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 WarCraft III is a real-time strategy (RTS) game by Blizzard Entertainment. Reign of Chaos was released in July 2002, and was the sequel to the previous game in the WarCraft franchise, WarCraft II. The Frozen Throne was released a year later, in July 2003. WarCraft III is the predecessor to World of WarCraft, and the events of WC3 segues directly into World of WarCraft's lore and universe. WarCraft III was met with critical acclaim and widespread success, being one of the most reputable and well-renowned games of the genre for its "well-executed story, drum-tight gameplay, and long shelf life as a multiplayer title." WarCraft III is a gem in the gaming industry, not only for its great campaign and excellent game mechanics, but also because of the community that was built around it and its longevity due to that community's dedication and hard work. So why should you be interested in playing WarCraft III when StarCraft II supposedly fulfills your RTS needs and World of WarCraft is the theoretical fount of all WarCraft goodness for those so inclined to that universe? Well, if you haven't played the campaign through at least once then that's reason enough, but more importantly to the interests of the goon community: Custom games. As we'll get into later on, custom gaming Otherwise: Welcome to the WarCraft III megathread, motherfucker!  1. The Game: "No, it's not WoW!" 2. The Campaign: "Arthas! No! ... Illidan! No!(?)" 3. The Multiplayer: "Night Elves are OP." 4. The World Editor: "What the hell are doodads?" 5. The Customs: "It's not all LOAP and DOTA!" 6. So, Let's Play... 7. F.A.Q. 8. Media 9. Miscellaneous  "No, it's not WoW!" - Every person who ever tried to tell someone about WarCraft III. As mentioned above, WarCraft III is an RTS by Blizzard that was released in 2002 as the sequel to WarCraft II, and is the predecessor to World of WarCraft in the franchise. The first WC3 game is Reign of Chaos, and the expansion is The Frozen Throne. WarCraft III is most well known not for any revolutionary game mechanics that it injected into the genre (multiple races and such were already introduced into the franchise by Blizzard's rock-paper-scissors-but-sometimes-paper-beats-scissors-and-rock-beats-paper formula in StarCraft), but for its memorable and compelling story, rich online community, and its incredibly flexible and intuitive world editor that enabled its continued relevancy in the ever-changing gaming industry. More specifically about the game itself, WarCraft III allowed you to play as any of four races, each with their own unique abilities, strengths, weaknesses, and etc. As in most RTS games, your ultimate objective of annihilating the enemy was achieved by gathering resources, building structures, and raising an army of troops to battle with. There were many ways to go about doing this, and in fact even how you gathered gold and lumber and constructed buildings varied from race to race.  quote:The noble warriors of humanity employ both a strong military and powerful magics in the defense of their shining kingdoms. Both knights and wizards fight side by side on the field of battle against those who would threaten the sanctity and peace of the Alliance. Although the Alliance has all but fallen apart, the valiant citizens of Azeroth and Lordaeron have once again taken up arms against the enemies of humanity. "The Human Alliance is a conglomeration of Humans, Elves, and Dwarves. They are the most versatile army in Warcraft III, with good ground and air troops, excellent siege capability, and powerful spellcasters." The Humans' main advantages are:
More information on the Humans, including tech-trees, units, advanced tactics, and more.  quote:The Orcs, who once cultivated a quiet Shamanistic society upon the world of Draenor, were corrupted by the chaos magics of the Burning Legion and formed into a voracious, unstoppable Horde. Lured to the world of Azeroth through a dimensional gateway, the Horde was manipulated into waging war against the human nations of Azeroth and Lordaeron. Hoping that the Horde would conquer the mortal armies of Azeroth, the Burning Legion made ready for its final invasion of the unsuspecting world. "The Horde possesses the game's most powerful ground units, including the savage Grunt and gargantuan Tauren. The Orcish Horde has modest air and ranged capabilities, but their true strength lies in their brute strength and raw melee power. Even the magic of their spellcasters is designed to enhance their frontline troops." The Orcs' main advantages:
More information on the Orcs.  quote:The reclusive Night Elves were the first race to awaken in the World of Warcraft. These shadowy, immortal beings were the first to study magic and let it loose throughout the world nearly ten thousand years before Warcraft I. The Night Elves' reckless use of magic drew the Burning Legion into the world and led to a catastrophic war between the two titanic races. The Night Elves barely managed to banish the Legion from the world, but their wondrous homeland was shattered and drowned by the sea. Ever since, the Night Elves refused to use magic for fear that the dreaded Legion would return. The Night Elves closed themselves off from the rest of the world and remained hidden atop their holy mountain of Hyjal for many thousands of years. As a race, Night Elves are typically honorable and just, but they are very distrusting of the 'lesser races' of the world. They are nocturnal by nature and their shadowy powers often elicit the same distrust that they have for their mortal neighbors. "The Night Elves of Kalimdor are a mighty race that emphasizes mobility, ranged firepower, and spellcraft. They do not have the brute strength of other races, but their skills with bow and magic more than compensate for this deficiency." The Night Elves' main advantages are:
