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Ok yeah I just opened mine and thought it was a gently caress-up because the envelope both inside and out is covered in black dust. From the way it smears and got over loving EVERYTHING ON MY DESK I'm guessing it's printer toner or something like that. The warning label on the envelope really made it seem like a "this music will cause you to think rebellious thoughts, user beware!!!!" type of thing, didn't think it was an actual disclaimer that "ok when you open this black dust is going to explode over everything in a 12" radius." It's kind of retarded, IMO. The cards are pretty cool, but I hope they're waterproof because otherwise the whole thing is going in the trash. e: loving lol Trent just trolled the poo poo out of me and everyone who's been trained to gloss over Terms & Conditions because it totally says "AND THIS IS IMPORTANT... This will make a mess." on the sticker
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 19:24 |
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# ¿ May 19, 2024 22:39 |
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obeyasia posted:I'll buy yours off you for $25 shipped. Haha I checked on eBay and people are actually paying $60+ for these unopened. Not saying your offer is too low, just couldn't believe there's already such demand for them. Once I get them home and clean them off a bit, I'll see if I want to frame them or do something equally artsy, otherwise they're yours if you actually want them. Mind if I ask why you want them? Just a big collector of NIN stuff? Non Serviam posted:An unboxing of the physical component: https://www.instagram.com/p/BRG1kcThMfy/?taken-by=jmetalblast Yeah once the realization that the toner dump was an intentional artsy thing and not a printer error set in I actually started to look at them and they're kinda cool. Will post pics later. Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Mar 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 20:27 |
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Non Serviam posted:I don't know if there's actual "demand." Since NIN often release things in short supply, it was obvious some people would just order them to resell them. Some idiot is listing his at USD 180 (he listed his preorder). Honestly? Since the envelope is all-black I figured it was just a poor print job on the envelope itself, I didn't expect the inside of the envelope to be full of it as well. e: I really did think the warning on the envelope was some sort of Year Zero "MUSIC IS SUBVERSION" deal, so the real answer is I'm a dummy who didn't read the warning all the way through
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 20:57 |
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BANME.sh posted:it's probably just charcoal, why on god's green earth would they use toner? Whatever it is, it was hard as hell to clean off. Having experienced a black toner cartridge break and having used charcoal pencils in the past, it smears and sticks more like toner. I'm sure eventually someone will have a major freakout about it and Trent will issue an explanation somewhere. Dr Tran posted:Is it just black dust and cards or is there a CD inside? Not gonna open mine No CD, just the cards. One of the ones I got looks like a blown-up negative photograph and it's on clear plastic, but the rest are cardboard.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 21:21 |
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Dang, they're 6x9" instead of 5x7 or 4x6. Finding a frame that'll hold all 7 of them is going to be a pain.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 22:15 |
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Spatulater bro! posted:Wait, so there's no CD for NtAE? Doesn't appear so, digital or vinyl only.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2017 22:18 |
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The really good music Bittorrent sites are crazy about ridiculous stuff like that, where they'll request FLAC 24/192 upgrades to their current 24/96 or 24/48 FLACs while pretending that their $500 headphones and $500 preamp allow them to hear things they wouldn't hear on a V0 MP3 rip hell even a V0 rip is designed to only go as high bitrate as it needs to at a given time and if you look at it they rarely go above like 224 e: poo poo, even production god/Alan Parsons reincarnate Steven Wilson thinks that 96/24 is as high as you need and he releases his poo poo in dedicated 5.1 formats and such, and in his own words even 96/24 is mostly a "why not" thing: quote:"“Even if the difference is 0.1 percent better, why wouldn’t you do it?” he asks. “There is information in those tracks that’s missing when you listen to a CD.” Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Mar 2, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 05:14 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:
I will admit that Trent's attention to musical detail means that the live poo poo is absolutely awesome in terms of quality. Another Version of The Truth - The Gift probably gets more play than any other NIN stuff in my car lately. Not only is the sound quality top-notch but I just loving love how the older stuff sounds with a full band - the Big Come Down is a prime example of that.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 10:44 |
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david_a posted:DVDs/BluRay support a variety of audio formats, especially if you also lump in the audio-only versions of them. 48KHz probably exists because of technical reasons (the math works out a bit easier than 44.1KHz which is a bit of an odd number). I don't know why they bothered going beyond that, but an AV receiver is more likely to add effects (stuff like "late night mode" that compresses the dynamic range) so maybe that has something to do with it. I don't think you would need to jump to 96KHz for it, but I think I read somewhere that they bumped up above 48KHz so they could do 7.1 surround mixes on Blu-Rays. Dunno how true that really is, though. Sir Lemming posted:I mean, I'm not trying to say a CD version would sound like crap compared to the higher resolution version, just that it's unnecessary. At this point it places an arbitrary limit on the distribution and presentation. There are other, (possibly) better ways to distribute and listen to lossless digital audio, and NIN is using them. I think that's basically the gist of that article I linked before - 44.1/48 is just an unnecessary limitation, so even if the sound quality difference is imperceptible there's no reason not to do it. It'd be like intentionally using older versions of production software when the upgrade is a free download. Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Mar 2, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 15:39 |
