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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Hit BRD 25 and unlocked BST, I think I should probably get WHM/BLM to 20 for subbing too. This game has that inertia thing, where one thing keeps implying a bunch of other things - for BRD I need NIN, for NIN I need gil, for gil I need to farm, for farming I need BST, and so on until eight months from now I might have a monster signa

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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Hit 15 BST last night, gonna go back to Qufim and try to get BRD to 30. My plan for BST is to level it behind my main class for farming purposes - I went from 1-10 in the mines and got like 2k worth of nonsense, then 10-15 in the fumaroles for like 10k in landcrab meat and beehive chip.

What I'm wondering is where would y'all recommend farming as a solo BST in particular? Anywhere I can make a decent amount in like, a not mind bending amount of time? Otherwise I was told I could do fishing and get close to 90 in "five or six hours a day for a week or so"

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Kazy posted:

Nasomi sounds awful, why would you do that to yourself

Its cheaper than paying someone to beat me up and give me noogies once a week

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Yeah there seem to be a lot of confused people who are younger than the game itself running aimlessly around North Gustaberg, and Valkurm Dunes has been consecutively setting server records. Overall population has grown too, typically around 800 at off times and 1300 at peak, give or take a hundred

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



WarMECH posted:

All this private server talk is giving me PTSD flashbacks why would you do this to yourself? In the time it's taking you to get BRD to level 30 you could have gotten it to 99 with all subs leveled and soloed Zilart and CoP with your wacky gang of Trusts.

I know because I did just this. BRD/DNC fo lyfe.

Honestly I'm having fun with the community and the feeling of accomplishment that comes from finishing some self-set goal within the enormous body of content in FFXI. It's cool to relive a vibrant server from this era with lots of other players for me personally, despite changes in general game design over the years.

I don't find the retail game very appealing from what I've seen about the emphasis on gear collection, missions, etc. it seems fine for what it is and the logical evolution of the game but I have the free time right now, and there aren't any other MMOs that replicate the group dynamic or gear system that FFXI had in this period.

I get the whole lol it's dumb and masochistic thing but it's no worse than project 1999. I'd almost argue it's less punishing, leveling on Nasomi has been a lot faster and easier than leveling my Shaman on P1999 was. I'm sure I'll burn out eventually but until then I'm honestly having fun fulfilling some boyhood goals

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Yeah I've been concerned about Nasomi getting shut down, everyone on here is dismissive and the admin insists he has some system that absolutely means it won't get a C&D, but I can't imagine what that could possibly be since the server is on the East Coast of the US. That and the capricious bans / regular private server nonsense are both slightly worrying.

I'm probably gonna grab retail while its on sale for $10 as a contingency plan, since they managed to retrieve my POL account from 2004.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I was into that but I never actually got a character to 75, so I really want to experience the zones as they were with other people while I have the time and there are players. Also, holy heck, I need a third account for a store in order to buy the seekers edition, which needed my password which I forgot cus it was saved, which requires a security question even with the link, which I forgot. So I couldn't buy it and had to email square support again

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Yeah, but it is almost 100% likely FFXI mobile will be basically a completely different game with a tenuous at best relationship to the existing PC servers. It definitely will not allow people to play retail as it is from their phones, most people think its going to be some kind of weird spin off.

But it could still convince square a C&D is worth it, calculating the awareness of the retail game via nasomi might not be worth it anymore

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



ghostinmyshell posted:

I am an idiot and trying out this private server which reduces your level to 1 if you die.

is there anyone on there insane enough to have made it to level 75 under these conditions? if there is, that person should almost certainly be examined, we could learn a lot

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I played on a true classic server for quite awhile last year right before finding a full time job (you can see my posts in this thread for more) and it was quite an experience. I got BRD to 30, the farthest I've ever gotten in FFXI since I was 11 when I first played it on PS2 and just never had the wherewithal to get much further than Jeuno / the first airship pass. I wouldn't really call it fun in the regular sense but I found it an enormously enjoyable way to fill the time I had when I wasn't doing anything but smoking pot and firing off applications all day.

that being said, I can't even do classic WoW now, a year later, with a girlfriend and an 8-4 office job, so classic FFXI would be totally impossible. what I'd love is some weird hybrid that is basically the same as classic and the emulator I was on, which had a huge playerbase and felt exactly like launch, but with QOL improvements (maps, quicker travel, free teleports, tele crystals by default, no quests for chocobo/airship, no death on boats) and, i dunno, 10-15x exp rates.