More information on the Night Elves.  quote:The horrifying Undead army, called the Scourge, consists of thousands of walking corpses, disembodied spirits, damned mortal men and insidious extra-dimensional entities. The Scourge was created by the Burning Legion for the sole purpose of sowing terror across the world in anticipation of the Legion's inevitable invasion. The Undead are ruled by Ner'zhul, the Lich King, who lords over the icy realm of Northrend from his frozen throne. Ner'zhul commands the terrible plague of undeath, which he sends ever southward into the human lands. As the plague encroaches on the southlands, more and more humans fall prey to Ner'zhul's mental control and life-draining sickness every day. In this way, Ner'zhul has swelled the ranks of the already considerable Scourge. The Undead employ necromantic magics and the elemental powers of the cold north against their enemies. "The Undead Scourge is a well-balanced faction that can field enduring ground forces and powerful air units. Their spellcasters possess a variety of powerful magics, including the dreaded ability to raise fallen allies and foes alike into an army of walking dead. In this way, the Undead can field armies more numerous than any other race in Warcraft III." The Undead's main advantages are:
More information on the Undead. Also, WarCraft III spawned DOTA.  "Arthas! No! ... Illidan! No!(?)" - Every person who has ever felt an emotional connection to bad boys with big swords. (In WarCraft III.) WarCraft III's campaign incorporated the same narrative form of storytelling that StarCraft introduced into the genre, whereby the narration was told from the perspective of all characters from all four races as the overall story evolved, eventually entangling all these characters together in a beautiful mosaic of "holy-poo poo-what-the-gently caress."  There are many spoilers ahead pertaining to the plot of Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne.If you have not completed both of these games, then get off your lazy rear end and do so right the gently caress now.  Reign of Chaos begins our story, and first follows the tale of Arthas, the prince of Lordaeron, son of King Terenas, apprentice of Uther Lightbringer, and most-voted lord of luscious golden hair. After defeating an orc uprising with the help of his mentor, the paladin Uther, Arthas investigates a strange plague that is afflicting the denizens of Lordaeron, only to find that it is part of a plot crafted by the necromancer Kel'Thuzad to kill off the human population to bolster his undead army. After slaying Kel'Thuzad, Arthas becomes fixated on stopping the spread of the plague, traveling to the human city of Stratholme in hopes of preventing the infected grain from reaching the people. Arthas discovers that he is too late, and, at the mockery of the dreadlord Mal'Ganis, decides to cull the city. This horrific decision ends with Arthas being exiled from the kingdom by Uther. Arthas decides to travel to Northrend to find and slay Mal'Ganis once and for all. While there, Arthas becomes more and more obsessed, sabotaging his own men from returning home and pressing onward into the icy wasteland. He finds the ancient cursed blade Frostmourne with which he puts down Mal'Ganis, only to discover that his hollow triumph comes at the cost of his sanity. Arthas, with Frostmourne whispering madness to him, makes his return to Lordaeron. Upon his arrival, Arthas returns to his father's court. King Terenas welcomes him with open arms, but Arthas thrusts his sword into his father's chest and usurps his throne. Arthas, now a deathknight of the Undead Scourge, brings forth the armies of the undead to wipe out the remnants of the Alliance in Lordaeron. Mal'Ganis and the other dreadlords return, and convince Arthas to revive the necromancer Kel'Thuzad. This task requires Arthas to not only destroy the Silver Hand Paladins and use his father's urn as a container for Kel'Thuzad's remains on the trip to Kalimdor but also results in Arthas slaying the Night Elf Sylvanas Windrunner. Arthas and Kel'Thuzad then work together to open an inter-dimensional portal that allows the true masters of the Scourge - The Burning Legion and the Elder demon Archimonde - to arrive in Azeroth. Meanwhile, Thrall - an orc warchief - brings his people across the sea to Kalimdor at the behest of the prophet Medivh. While there he leads his people across the land with the help of his brother Grom Hellscream and a tauren chieftain, Cairne Bloodhoof. Grom submits himself to demonic corruption in order to defeat the Night Elf demigod Cenarius, and Thrall is forced to destroy the demon possessing his brother. At the end of this, Thrall allies himself with Jaina Proudmoore - a human sorceress also instructed by Medivh to go to Kalimdor - and her troops in order to fight against Archimonde