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Earwicker posted:oh I agree it's unnecessary (unless it was some kind of aesthetic thing), just pointing out that the downgrade in audio quality is not in any way substantial enough to affect the decision either Yeah I'm really not sure what I was expecting. It didn't mention a CD, just a "physical component" so I figured it was going to be some sort of artwork or print or whatnot. I still think the black dust thing is a little artsy-fartsy, but we are talking about a band that left USB drives in concert venue bathrooms that contained gibberish noise MP3s that revealed URLs and images when run through spectrogram software so In other news turns out the wife has a matting thingy so I'm hopefully gonna frame them this weekend. e: I'm waiting for someone to figure out that if you dip the black envelope in rubbing alcohol the black paint comes off and reveals something that leads to a Year Zero pt. 2 ARG or something
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 15:46 |
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Earwicker posted:there is only one recording of YZ pt 2 in existence, it was on one vinyl record which has subsequently been broken into 420,0000,000 pieces which are then distributed evenly among everyone who purchased this ep. that's the black dust. only in the event of all NIN fans coming together and assembling the album will it be heard. I would 100% would not be surprised if it turned out the black dust was, in fact, the powdered remains of the only extant copy of the YZ2 masters that Trent recorded and just ended up hating. Ultimate troll is if he tells people it's the powdered remains of the Tapeworm masters e: no wait let's make it bigger: Trent is the one who stole the masters for that lost Green Day album. That's what the black dust is.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 16:11 |
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Earwicker posted:if that were true you should just put the dust in the garbage haha joke's on you it's already firmly nestled in my lungs
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 16:16 |
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Immolat1on posted:So whats the best way to rinse this poo poo off the cardboard pieces? I'm assuming water will ruin them. Is the only option for framing to frame them covered in grime for the ultimate ~metal~ experience? I just wiped them down with paper towels. It smudged some of the pieces some but that just adds to the ~art~
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 19:16 |
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Obsurveyor posted:Hah, he even showed us in the picture on the store exactly what we were getting, you can see the dust all over the bottom of it. Glad I looked this up before I opened mine. I wonder if it's stuff they use for finding fingerprints. That poo poo is like this. If it's toner, be careful, that stuff is carcinogenic, don't breathe it. Yeah it's probably not toner but like I said earlier I fully expect someone to have a full-blown freakout over it and Trent will have to issue a statement explaining what it is
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 21:38 |
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Leon Einstein posted:They already said it's ground up make up. Source?
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2017 22:33 |
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I GOT MY ARMS A FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 17:59 |
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david_a posted:That will always be his worst lyric. Always. Kelp Me! posted:I GOT MY ARMS A FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 21:45 |
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Leon Einstein posted:For the millionth time, that was a Pere Ubu homage. Source?
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 22:54 |
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BANME.sh posted:https://genius.com/Pere-ubu-navvy-lyrics Makes sense, thanks! I like the live version of Closer because you would be amazed how many people never realized there's a whispered verse during the bridge, and it's much more pronounced live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd5TBCu9hgM&t=155s
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2017 22:58 |
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Entropic posted:Maybe I'm biased having listened to that album a million times on headphones as a teen, but how do you not hear that on the album version? Honestly? I got into NIN really late (With Teeth/YZ era) and had heard Closer so many times on the radio or MTV or whatever when I wasn't that into them that I never really paid attention to it. I knew there was something being said but I never heard it clearly, so it almost seemed like a new part of the song on the live version.
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2017 01:47 |
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Samopsa posted:I really dig that live bassline coming in at the end of that verse TBH that live album/DVD (Another Version of the Truth: The Gift) is one of my absolute favorite NIN recordings. I've always respected how NIN was 99.9% Trent for the longest time, but I really love the sound that comes out of a live band. That live recording breathes awesome new life into already great songs and it loving rules. It doesn't hurt that the light show on that tour was absolutely insane. loving Justin Meldal-Johnsen, his bass tone is so sick that whole lineup for this tour was stacked as gently caress. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNXHR_Pe5JI e: also the entire concert is free in HD, it's an absolute must-watch: http://toiou.org/downloads/
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2017 15:13 |
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Immolat1on posted:Well at least I've got some new bands to check out. And excellent points about tone and distortion. I guess a better example than Led Zeppelin would've been Metallica, which they have to be king of corny lyrics yes? (not industrial I know but this convo now applies to metal in general) GIMMAY FUEL GIMMAY FIYAH GIMME THAT BIBABABIBAA
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2017 00:28 |
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Who plays bass in that lineup, Atticus?
