 |
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Fine. I'll edit out the offensive part, but in turn I recommend that you edit that parts of your post that commit the same offense. This series isn't nearly popular enough to warrant multiple threads.
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Gaseous Snake posted:Dammit Turns out I can't read and I have more than enough space for Dual Destinies!
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Plom Bar posted:This series isn't nearly popular enough to warrant multiple threads. Well now you're just pointing out a huge flaw in humanity.
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Waffleman_ posted:Regarding the DLC, the costume DLC is free for anyone who buys the game until November 7. Where did you read this? I was looking around for DLC info at the Capcom-Unity site, but I couldn't find any information beyond "it's coming to America at some point."
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 20:44 |
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The Court Records Twitter posted it, so I'm assuming they got those dates from somewhere.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 20:58 |
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The free DLC deal was the same for the Japan release, so I'm glad that they're also giving the same deal to us. Also, who cares about Maya edit and Gumshoe If people choose to not give this game a chance because their favourite-past-characters might not show up in the game, then I've got low opinion on them because the game is already filled to the brim with excellent characters. HelloWinter fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Someone please tell me that Gumshoe at least moonlights in this game. gently caress it; lie to me and say Maya and Gumshoe team up to form a supernatural detective agency in a spinoff series.
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Barudak posted:
Yup, they even named the agency Ghost Trick. e: I should replay Ghost Trick someday.
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havenwaters posted:Yup, they even named the agency Ghost Trick. I love that loving game. I tried it at first and got confused and put it down for like two years. Then I promised myself no 3DS until I finished all my DS games. Ghost Trick was the last one and I was like "arrrgh." But then I got the hang of it and was like "Oh, I see, this is the best handheld game I've ever played, hmm."
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 21:29 |
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There is a disappointing lack of in the OP. (Thanks again to I think HelloWinter for making this wonderful thing for the world.)
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 21:47 |
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So it was a pretty major plot point in Apollo Justice that they... stopped holding unconstitutional trials without juries. Does the jury return in AA5 or is that just quietly swept under the rug?
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 21:52 |
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Haha, I remember that. There was also this I drew but I'm disappointed they didn't go this route for Edgeworth's design.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 21:59 |
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"Wright, how many times have I told you to stop interrupting me while I'm eating my giant lettuce?"
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 22:04 |
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How much is it? I couldn't find it in the OP
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Austrian mook posted:How much is it? I couldn't find it in the OP $29.99 For every copy you don't buy Capcom will release another Apollo Justice.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 22:36 |
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More like for every copy you don't buy the less you will see of Maya and Fran, do we want a world without the two best AA characters? By the way, is Ema in? I'm fine with reading character spoilers, I just want to know since she was like the best part of Apollo Justice, she made much more bearable than it deserved to be.
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Chaltab posted:So it was a pretty major plot point in Apollo Justice that they... stopped holding unconstitutional trials without juries. Does the jury return in AA5 or is that just quietly swept under the rug? It's kinda unfair to say that it's unconstitutional when it's a Japanese game using a fictional version of the Japanese legal system. The reason they had that case was because during AJ's development, Japan started doing jury trials again after like 50 years. It's the same reason Edgeworth and Franziska could become prosecutors at such a young age without going to law school, at the time in Japan, you didn't need a J.D. to take and pass bar. Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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I'm f5ing the gently caress out of the eshop but the game isn't magically appearing Why are you doing this to me nintendo.
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Waffleman_ posted:It's kinda unfair to say that it's unconstitutional when it's a Japanese game using a fictional version of the Japanese legal system. The reason they had that case was because during AJ's development, Japan started doing jury trials. The first case solution (time difference) is tweaked in English so the game's local time is U.S. Eastern (I think), and in French to be Parisian time.
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Waffleman_ posted:It's kinda unfair to say that it's unconstitutional when it's a Japanese game using a fictional version of the Japanese legal system. The reason they had that case was because during AJ's development, Japan started doing jury trials. Also why every suspect was guilty until proven innocent until the whole jury thing. Actually, I wonder if someone could clarify the whole prosecution/detective relationship, since that has always been confusing to me. So I gather that the prosecutors are hired by the state to secure efficient convictions of criminals - but then there's a symbiotic relationship with the police force on top of that, to which prosecutors act as superiors (with the ability to control the paychecks of detectives, even). And they also take part in official homicide investigations. Meanwhile attorneys are privatized, and seem to have every disadvantage when it comes to the defense of suspects, since prosecutors have greater control over evidence due to their connection with the police and also have a leg up due to every suspect being assumed guilty from the outset. Is this even remotely close to what the Japanese legal system is (or was) like, or is it just complete nonsense?
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univbee posted:The first case solution (time difference) is tweaked in English so the game's local time is U.S. Eastern (I think), and in French to be Parisian time. I forget which case/game explained it, but the English version of Phoenix Wright (both US and Euro) is set in Los Angeles.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 23:00 |
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I'm kind of happy to hear that there aren't too many returning characters. I mean I like the old cast and all, but cluttering a game with cameos can be pretty detrimental to the overall story sometimes. The first Investigations game kind of felt like it overdid with the cameos a few times and wasted screentime it could have used to develop its own characters, so I'm more or less glad it doesn't seem like there are too many old characters in the game. That said, I'm a complete hypocrite because I'm glad Edgeworth is in the game and wouldn't change that if I could.
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# ? Oct 23, 2013 23:01 |
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I've gotten an error message after trying to download the demo like 4 times in a row, what's up with that?
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Hakkesshu posted:Is this even remotely close to what the Japanese legal system is (or was) like, or is it just complete nonsense? The Japanese legal system is really really bad. Its not a 100% accurate rendition of it but its close enough to let you understand that if you are suspected of a crime in Japan you are right and proper boned. Most prosecutors enjoy 99%+ conviction rates and cozy relationships with the police.
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Hakkesshu posted:Also why every suspect was guilty until proven innocent until the whole jury thing. Yes and no. The police run investigations, and if they believe they have a suspect, they present evidence to the prosecutors, and prosecutors review the evidence and decide if they'll press charges. It's very similar to the US justice system (which also has faced accusations regarding the symbiotic relationship between the police/prosecutors/crime labs, most notably from the Academy of Sciences.) Burden of proof is still on the prosecutors. The main difference is that instead of a jury trial, all criminal trials in Japan up until recently were bench trials, where the judge is the only one who hears evidence and makes a decision. Japan had an extremely high conviction rate, but Japanese prosecutors are also known to be exceptionally cautious when it comes to pressing charges, and typically wouldn't take cases before a Judge they thought they had any chance of losing. Japanese police also (again, just like the US), is and was very aggressive with trying to force defendants to confess and/or extracting plea deals from probably innocent people. It's very easy to win cases as a prosecutor when the police just hand you a confession.
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Aerox posted:It's very easy to win cases as a prosecutor when the police just hand you a confession. Didn't stop Phoenix.
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