and the Burning Legion. Tyrande Whisperwind, sentinel of the Night Elves, struggles to protect her homeland from the Scourge and the Burning Legion. She awakens her love, Malfurion Stormrage, and the Druids of the Claw and Talon, as well as Illidan Stormrage - the Great Betrayer - in hopes of stopping the demonic onslaught. Illidan becomes an important instrument in weakening the Burning Legion, but at a great cost: Illidan, in an attempt to prevent the corruption of the forest and to become more powerful than any of Archimonde's lieutenants, consumes an ancient skull of great power which transforms him into a half-elf, half-demon monster. Medivh then convinces Tyrande and Malfurion to ally themselves with Jaina and Thrall's troops in order to defend the World Tree Nordrassil. The defenders eventually fall to Archimonde's demonic horde, but as Archimonde moves to consume the World Tree's power, Malfurion springs his trap, which results in an incredible burst of energy that annihilates Archimonde and the tree. However, the tree, unlike Archimonde, will eventually grow back and continue to feed the land with its lifeblood. Peace falls on Azeroth once more, until...  The Frozen Throne enters, in which Illidan Stormrage plots to destory the Frozen Throne and prevent anyone from gaining its unholy power by fusing with the Lich King that resides within it. Illidan's warden, Maiev Shadowsong, pursues him as he makes his escape across the sea with the help of his new allies, the aquatic serpentine Naga (once Night Elves who adapted to underwater life) and their leader, Lady Vashj. Illidan attempts to use the Eye of Sargeras, an ancient unholy artifact buried deep in a tomb beneath the sea, in his plan to destroy the Frozen Throne, but Maiev deceives Malfurion Stormrage into helping her intervene and together they destroy the Eye. Once Malfurion discovers Maiev's treachery, Malfurion pardons Illidan to spite her. Illidan continues on his journey, and the narrative changes over to Kael'Thas Sunstrider, a Blood Elf sorcerer who attempted to assist Maiev and Malfurion. Kael'Thas leads a band of Blood Elves that survived the Scourge's attack on Quel'Thalas (the Blood Elves' homeland). They are imprisoned by a racist Human knight named Lord Garithos, but they are eventually rescued by Lady Vashj. Lady Vashj convinces Kael'Thas to join her in assisting with Illidan's cause, and has Kael'Thas and his men transported to the remnants of the Orcs' old homeworld, Draenor. It is there that they join Illidan, who, with the help of the native Dranei, fend off Maiev once more and conquer the Outland. It is here that Illidan hopes to remain in solitude, but after an audience with his demon lord, Kil'Jaedan, Illidan decides to once again vow to destroy the Frozen Throne. Meanwhile, in what is now the Plaguelands, a civil war is breaking out amongst the Undead Scourge. There are three factions: Arthas and Kel'Thuzad, who are still loyal to the Lich King, Sylvanas Windrunner (now the Banshee Queen after her resurrection), and a third group led by the Dreadlords who remain loyal to the Burning Legion (they are unaware of Archimonde's defeat at Mt. Hyjal and the World Tree). Arthas and Kel'Thuzad head to Northrend to the Frozen Throne while Sylvanas and the Dreadlords continue to war over the remnants of Lordaeron. Sylvanas ultimately succeeds and gains rule over the Plaguelands, while Arthas meets the subterranean Nerubians who aid him in his quest to reach the Frozen Throne. Upon finally arriving to the base of the icy mountain where the Lich King's spirit resides, Illidan engages Arthas in one-on-one combat. Arthas ultimately prevails (though Illidan survives) and ascends to the top of the mountain. There, he strikes the ice encasing the Frozen Throne and dawns the Lich King's armor, forming an unholy union between his soul and the Lich King's. And there, atop the highest point in all of Azeroth, the new Lich King broods over his thirst for world domination, waiting for the right time to strike... In World of WarCraft's expansion: Wrath of the Lich King.   Spooky.  "Night Elves are OP." - Anybody who plays Human, Orc, or Undead. (And a lot of Night Elf players, too.) The multiplayer of WarCraft III is structured in a very similar format to other RTS games, and is especially similar to Blizzard's other wildly famous RTS, StarCraft. Like in any RTS, two sides select their race and are then pitted against one another to vie for domination on a map with gold mines, lumber, neutral creeps, and other objectives that are at the disposal of whichever side claims them for their own. Up to twelve players can participate in a game of WarCraft III, but in structured matchmaking (where players were adjudicated and placed by the system based on their performance and then tiered on a ladder) players can only participate in 1v1's, 2v2's, 3v3's, and 4v4's. However, in custom unranked games, players can create as many sides as they choose to (even in-game, with impromptu allying) with as many players as they like. With WarCraft III, Blizzard continued to update their work in the RTS genre by improving and including many features that were not present in StarCraft, including team ladders for ranked play, third-party observation of games in real-time, and the ability to trade resources and share units. WarCraft III's multiplayer is also more