FFXI remains my favorite MMO for so many reasons but all of them conflict with its ability to be played by adults with other commitments and I'm not even sure that particular contradiction can be bridged

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



CyberLord XP posted:

People talking about classic / progression servers, have you tried any of the various private servers? I've played on several and have landed on one recently which I quite enjoy. You can really find one for any level of commitment.

I played a lot of Nasomi and if I were to win the lottery / become bedridden by a horrific injury I'd probably keep playing

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



On a whim I decided to try to reclaim my old FFXI account to get the collection for $10 and god, just like last time I made an attempt to do this, it's just so unbelievably difficult. Somehow the SE support portal is broken and it keeps telling me a required field is empty even though I've entered the relevant info in it, no matter how many times/different things I type in the box it won't let me submit

it's genuinely enraging

ed: anyone know how to get around this?



no matter what I type it tells me the field is empty. i tried the phone, email, and chat submission and none would let me reach someone without that field, which seems to be broken. :psyduck:

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Feb 27, 2020

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Since the seekers is $10 on steam I might just say gently caress it and start a new account, but before I do that, does anyone have a world pass to a semi-populated server?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



WarMECH posted:

Isn't the POL ID something in the format of ABCD1234. Can you create a Square Enix Account (if you don't have one already)?

Hmm, I honestly can't remember, my POL ID was (I thought, at least) the same general name I used online when I first made it at PS2 launch in 2002, and it seems to fit but doesn't work for submitting a support ticket. I do have a SE account already from when I played FFXIV at launch, so I was hoping to link my super old account to it...I've heard support can usually take care of that in a jiffy, but since I can't get through the form to submit to them, I'm a bit stuck. I'll re try it using the format you just mentioned and see if that allows me to submit.

ed: dope that worked, I just tried the first four letters of my old account name and 1234 and it at least let me submit the ticket

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Feb 27, 2020

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



They couldn’t retrieve my old account with my birthdate, email, name, address, and POL ID, none of which have changed since 2002, so I’m gonna buy it and start fresh via steam

Someone hook me up with a world pass plz

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Necrosaro posted:

World pass code:
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dope thanks! I just bought the game and am installing it via steam so feel free to edit the image out if you think there is a chance someone else might snap it up in the interim. mucho appreciated!

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Yeah, I dunno, I downloaded from steam and it's not letting me in. I tried using the POL password and my square account password because it requires both somehow (???) and it kept telling me my PW was wrong, then on the third try it disabled login attempts for three failed password tries. I'm very confused as to how I can actually even log in now that I have bought the game and added the key to my SE account, and the support site indicates if you aren't getting in, you've probably forgotten your password and have to reinstall playonline or something.

ugh

ed: had to change my POL password on the website and then enter that AND my SE account password to get in. lmao

ed2: now it's saying I don't have an active "content ID" even though the SE account says my account is active. hmm

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Feb 28, 2020

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



thanks! I forgot about the whole, like, basic service plus paying per character. got my one character added and i'm good to go i think. gonna apply the world pass as soon as the updates finish. I think I'll make a Hume like I played on the private server and start out with RDM, then take BLM for my sub, then get BRD, and then see where that all takes me

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Feb 28, 2020

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Oh thanks I wouldn’t have even thought of that, I will definitely do so sincen it sounds like there are a lot more items and tokens in the mix then there are in classic

For leveling the game is very solo friendly now right? I can do Bastok 1-10 classic with my eyes closed but I get the sense that things are a lot faster now, which is great because I don’t have a ton of time for MMOs but want to see all the cool parts of the world I never got to see since I never really made it past qufim in all the time I played over the years

Ed: assuming I get that far, the client update hard locked my laptop and I had to force restart lol

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Feb 28, 2020

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Cool, I’m on Asura as Dongquixote, Hume RDM

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Sorry about the triple post - now that I'm in, do I need Windower or anything? I can't find the graphics settings so i'm assuming I still have to go through and tweak all the info in the registry or whatever, but if I'm remembering correctly there's a good program that increases graphics/resolution without manual stuff, is that still applicable?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



