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Thanks bewbies. I've been eagerly anticipating this thread
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SteelAngel2000 posted:Spoilers: The Texans will draft Johnny Football And it will be my Mel Mudkiper moment
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Oct 24, 2013 03:51
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Ozu posted:Updated with full season SoS. Texans are #1 because they lost H2H to the Jags
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Nov 26, 2013 18:57
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SteelAngel2000 posted:H2H has nothing to do with draft order Seriously?  I wonder why I thought it did. So it's only a playoff tiebreaker then?
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Nov 26, 2013 19:07
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That's for games played so far. He's using the full season SOS The Jags and the Texans have the same schedule (except for each other) except the Texans have Patriots and Ravens while the Jags have Bills and Browns
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Nov 26, 2013 22:34
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His size makes him look like a OLB but I've read he's not really suited to play the position so IDK If he can play the position, then I'd feel super comfortable with a front 7 of Watt, whoever, Smith (on a new, much cheaper deal), Clowney, Cushing, Reed, Mercilus
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Nov 26, 2013 23:49
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Watt manages to be a monster pass rusher at DE in a 3-4 on a team that where he is pretty much the only real pass rushing threat, I think he'll be fine at 4-3 DT or DE
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Nov 27, 2013 01:12
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Getting Cutler and Clowney would make me so happy
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Nov 27, 2013 03:49
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defiantgiant posted:If they let Cutler walk I am going to throw a thing at my TV. He's the only decent QB we've ever had. Somewhere Sophia just got really mad and isn't sure why
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Nov 27, 2013 05:31
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bhsman posted:I'd hate to see him leave Chicago, but Cutty as a Texan? Man... I should stop listening to sports radio because I get annoyed when ND Kalu and Greg Koch and Charlie Palilo poo poo all over the idea of signing Cutler
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Nov 27, 2013 07:34
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Kirios posted:I'm getting pretty excited about Bridgewater in Houston you guys. Yeah the idea of an honest to god elite QB in Houston is pretty enticing So of course he'll bust hard
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Dec 2, 2013 05:13
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bhsman posted:I'll be happy for Bridgewater but Clowney is the best option. If we switch to a 4-3 with a Watt/Clowny DE tandem (or Watt at DT) I'll be pretty god drat stoked, that would have the potential to be even better than Freeney/Mathis was. But if we go into next season with no better plan at QB than Keenum then gently caress I'm also not sold on Tahj Boyd, even if he fell to the 2nd
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Dec 2, 2013 10:35
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I'm warming a lot more to drafting Bridgewater or maybe Mariota. There isn't a much better situation for a rookie QB than the Texans have. Brown-Jones-Myers-Brooks-a RT who isn't Derek Newton is a pretty nice line, and having AJ80-Hopkins-Posey-Martin-Daniels-Graham as receiving options and Foster at RB is pretty stout. I still hope a healthy Quessenberry can take over the RT responsibilities, but really anyone but Newton would be a pretty massive improvement in pass blocking.
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Dec 3, 2013 09:53
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That depends. Do you think Boyd and Mettenberger are 90c on the dollar what Bridgewater is? Clowney's foot scares me
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Dec 3, 2013 10:02
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Clowney is built on high school rep and a single productive year, and moreso on a single play against Michigan. Isn't he mostly riding his blue chip status at this point? It's not like we're dying to draft Garret Gilbert e: I mean I won't argue that we don't need a pass rusher becuase holy gently caress do we, but with Smith coming off the books and Schaub getting cut that's ~$13m in cap space there, or we could use a day 2 pick on a pass rusher, but passing on a first round QB in a top heavy QB draft is kind of questionable IMO And we can probably resign Smith at a much lower price Intruder fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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Dec 3, 2013 10:15
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bhsman posted:I hate to be that guy but do you watch his tape for this year? He rarely gets left alone with a Tackle; he's often chipped or double/triple teamed, and even when he isn't the play involves a quick pass over him or a run away from him. Feel free to be "that guy" because I'm looking at his stat sheet, I don't watch CFB So seriously feel free to correct me e: is the whole "he doesn't fit in a 3-4" thing bullshit? Intruder fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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Dec 3, 2013 10:18
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I guess the idea of having a top QB prospect appeals to me after what I've lived through with the Texans, I don't want another Schaub Then again I also don't want another Carr  bhsman posted:Ehhhhhhh it's possible; if he gained a few more pounds of muscle he could play the DE spot (he's already taller than Watt, just 15 pounds lighter). Against UNC he stood up on a play or two and blew right past James Hurst, but again the play involved a quick pass. Is OLB out of the question? Because I'd like drafting Clowney a lot more if he could be opposite Mercilus and Antonio could be signed at a much lighter salary
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Dec 3, 2013 10:23
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Well that doesn't mean going QB over DE is always wrong Also who knows what Carr might have been without the worst OL in history
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Dec 3, 2013 10:26
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I guess I wouldn't be heartbroken by taking Clowney. Also if the Bears let Cutler walk and he somehow ends up in Houston and we get Clowney well that would be my dream scenario. I just don't want to be in a position where Keenum is the starter in 2014bhsman posted:EDIT: lol some random YouTuber complained that he uses the swim move too much. Watt would like a word... Oh man when we drafted Watt I watched all his youtube videos and hated all the ankle tackles and assumed he'd be a huge bust so yeah don't trust my judgement Intruder fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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Dec 3, 2013 10:32