hero-focused. Heroes are special units that possess a slew of unique abilities that allow them to drastically alter the battlefield. quote:Can you explain the idea of Heroes and how they work? Each race has three (four in The Frozen Throne) heroes each with their own attributes and skills that each offer various uses to employ in combat. As a hero levels up (level cap is ten) through combat, the hero becomes more powerful, unlocking additional skills as well as gaining more hit points and strength. At level six, the hero unlocks their ultimate ability which can range from calling down a shower of magical energy to heal friendly units to transforming themselves into a demon to unleash unholy hellfire upon their enemies. Heroes added an entirely new element to the game, augmenting the way players formed their unit compositions. Heroes were unheard of in StarCraft, and so with the addition of heroes we saw many different ways to approach the game that would not have been possible in StarCraft due to there being no special units like heroes in SC's multiplayer. Like other RTS games, Blizzard designed WarCraft III's multiplayer to be quick and fast-paced: quote:How long do games usually last? Because of WarCraft III's structure and an overarching map design that is considerably open-ended, there are a variety of ways with which a player can approach forming a strategy against their opponents. With the inclusion of multiple paths with which to traverse the map, a day and night cycle, additional resource nodes and secondary objectives guarded by hostile neutral creeps, and even destructible environments (lumber, unlike Vespene Gas in StarCraft, is not contained to fixed nodes like gold (WC3)/minerals (SC), and is destructible either by harvest or by siege), there are a lot of different methods players can employ to forge new routes for their war path. Click here for more about the multiplayer, including detailed information on the game, the ladder system, map design, and etc. In summary, multiplayer played a huge part in keeping WarCraft III alive. It established a thriving online community full of players all with a deep passion for the game, which was only encouraged to blossom even more into the magnificent beast it was with the inclusion of the...  "What the hell are doodads?" - Everyone their first time opening WarCraft III's incredible World Editor. The World Editor is the crowning achievement of WarCraft III. The World Editor is the end-all-be-all, the holiest of all things holy. The World Editor once saved a cart of orphans from being trampled by a stampede of llamas. The World Editor found the cure for cancer. The World Editor is the best thing that ever happened to you, and the world in its entirety. The World Editor is everything: it is love and it is life. More seriously, the World Editor is the developer kit for WC3's engine that was included with the game upon its release, free for use by all owners of the game. quote:With the Warcraft III World Editor, you can create your own 3D maps and even your own complete campaigns. You also are able to create triggers and scripts within each map, as well as adjust the size and color of the many models present in the game. That may not sound like a lot to some of you, but the World Editor is what kept WarCraft III alive for so long. Through the use of hte World Editor, AOS (and later, DOTA) was spawned. The World Editor is arguably one of the most intuitive and flexible - while still being extremely user friendly - devkits ever to be released, and it is probably the most successful in terms of sustaining its community and remaining relevant years after its release with no major updates or overhauls (unlike other devkits, like the Unreal Engine's or CryEngine's). The World Editor greatly improved upon StarCraft's editor, StarEdit, while still remaining relatively user friendly (with much more difficult features for advanced users), and helped to revolutionize the online modding community of not only Blizzard titles, but of the industry as a whole. It became a shining example of what a developer can do to sustain their game many years after they stop updating it, as WarCrat III's custom games are still alive today. The World Editor allowed players to not only design their own maps from the ground up, it also allowed them to drastically bend the functions of the game through the use of triggers, scripting, JASS, and countless other features. Players could import entirely new tilesets, sound effects, and character models to create custom games never imaginable within the confines of WarCraft III's fantasy setting. It allowed dedicated and creative users to produce such classic beauties as...  There are countless resources for those who are interested in learning more about the World Editor. Many are listed in the Resources section below, but here are a few to give you a taste:
The possibilities of what one can create with the World Editor are nearly endless, and it still acts as a great starting point for any beginners looking to break into the world of interactive design. And with that, we finally get to the part that becomes relevant to the Something Awful gaming community in its entirety...  "It's not all LOAP and DOTA!" - Unknown Custom games. The final frontier. This is where the magic happens. This is what WarCraft III is all about; not the campaign, not the competitive multiplayer, not the compelling lore and fantastic fantasy world... No, custom games was and is the lifeblood of WarCraft III. It is in custom games that friendships were formed, tears were shed, and memories were created to last a lifetime, and where all these miraculous things continue to happen. And you, my dear reader, can be a part of it. Custom games created in the World Editor covered the whole spectrum of games. Not only DOTA, but a whole mass of other popular games sprang forth and prospered in the custom gaming lobbies of Battle.net. There are tower defenses, hero arenas, ridiculous life simulators, mini-games, puzzles, open RPGs (with persistent character progression from session to session), entire campaigns, and all sorts of other wild and insanely creative games that don't fit under any of these labels. There are a lot to list, but here are just a few for those of you who played WarCraft III in the glory days:
The list goes on and on, and there are countless ones I've never even heard of, let alone played, that I'm sure are still incredibly popular or well-made games. You can find more on one of the many custom gaming websites, listed in the Resources section below. Now, you may be thinking that all of this sounds pretty drat interesting. You may have your interest piqued, and you'd like to see what all the fuss is about, or you're excitedly fumbling around your desk for your WarCraft III install discs as you read this... McSlaughter fucked around with this message at 04:16 on Jan 6, 2015 |
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 I'd like to begin an initiative to start playing custom games with the goons of Something Awful in an attempt to relive the glory days and maybe bring about some new glory days, if things take off. We'll play whenever we want, sometimes organizing game nights in advance and other times just setting up impromptu lobbies of Mad Balls Arena or some other such nonsense just for the hell of it. Hell, if there's anyone who would like to go through the effort, we'll even play new custom games created by goons right here on SA. I'll update this section as we acquire a voice server, an IRC channel, and all the other proper arrangements to help make things run smooth and remain organized. In the mean time, if you would like, please express any interest for setting up a goon custom gaming coalition and add any input you believe will help to make such a group function smoothly. Also, if you are interested, please join the Steam group found here:  Update! (11/7/2013) Users mannerup and sat. have generously given us the privilege of using their Mumble server to fulfill all our VOIP needs while playing WarCraft III together. The information is below: Server: bros.typefrag.com Port: 7675 If you do not have Mumble, you can download it off their website here. Mumble is a free VOIP used by gamers to communicate vocally. As things come together, look here and on the group page for more announcements and information. In the future, this section will be updated to list participating goons and how to contact them to get into the fold, as well as announcements for upcoming game nights and other pertinent information.  Well this sounds loving awesome. Only one problem: I don't have WarCraft III/I lost my CD key/some other lame excuse for not owning this gently caress-awesome game. What do I do? You can buy WarCraft III Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne at pretty much any retailer (even Walmart still sells it) or online on Blizzard's website. You can buy digital copies of the game individually here: Reign of Chaos The Frozen Throne Do I need to buy both? The honest answer is yes. While Reign of Chaos is great on its own, a lot of the custom games come from assets used in The Frozen Throne. Ergo, you must own The Frozen Throne to play it. The Frozen Throne is also amazing and it's only $10 extra (for a grand total of $20, which is like less than all the upgrades you've probably spent on this website), so you shouldn't be trying to avoid it anyway. I have my CD key, but my discs don't work. Do I have to buy the game again? No. You can log on to your Battle.net account and then download the installers. Then just input your CD key and you're good to go! I want to play custom games with my friends, but no one can join my game! What the hell! How do I host? Here is a simple guide on what ports you need to forward in order to host your own lobbies in WarCraft III. Arthas or Illidan? Arthas. If you have any additional questions, please ask. Myself or someone else will try to answer them to the best of our abilities. If there are any universally useful questions asked, they will be added to this F.A.Q.         Below are various websites and resources useful to your WarCraft III experience: Blizzard's website, where you can access your Battle.net account and purchase WarCraft III. The Hive Workshop, where you can find custom games as well as discuss the World Editor and find tutorials on using it. Epic War, an all-purposes custom game depository. The official website for WarCraft III, which contains detailed information on all the basics of the game. If you have anything that you feel should be added to the OP, just let me know! It is a constant work-in-progress. And with that...  Let the WarCraft III megathread begin! Lok'tar ogar!