I’m pretty impressed with the windower graphics, it enhanced them enough my lovely laptop was starting to have trouble, so I’m turning them back down a bit. But wow it looks great, I can’t wait to see how it runs with all these tweaks installed on my real PC.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Shart Carbuncle posted:

One thing that I found helped a ton was using this dll that makes the game sort of use Direct3D 9 instead of 8. https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/129943-Direct3D8-to-Direct3D9-Proxy-Performance-Helper-(For-FFXI)

I think specifically it works because 9 introduced (or fixed) switchable graphics. When you're playing on a laptop that has both a crappy integrated graphics chipset (some intel junk) and a dedicated GPU, the unmodified game will just run on the first thing it sees, which is the lovely one. This DLL makes it detect the better one and use that instead.

It won't do anything on your desktop, but if your laptop has two GPUs it could be worth a try.

There's also a Glide wrapper that some people use with the game that's supposed to offer major performance improvements, but it seems fiddly to get up and running.

edit: the end of the linked thread mentions some alternative methods of achieving similar things, maybe those are worth a look, too.

Edit2: just tried the last one, dxwrapper, and it does seem to have better performance, and doesn’t seem to have the z-fighting issues with shadows that the other dll has.

Thanks man! I’ll fiddle with this next time I’m trying to play on my laptop. I mostly plan to play at home where my regular computer runs it with visual enhancements fine, but it’s nice to have the option

Anyway I got in and met up with some top quality goons, got to level 5 in 5 minutes, and am feeling excited about learning to process all these new mechanics. I’m astonished at how vital asura is right now, Bastok is packed, even more than nasomi, and while I’m sure that will change in places like Valkurm it’s real encouraging. Also a very nice fellow gave me a million Gil which I understand is not much broadly but is definitely enough to keep me in vendor subligars and longswords for the foreseeable future. Think I’m gonna take RDM to some high level first cus it improves skills for every class (does that matter in retail anymore?) and then go for BRD and WHM

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Necrosaro posted:

Skill levels matter a lot especially attacking monsters over your level. You can buy books to raise skills with sparks or for gil in the AH.

Ah word so they matter but leveling RDM to cultivate them isn’t as necessary because there are books now? Cool

I’m also curious about spells - are they generally affordable/findable at merchants? On Nasomi I couldn’t afford refresh but it seems likely that spells can be bought from vendors now, rather then relying on drops?

Ditto for equipment, is it foolish to rely on vendor gear for leveling or does it not matter as the pace is so fast now? Should I be doing the whole saving up for particular pieces and getting a spatha/armor every couple levels?

kirbysuperstar posted:

They also give you some for some Records of Eminence - be sure to do lots of those

Dope, thanks! It’s cool that there are just like an enormous number of those that can be selected and done anytime. Seems like most of the low level ones are pretty doable, so as a general rule before doing anything other than missions, I should try to find an ROE for it? There was something on the BG guide about ROE and floating books but I haven’t seen any books, anyone know what that was?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Kieyen posted:

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Fields_of_Valor

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Grounds_of_Valor

Fields of Valor are found in outside areas and Grounds of Valor are found in dungeon type areas. They are repeatable quests to kill specific monsters or monster types. When completed they award bonus exp, gil, and tabs. Tabs are currency used at the books for stuff like warp, buffs, or food. Grounds are better, because they give you a random bonus buff when completing them. They can be set to auto repeat after completing.

Oh man thanks! I had a mission for those but thought it was that short lived PvP mode from like fifteen years ago

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Necrosaro posted:

World pass code:

Edit:redeemed

thanks man! let me know next time we are on at the same time and we can hit port bastok together for the ring benefit. I'm Dongquixote, be on for another hour or so tonight and regularly throughout the week

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Where are the main trust vendors? I know there are some from the login campaign, do the others come from story stuff?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Shart Carbuncle posted:

You can buy a bunch from the city guard NPCs who are part of the conquest campaign or whatever it’s called. Homies who hang by the gate and cast signet on you, letting you earn crystals and conquest points (?).

God, trying to explain anything in this game makes you realize how esoteric it is.