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 15:37 |
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algebra testes posted:They toured Australia with that line up minus Ross and it was dope as hell. Not who I would have guessed considering he's always in the back with his spoopy synth setup although I guess it doesn't really matter, when they had JMJ on bass half the time he was playing guitar anyway I still question whether or not they really needed Trent, Robin and Justin all playing the same guitar riff for Wish and a couple other songs
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 15:50 |
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The best thing is I can't watch the Another Version of the Truth videos without always remembering the other notable appearance of JMJ:
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2017 16:14 |
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Nine Inch Nails: FRAGILE WHEN
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2017 14:59 |
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Obsurveyor posted:Ooh, the extra couple micrograms I have in mine is probably my hoodie too. You might be able to pull a 5-second clip off an x-ray of my lungs after tearing open the package without fully reading the label
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 16:37 |
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Obsurveyor posted:Decisions, descisions: Sprinkle on platter and try to play it on a record player or rub it all over my body and see how warm it keeps me this coming winter. The 2nd option, but film it and it'll be the music video for the next single
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# ¿ Jun 2, 2017 17:05 |
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I cannot wait for another EP for all the fans to get hyped about and then trash when it finally comes out NTAE was good yo
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# ¿ Jun 5, 2017 21:01 |
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Earwicker posted:eh, personally I often just end up focusing on the music in movies even if the movie is pretty good. Just as an aside, I never saw either movie, but I read the book and for the life of me I can't understand why it's an international megahit when it's literally some James Patterson-level generic murder mystery garbage. I recall the ending being particularly stupid.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 17:45 |
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Earwicker posted:lol your question kind of answers itself, James Patterson is hugely popular, he shits out a generic "co-written" book literally every other month and every single one of them hits the top 5 on the bestseller list, often #1. Yeah I mean I know it's basically the same garbage (see also Tom Clancy, John Grisham, Michael Chrichton, Mary Higgins Clark, whoever writes those C is for Crime books, etc.) but it's always struck me as a little odd that this random Swedish crime novel blew up like that. I don't think I've ever seen a Tom Clancy novel adapted into a movie in a non-English-speaking country, for example. I mean the guy who wrote it died under mysterious circumstances and a couple books in the series were published posthumously, right? IIRC there was a bit of around all that so maybe that helped make it more well-known or something.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2017 18:06 |
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Hidden tracks were , one of the features I miss about buying CDs. Even better is pregap tracks, always loved those. Due to being a stupid teenager who made bad decisions the sole remaining NIN physical media I have left are CD copies of With Teeth and the Day the World Went Away single I finally have enough disposable income to feasibly get back into vinyl but digital is so drat convenient and if I was really a stickler for quality most of this stuff is available as FLAC anyway...
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 14:47 |
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sleepwalkers posted:Yeah, the CD version with the tracks on the same disc came after the mini CD version, and had tracks... what, 7 - 97 as one second long sliences and the two tracks as 98 and 99? Mini-CDs are dope, we use them for our product catalogs (it's cheaper than printing them). Fully compatible with any CD player (in fact if you look at a CD drive tray, there's the outer groove that a regular CD fits into, and then another smaller circular groove - that's for mini-CDs!). They store something hilariously small like 60MB though. Ours are even fancy shapes!
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2017 15:18 |
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[24 minutes of unnamed instrumental tracks that perfectly encompass the ambiance and mood surrounding my disappointment in the album packaging]
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# ¿ Jul 4, 2017 02:58 |
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you guys who haven't gotten yours yet might be worried they'll get damaged me, I'm not
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2017 04:54 |
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The new EP is literally a shirt. You toss it in the washing machine to listen to it.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 02:34 |
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Spoiler alert the entire Trump campaign/presidency waa an ARG for Year Zero pt. 2
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2017 22:53 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bFNYu7VKpk&t=62s
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2017 15:10 |
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hbxli posted:Aah, the age old question of "Do I love Nine Inch Nails more than I hate Itunes?" I don't think I love anything in the world more than I hate iTunes on PC it's a little frustrating coming from someone as generally anti-music corporate bullshit as Trent tbh
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 15:55 |
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# ¿ May 19, 2024 22:39 |
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The REAL Goobusters posted:https://youtu.be/gDV-dOvqKzQ I really like this. Really strong With Teeth/YZ vibes off of it.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2017 16:10 |