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This is one of my favorite games ever made and it would be sweet to get some goons playing mp together. I haven't played it in a long time, though. Does anyone know if the ladder is full of hacks and poo poo? Last I heard it was pretty bad but anecdotal evidence ...
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McSlaughter posted:With the addition of heroes, WarCraft III became much more about the macro rather than the micro, which was a drastic change in focus from StarCraft. However, as all good RTS players know, micromanagement was still incredibly important and being able to master both the macro- and micromanagement was quintessential in being a skilled participant in competitive play. Still, this thread rules, you rule and WC3:TFT rules.
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Warcraft III is my favorite RTS of all time. It holds a special place in my heart because the most ridiculous, retarded ideas you could possibly imagine were actually dominant winning strategies over the course of the game's crazy balance history. Mass ancients, towering, mass summons, staff swapping, invisimortar -- basically if you can think of a build that sounds incredibly gimmicky and stupid, then it was probably at one point The Thing to Do for a particular matchup. Also, and I think we can all agree here, gently caress Undead forever.
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loving well done OP, truly a great read. Bout time we get a Warcraft 3 Thread!dichloroisocyanuric posted:This is one of my favorite games ever made and it would be sweet to get some goons playing mp together. I haven't played it in a long time, though. Does anyone know if the ladder is full of hacks and poo poo? Last I heard it was pretty bad but anecdotal evidence ... exquisite tea posted:Also, and I think we can all agree here, gently caress Undead forever.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:I don't think you know what micro and macro are. I'm glad you guys are all liking the thread, though! I was really surprised there was no thread already.
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McSlaughter posted:I think I stated somewhere in the thread that I'm pretty fuzzy on a lot of the concepts that deal with that sort of thing, but I think in this case I just got the two mixed around or something like that. I'll go back and edit that passage to try to make it make a little more sense. It's actually the other way around. Warcraft 3 is mostly micro focused (Heroes getting experience, upkeep costs and a bunch of other design choices) while Starcraft is much more focused on macro.
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Baron FU posted:It's actually the other way around. Warcraft 3 is mostly micro focused (Heroes getting experience, upkeep costs and a bunch of other design choices) while Starcraft is much more focused on macro. That's what I thought! I know that of course both forms of management are important, I guess I just got them switched around when talking about which one was more important as I was blazing through writing this monster of an OP. Thank you for that.
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Parasite, Tower Defense, Uther Party and (of course) DotA was my poo poo back in the day! Murder in Sleepytown was amazingly well produced as well. Gotta re-download WC3 now
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I'm the loving KING of sheep tag and FF before they had stupid loving rules about no teching players in a team and poo poo. now i want to play both of these games lets make this happen sometime please, thanks
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Jowj posted:I'm the loving KING of sheep tag and FF before they had stupid loving rules about no teching players in a team and poo poo. now i want to play both of these games lets make this happen sometime please, thanks What would be cool would be a sheep tag where you switch sides between multiple rounds L4D-style, and where there was a victory condition the sheep could hit to end the game faster if they were tremendously ahead (e.g. a "victory tower" that's really big, expensive, and fragile).
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Cicero posted:Sheep Tag is easily my favorite UMS in any Blizzard game, but the main problem with it is that being a sheep is way more fun than being a wolf and nobody ever wanted to be a wolf. Oh and games tended to either be over in 2 minutes if the wolves were actually competent, or they took an eternity with idiot wolves never having a chance. Yeah I agree. And actually if wolves were as good as sheep it was still a lot of fun with Daring Rescues and hilarious building glitches from unexpected angles to jump walls and stuff. I do think switching sides between multiple rounds + a vic tower would be a variant I would play. If you make it I will play with you regularly and get my brother in on it to. My younger brother got me into wc3 and customs and we played in a loving sheeptag clan.
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Jowj posted:Yeah I agree. And actually if wolves were as good as sheep it was still a lot of fun with Daring Rescues and hilarious building glitches from unexpected angles to jump walls and stuff. http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/sheep-tag-revival/ Does anyone have any experience with these sites selling discounted copies of WC3? Should I just pay 4 dollars more and buy it off battle.net? I am not sure why my account only has TFT attached to it.