Ah yeah, word, I saw there were two available for 500cp but I was told they’re only usable during missions and story things? There are just so fuckin many, I feel like they’re easy to miss

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Thanks man, I haven’t even heard of a unity but I was in a group with a friend using Yoran Oran and Trion and they were extremely effective, so I’ll look them up and try to get them specifically

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



So I hit level 30 RDM, cool goons hooked me up with some gil, now I’m wondering what to level. My intention was to play BRD but will it be hard to “fit” into a trust and be effective? Someone in a linkshell told me BRD is useless without relics and high end gear, is that typical MMO exaggeration stuff? I have no interest in high end raids

Besides that what is the current best leveling SJ for RDM? I’m gonna take WHM to 30 for BRD but I figure there might be other options

Any other fun as heck jobs I should try? Historically I always wanted to try Paladin, but rune fencer looks pretty dope

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Is COR a viable support class without the relics and intense high effort gear? Support and healing are my two main interests. I also don’t know anything about Scholar

Ed: so I think rune fencer looks hella fun, both tank and DPS, cool plate armors, two handed swords. Is it always /BLU or is it /WAR? I’m leveling WHM to 20ish real quick for RDM subjob and them I’m gonna go unlock some advanced jobs, then do the missions with one of those, either COR or RUN. There’s just so MUCH to do in this friggin game

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Mar 3, 2020

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



WarMECH posted:

If your intention is just to have fun doing quests and missions to see the story in all of the expansions then really any job will be fine. I re-subbed a couple of years ago with this plan and decided to level BST to 99 which was fun but it really didn't click with me. I switched over to BRD/DNC and never looked back.

With a full team of Trusts (tank, healer, Ranger, Samurai for skillchains, and another for pure damage) I would buff them with songs, debuff the mob with slow/DoT songs and dance for more debuffs while dual wielding daggers and fighting alongside them. It was a lot of fun because I had something to do every fight instead of just auto-attack. Also, Spectral Jig is great for exploring and avoiding mobs (it's no MP cost Sneak/Invis that lasts a set amount of time) and Chocobo Mazurka to run fast thru zones.

BRD might not be endgame worthy unless you have shitloads of relics and gear but for the rest of the game it was pretty great.

Cool, I don’t think I have time for endgame stuff anyway, so maybe I’ll just level it cus I want to. Spent about three hours this morning just doing...poo poo, got WHM and WAR to 12, unlocked NIN, started nation missions and did the first ROV chapter

It sounds like I can use ROV to skip ahead and it will grant me trust slots so I should prioritize those, but they also require you to do nation missions I guess? The guide is so huge, which is kinda how I’m feeling about things in general, I just have so many options as to where to go or what to do I’m a bit lost. I guess time to do nation missions, level RDM some more, then unlock COR

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Cool, maybe I’ll just focus on red mage a bit since it has some good overlap and will make some of the other poo poo much more tolerable. Does having a sub job even matter much? Guess I should get WHM to 35 at some point and then go back and get it to 54 at cap?

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



What’s everyone’s in game name on asura? Curious what other goons are playing, seems like there might be a good number around right now

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Kazy posted:

As a career COR, COR has a low barrier to entry but a nearly infinitely high ceiling. It's my only job and I'm still missing a lot of gear (mainly the Lilith stuff).

e: I'm Suteru in game, but haven't been in the shell much since it was just Jamie's bots for a while.

cool! i think I'm gonna go unlock COR soon then. i just don't have the time to invest in what sounds like a major process getting the relic pieces necessary for BRD to maintain four songs, but I do want to participate in some of the less time-sucky endgame stuff in the distant future, so COR sounds like a good compromise. plus i love the guns. either way the leveling seems so fast once you've got some kis and a job at cap it should be trivial to level them both anyway

Tsurupettan posted:

I'm not playing atm but probably will in the near future but I'm Vellamorn in game and i'd be happy to help you with weird annoying things like getting past certain barriers that need KIs, once I'm playing again. Also our discord is a good place to ask questions too, should be a link in OP.

dope! I'm not even in the Goon shell, I don't think, just a big one called BombToss and another slightly more casual one other goons that used to post in this thread are also in, but if more posters start playing I'd definitely take a pearl. I'll check the OP and hop in the discord, I don't voice chat much since I strongly prefer text but disc works for that too