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Well I'm about halfway through the Tennessee video and all I've seen so far is Clowney getting blocked out of plays by a single blocker or him beating his man away from the side the play is being run to. Also a pretty terrible facemask
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Dec 3, 2013 10:44
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Arschlochkind posted:Clowney's scouting report has "Facemask leaves something to be desired." at the bottom. Rick Smith ponders it for a moment, shakes his head, and removes him from the Texans' board. As in he tried to remove a player's helmet via facemask
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Dec 3, 2013 19:11
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I guess in a QB draft this deep it might make more sense to take Clowney
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Dec 3, 2013 19:18
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Arschlochkind posted:Clowney/Manziel it is then.  Now I know why bhsman wants Clowney so badly 
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Dec 3, 2013 19:32
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Relentlessboredomm posted:More likely to get you to the playoffs pick one: It's kind of funny that in this example the QB you picked is the one player listed who hasn't been to the playoffs even if I'm still leaning toward agreeing with you about needing to take the QB
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Dec 3, 2013 19:50
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TheChirurgeon posted:Exactly. You'd take Clowney if you were going Best Player Available. QB is a need pick. Though in many ways, I think offensive line is a more pressing need for Houston at the moment. I don't quite agree on this. Newton is a trainwreck, but I think you're pretty solid at the rest of the positions going forward. Ben Jones will do nicely in replacing busted rear end Wade Smith and Brandon Brooks is filling in nicely at RG as well. They're not on the level of the 2011 line but RT is the only real glaring need on the line at the moment, and hopefully Quessenberry's return from injury will address that. If not, you can probably get a decent RT. I think Kubiak just falls in love with his guys and gets stubborn and that's why Newton is still around I just can't imagine taking a RT #1 overall (although I guess the Chiefs did it)
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Dec 3, 2013 19:55
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We need to just trade the #1 overall pick for Luck
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Dec 3, 2013 22:32
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Arschlochkind posted:gently caress it, everybody pile into the Clowney Carr. If they take Carr I hope he gets #8 so everyone can recycle their jerseys
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Dec 4, 2013 00:01
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You take Stafford over Clowney 100 out of 100 times
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Dec 6, 2013 19:33
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Player C: 7.2 YPA, 6.5 AYPA, 4.6 TD%, 3.4 INT%, 83.5 QB Rating Guess I shouldn't want Jay Cutler either 
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Dec 6, 2013 20:15
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Is he really 30? Ok then, withdrawn
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Dec 6, 2013 20:18
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What is it with you and Boyd anyway?
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Dec 6, 2013 22:46
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Keenum 3 times in the top 11 aw yeah
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Dec 7, 2013 03:16
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TheChirurgeon posted:Is it too early to start talking about future superstars John O'Korn and Deonte Greenberry? It's never too early When was the last time Houston got a four star recruit before Greenberry?
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Dec 7, 2013 20:05
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Fussy Dutchman posted:loving Greenberry leaving ND high and dry on signing day. It owned quite a bit Man, Atlanta had me thinking the Texans had the #1 pick completely sewn up for awhile there 
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Dec 9, 2013 07:03
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e: forget this I am dumb Instead I'll say there's no way to say for sure what the SOS will end up being yet, what if everyone the Texans have played wins out and everyone the Falcons have played loses out or something like that. The fact that the final week is divisional games mitigates that somewhat Intruder fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Dec 9, 2013 17:46
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Doltos posted:They are? The Rams are bad but there are nine other teams with worse records, and 3 other teams that are tied with them right now. I think the best addition they could make in the draft is sending their first rounder to some team as long as they take Brian Schottenheimer with it. From the RG3 trade Unless you're saying wioth your trade talk that they shouldn't use that pick and I'm misunderstanding
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Dec 9, 2013 18:27
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If the Bears let Cutler walk to give the job to Josh McCown then everything I know about football is wrong
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Dec 9, 2013 18:38
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Doltos posted:The Texans getting Clowney would be incredible. I really don't think they should give up on Keenum just yet as getting Clowney would make them rival the Parcells era Giants. I feel like the Giants had more than three really good defenders and eight guys who are just bodies
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Dec 9, 2013 20:43
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BlindSite posted:One slight x-factor in the whole QB carousel is Locker. I think he showed enough this year to warrant a shot somewhere, somehow but apparently Tennessee don't want to pick up the option on his contract. IIRC all the contracts are 3 + 1 option then they become a free agent. I think Gabbert is gonzo in Jacksonville for that reason. There is approximately a 0% chance the Texans would hitch their wagon to Jake Locker Taking in the castoff who wasn't good enough for the team that left Houston to want to keep? No way
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Dec 11, 2013 09:40
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I could live with Clowney/Hundley Not that I think Hundley would last until the second round if he declared
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Dec 11, 2013 18:31
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