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Something important to note- the "Custom Gaming Goons" banner is actually a link to the steam group that's starting us off in our magical adventure to custom bliss.
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Sure would be nice to play stuff like Enfo's and stuff again since most of the custom games on WC3 right now are just bots and never get filled.
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Stay Out of FYAD posted:"Hacks and poo poo?" The only thing some people do is maphack. This doesn't really matter in team games so much as it does 1v1, but yeah it still sucks. Regardless, ladder games are still pretty drat popular. Also drophacks? But yeah, fair enough. Oh well, the game is over a decade old. Maybe I'll bust it out and start doing some ladder. I wish Enfos were ported over to Diablo 3.
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This looks good. If this map isn't locked I just had an idea for a mode you could play with friends: just have one dude control all the wolves. Then only one guy has to suffer, so to speak, plus it makes being a wolf more interesting and reduces the total number of players you need for a viable game.
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Nov 2, 2013 18:50
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You used to be able to open the cached copy of the map in an mpq editor, have they changed it?
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Nov 2, 2013 19:51
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OP is not complete without a link to highper.ch
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Nov 2, 2013 19:57
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Wasn't there another page with perch screenshots in action? Is there a clan towa anymore?
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Oh god GoE in the OP brings me back. I was so awful at it but god drat it was fun, and the makers were really loving into it. They were both the oddest and nicest people I'd ever met. Also there was a AoS-type map in RoC that was fuckin' amazing and I was sad it never got ported/updated when TFT came out. It was like, Von's or something I don't remember. I feel like a teenager again just reading this thread. I want to play Enfo's again, and HAE, and Dark Deeds, and there was a vampire-related map that a friend made that had you killing villagers for souls or something and summoning undead to attack the town in the center while the vampire hunters tried to kill them.
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Nov 2, 2013 20:05
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dichloroisocyanuric posted:Also drophacks? But yeah, fair enough. Oh well, the game is over a decade old. Maybe I'll bust it out and start doing some ladder. there was a lot of drophackers like a year - year and a half ago, but they seem to be mostly gone now. europe ladder is not really too bad hacker-wise, but i don't know what's going on on us ladders. but (solo-) games are easy to find, and hackers are not a big deal, so by all means do some laddering
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Nov 2, 2013 20:09
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Tsurupettan posted:I feel like a teenager again just reading this thread. I want to play Enfo's again, and HAE, and Dark Deeds, and there was a vampire-related map that a friend made that had you killing villagers for souls or something and summoning undead to attack the town in the center while the vampire hunters tried to kill them. That would be The Eleventh Vampire! That map kicked serious rear end. If any of you are interested, I'd like to direct you again to the Steam group in the OP. Once I'm back at home tomorrow I'll schedule a game night and get us all the other necessary things. If there are any particular maps you'd be interested in playing, just let me know and I'll look into it. We'll definitely be playing some of the more standard stuff (like Dark Deeds, a personal favorite) and whatever else we can think of. And here's the Steam group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/wc3goons
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Nov 3, 2013 00:21
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I remember playing enormous Lord of the Rings maps for hours as a kid. I wish that features like a day-night cycle and creeps had caught on in more RTSs. Or that Blizzard would ever make a Warcraft IV, although that's never going to happen.
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Nov 3, 2013 04:14
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For you custom game players out there, here's a rather unknown, but very simple and IMO well-balanced hero arena: http://www.zauron.net/AHAX/index.php . I might actually install TFT again if people are actually planning to do customs.
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Nov 3, 2013 09:53
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i love me some warcraft 3! hell yeah! a few things about the current state of war3 (maybe later i'll make a more concise post): 1) everybody maphacks at this point. nobody on blizzard's end gives a poo poo about the game and there probably haven't been any bans since at least 2011. drophacks also are common but you'll only get that maybe once every 10-15 games. 2) it's nearly impossible to find a game of 3v3 or 4v4 AT unless you search on northrend during the morning or early afternoon east coast time. 2v2 you can find on northrend or azeroth very easily, but it's a really boring gametype. RT and solo you can probably find anywhere, FFA is a dead game type (nothing new here). 3) war3 custom games are still way better than sc2, although sc2 has tron bikes and soccer is pretty tight. it's just really really hard to get a game going because if you host something, you're going up against bots and all that poo poo. i've had success playing sheeps vs creeps lately but no luck with enfos as of yet
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Nov 3, 2013 15:54
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Warcraft 3 was awesome and I always kind of hate WOW for making GBS threads all over the world and characters. That being said I loved the custom games. Tower Defense? gently caress yeah. I also remember that ONE perfect game I got where I actually found like 4 other non-retards to play that hero-only map that was basically like a funner Diablo. You definitely can't solo that poo poo and people would give up after 5 minutes so finding the perfect team was hard. Oh yeah, that reminds me. Rexxar's missions were the poo poo too.