It seems like a major thing is doing the ROVs for the kis that give you significant passive bonuses. the first one gave me a permanent +30% exp bonus and I've heard having a job at cap yields a similar one, so I guess my first goal right now is to hit 99 with RDM to secure the extra bonus and make missions/subsequent ROVs up to a certain point easy. got to level 40 last night, saw garlaige citadel and the crawlers nest for the first time, was fun as heck. i'm close to refresh and I heard the first artifact weapon quest starts at 40, and as i understand it, RDM is a good soloer with trusts for NMs, missions, etc, so hopefully it will be helpful to have around.

unlocked NIN but it seems kinda wack. like, by level 15, you have no damage dealing abilities, some random useless stuff, and only the one that seems any good is ichi but nobody tanks anymore so it doesn't have a major purpose for leveling. then looking at the other stuff like tonko: ichi and all the other ninjutsu I bought I'm not really seeing how it will be majorly useful, though I only bought it up to level 30 or so from the tenshodo HQ. Do they mostly rely on weapon skills as a fast hitting DPS thing these days? NIN seems like it's worth leveling to at least 54 as a relevant subjob for RDM, COR, and a bunch of other jobs.

at least i can afford spells. i'm one level away from refresh and it's gonna be so satisfying buying and using that when I quit Nasomi because it was 400k and farming up 100k took a full week.

also, Necrosaro, I will join the goon discord as DongQuixote and if you happen to be on any time in the next couple weeks and you see me on (Dongquixote on Asura) I'd be really pumped to get my hands on the echad ring. my understanding is i have to get it from the person who gave me the worldpass, or at least be grouped with them at the time, so let me know whenever and I will hop on

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Carmant posted:

I'm an attractive guy in a large metro who also happened to play FF11 for too long. I got plenty of swipes and sex the normal way but after a while I got bored and started playing games and needed a more playful way to approach it. So I deleted my Tinder account and when the servers came back up the NM (re)spawned for the first time.

We all know how NMs work in FF11. There are a very wide range of spawn conditions and some pop for 1h every 2h then depop, some pop bi-annually. I had to figure out how to strike a balance so I was challenging to catch, not to confusing, a rare find to stumble across, and not be so elusive that I never got laid. Hmm...

I played with a bunch of spawn conditions for me Tinder card to be online. Next full moon. Next time it rains in my zip code. Wednesdays from 7 to 7:15. After drinking (killing) 40 protein shakes. From 2 to 3 while I lift weights. Every time my Tinder card was online I put the information with my next spawn condition and directly told girls to tell other girls to see if they could catch me.

I didn't let many more than before catch me because I can afford to be picky, but watching those swipes come at me in real time when I "spawned" always gave me some of the largest smiles in years.

They were all waiting for the NM to pop, and they were ready to Provoke it when it did.

:same:

also the loving fetich quest. my god. i spent like an hour killing quadavs the other day and only got the head. i'm hoping to log in later from work and run around a bit with trusts on my level 12 WHM or maybe NIN to get some levels while i do it, but holy poo poo, palborough is really extensive and full of neat stuff, but mostly i can't believe they haven't patched this drat quest in 20 years

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



WarMECH posted:

Check the AH, I think you can buy those things if someone has listed them. Also, make sure you are fighting the mid-level Quadavs because the ones on the first floor/area don't drop the stuff you need. I think I farmed the ones around the BCNM entrance and got them relatively quickly.

yeah I got all but the chest off the AH but, as noted, there are shitloads of 99s running around and presumably botting because i kept seeing people discard fetich pieces in the info pane but none of them responded to my tells or shouts

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Haven’t had much time to play this weekend but the little time I did have has been doing mission 3-3, I think trying to do it sans mount was a big part of why I quit nasomi. I’m really beginning to appreciate the get around mechanisms in retail

Also, what are a good set of trusts? I’ve been using Valinewhatever, Tenzen, the trust taru WHM, and just a random DD

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Thanks dude. There seem to be a lot of things that only show up during festivals and login campaigns, hopefully I haven’t missed my chance, but I guess they’ve said they’re not gonna stop producing content / server events until at least 2022 right?

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Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Delighted to see all these new goons. Please send me gil and equipment post haste

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