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tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

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Dan7el posted:

Andy and Frank are my two favorite characters in this anime.

If you follow pro cycling those names are really funny.

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tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

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Xelkelvos posted:

I don't think many of us do. What's the joke?

It refers to Andy and Frank Schleck, brothers from Luxembourg who are pros riding for the Trek Pro Racing team. Both are excellent climbers and probably the worst sprinters in the peloton, especially Andy. Here is a video of them getting owned by Philip Gilbert in a 3 way sprint, that they had no business losing (2 vs 1)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BizjxLt0Q2c&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Andy (the younger of the two) was basically the next big thing a few years ago, probably on the way to winning the Tour de France. In 2010 he and Alberto Contador were the to big favorites to win the overall. On stage 15 Andy (who was leading the Tour by a handful of seconds after Alberto got caught behind a crash on stage 3) was on the attack on one of the big climbs, getting close to dropping Alberto when he dropped his chain instead (mis-shifting or something) delaying him. It's kind of an unwritten rule in the peloton that you don't attack the race leader when he has a mechanical problem, but Alberto took off anyway (claiming he didn't know that Andy was having a problem) eventually winning the stage and taking the Yellow Jersey (for the leader) by 9 seconds. Andy was really pissed off after the stage, famously saying: "My stomach is full of anger and I will have my revenge", and most everybody thought Alberto was a dick for doing it. On stage 17 Andy and Alberto dropped the rest of the field on the final climb by a large distance effectively making the race for the overall between the two of them. As the stage wound down Andy kept trying to crack Alberto and won the stage, but he wasn't able to put any time into him. In the final Time Trial Alberto put 26 or so more seconds into Andy and solidified his grip on the overall, winning the race, with Andy in second.

Eventually Alberto would have the title stripped from him due to a doping violation, so Andy is in the books as the official winner of the 2010 TdF, but nobody really considers him the true winner.

Basically: Real Pro Cycling is almost as full of drama as Yowapeda.

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tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

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XboxPants posted:

Hahaha, that's fantastic.

Do you know anything about how realistic their portrayal of the importance of your core body strength was? Also, do people ever talk at all during races like this? Obviously they're going to talk more in this show just so they can have a story, with dialogue, but it'd be nice to know whether all this race-chat is just an exaggeration, or something completely made up.

A lot of talking goes on during races. In the pros they chit-chat alot (about girls, cars, funny things they see on the side of the road, vacations, etc) in the peloton during the early parts of races where they're just cruising along, but in the breakaway (group of 4-10 guys that the peloton will let ride away before chasing them down during the closing stages of the race for...complicated reasons) they're riding too hard to say much more than 'go go go!', 'ok we have a gap, lets work together', 'take your pull!', 'lets work', etc etc. The team directors will also drive up in their cars and talk to their riders 'how are you feeling?', 'so and so is looking tired, lets pick up the pace and try and put him in trouble', etc etc. In amateur races I've been in it's mostly 'whoa whoa whoa' and 'hold your line' and 'hey!' in the field, and 'work together!' and 'pull through!' and 'smooth rotations!' etc in the breakaway.

P.S. here is the pro cycling thread on the forums. Some of the best racing of the year is coming up (the Spring Classics, one-day races held in Belgium and Northern France): http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3600421

tylertfb
Mar 3, 2004

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DrSunshine posted:

As a person who seems to be into pro-cycling, what do you think of the anime (and possibly the manga if you've read it) so far? Are they accurate? Any inconsistencies?

I'm actually only reading the manga (online) but heres my 2 cents: The way the race tactics are portrayed are mostly wildly unreal but the spirit of the whole thing is pretty much right on the money. Competitive cycling is a weird hybrid of individual performance and total teamwork, and the manga really manages to convey the feeling of riding yourself into the ground in service of your team leader, of wanting to push yourself past your limit, of hurting yourself to hurt other people, of temporary alliances that everybody gives their all to, even knowing that they are going to end in complete betrayal. So even if 'blocking' is not nearly as big of a thing as it is in the manga/show, and even if there is no way the three top sprinters go away from the peloton on a long distance breakaway and so forth and so forth, I'd say it gets the 'feeling' of competitive cycling almost exactly right. The bikes and other gear are also very faithful to the real things too.

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