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Nov 3, 2013 18:12
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Does anyone remember the DBZ map? Also, tried to come back to SC2 to see how far the custom maps have come, and a lot of them are total rear end compared to even SC1, let alone WC3.. the new Battle.net seems horrible.
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Nov 3, 2013 19:31
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Interstellar Owl posted:Does anyone remember the DBZ map? Also, tried to come back to SC2 to see how far the custom maps have come, and a lot of them are total rear end compared to even SC1, let alone WC3.. the new Battle.net seems horrible. Haha yeah, I sometimes still pop on to play that map. It's just nice silly fun, even if nowadays there's the two people that know it 100% and how to make you lose in ten minutes or less.
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Nov 4, 2013 00:17
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I'm in if you guys want to play some motherfucking Sheep Tag or Wintermaul 
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Nov 4, 2013 07:20
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McSlaughter posted:That would be The Eleventh Vampire! That map kicked serious rear end. If any of you are interested, I'd like to direct you again to the Steam group in the OP. Once I'm back at home tomorrow I'll schedule a game night and get us all the other necessary things. If there are any particular maps you'd be interested in playing, just let me know and I'll look into it. We'll definitely be playing some of the more standard stuff (like Dark Deeds, a personal favorite) and whatever else we can think of. It's actually probably FMVH, Force Majeure Vampire Hunters. And it loving owned. Tsurupettan posted:I feel like a teenager again just reading this thread. I want to play Enfo's again, and HAE, and Dark Deeds, and there was a vampire-related map that a friend made that had you killing villagers for souls or something and summoning undead to attack the town in the center while the vampire hunters tried to kill them. Was one of the UD heroes a giant 2k+ hit point Abomination? Or an acolyte with immolation and 80+% evasion?
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Nov 4, 2013 14:33
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I makes me happy that people still make maps for this game. They may not be to most peoples tastes but some of the newer maps are pretty decent, especially considering how old the game is. Whilst not necessarily the pinnacle of map making, I do enjoy Glory of the Horde for the alt-hist feel, even if nowadays I'm sick of it and havnt touched the newer map set in the same universe.
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Nov 4, 2013 21:11
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There seems to be a lot of people interested in Warcraft 3 customs in this thread. We should try to set up an event to play custom map roulette to play the best (and the other 95% of mediocre at best) maps. It's been years since I've played custom maps with a dozen people. Could be fun.
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Nov 4, 2013 22:18
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It might be because this is my favorite game in the world but I feel like it's aged pretty well. I still think WC3 battle.net is better than SC2.mannerup posted:There seems to be a lot of people interested in Warcraft 3 customs in this thread. We should try to set up an event to play custom map roulette to play the best (and the other 95% of mediocre at best) maps. I'm down for this. Dibs on hosting Don't Move Your Tauren.
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Nov 4, 2013 22:24
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I'll be organizing a game night very soon. Keep suggesting maps (and provide download links if you can find them, otherwise I'll try to get them) and what not and I'll post some info probably tonight or tomorrow. (Also join the Steam group.)
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Nov 4, 2013 23:24
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mannerup posted:There seems to be a lot of people interested in Warcraft 3 customs in this thread. We should try to set up an event to play custom map roulette to play the best (and the other 95% of mediocre at best) maps. It'd help if people joined the steam group and sat in chat. That would help. I think WC3 aged very hard, because of the mass amount of bots and the fact no one plays em anymore.
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Nov 4, 2013 23:39
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sat. posted:It might be because this is my favorite game in the world but I feel like it's aged pretty well. I still think WC3 battle.net is better than SC2. This game wasn't as well balanced as SC1, but that's probably due to blizz being a bunch of money hungry assholes. e: It's still a really goddamn pretty well balanced RTS at the competitive scene, though I do think humans are too loving flexible.
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Amazing OP, I'm so down for some of the LotR custom maps, and some goddamn tree tag.
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Nov 5, 2013 01:08
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RIP ZEEZ