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Too bad I missed the voting but no problem. This takes me back because my first (of many) playthroughs was male Venture. This should be fun. A gatz LP with lots of oWoD infodumps.  Vicissitude posted:New York, for instance, was under Sabbat control for a very, very long time. Wasn't Mexico City a big Sabbat hangout in one of the sourcebooks? You'd think the hidden world wouldn't stay hidden for long with those lunatics running the asylum.
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800x600 will be less likely to break my tables when phone browsing.Feinne posted:The Sabbat tend not to leave any witnesses is the thing. Mounds of corpses yes, but nobody who can actually say 'gently caress, a vampire'. I completely failed to consider this!
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Diablerie is a capital crime amongst the Camarilla. Now the Sabbat on the other hand! You can also share a vampire's blood between a few diablerists if you want to boost your chances of subduing them, but I believe they must be 2 generations above everyone for there to be a level gain. Also, there are stories of an impatient higher generation newbie skipping too many generations down (i.e. 13th to 9th). A little after that the diablerist started having episodes where they'd display the mannerisms and personality of the victim... DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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I'm really leaning towards the blessed low-gen childe trying to do it their way too soon and getting dusted after siring the PC theory. It's the only thing that makes sense... besides the fact that it's a MacGuffin and we should just accept it because it has to happen for the game to happen without too much restrictive baggage. But then we'd be missing the point of posting in a gatz/WoD LP.MJ12 posted:Really, in the end all of them are a bit about how idealism gets crushed by cynicism and the need to take the 'easy way' outweighs your moral code, and you slowly keep doing it until you become a monster like what you tried to fight. It's most explicit in Mage, but even in Vampire. Most vampires, I figure, weren't incredibly bad people in life. Just normal, regular people, maybe with some uncomfortable secrets, who got turned into monsters and tried to make the best of it. And this is what you end up getting. Also, this is why I thought Vampire needed a handful of Not Awful elders occasionally (although it might have had that). Having a few people who have managed to keep that nobility makes the fall of the rest even more horrific, because it wasn't inevitable. Borderlands kept reminding me of Vampire and now I know why. e: spoilers for BL2 in the link DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 10:43 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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The Colt .38 is good for taking out the zed trash but I always loved stealth killing vamps and draining humans because it was so drat reliable. For the Steyr AUG and auto-shotty just rock til they drop. Those came in handy in a frustrating late game mandatory combat segment that had some long halls. Also if you hack your stats at the start of the game Jack has hidden dialogue where he calls you a cheater.
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EphemeralToast posted:Homeless people's blood isn't as satisfying as other people's? What the actual christ Pretty sure it's been said but Ventrue are just snooty. Other clans don't have this problem.
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At least in Bloodlines, there's no humanity loss if you kill in self-defense, no matter how you do it. So be a paladin seeking out evil wherever you can find it? Shouldn't be hard in WoD.Feinne posted:I'm pretty sure one option is that he basically decides there's no real hope of actually coming back and he calls them all to mass suicide, and in another he shows up and is like 'yeah you all suck fyi' and again most of them die. He turns into a invulnerable snake and starts swallowing vampires whole. And everyone's locked in for the summoning ceremony. Hilariously, the GM is completely encouraged to party wipe if the PCs had really, honestly dedicated themselves to Set and belieeeeved in the whole kumbayah act from an Antediluvian.
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Huh, so that's what it looks like when you don't massacre everyone in the Astrolite house. Send Copper after LaCroix. The music in this game is really, really good at setting the tone. It's up there with Thief and Hitman's soundtracks. It's also inspired some decent (depending how into goth/industrial you are) music replacement mods. There's minor location spoilers if anyone in this thread has actually never played this game, in which case what the hell's wrong with you? http://www.moddb.com/mods/vtmb-music-mod/downloads/vtmb-music-mod-10 http://www.moddb.com/mods/gabriel-onuris/downloads/collide-soundtrack-mod
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Feinne posted:does someone have that image, because it's pretty hilarious Oh hell to the yes.  Also the more you ignore nWoD the better (because VtM:B doesn't happen in it, therefore it is not the best). I think Zack Parsons or someone else on the frontpage said the biggest sign of the new WoD's failure is that it didn't become a bestseller ever since Twilight came out.
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Barf Wight posted:Seeing as he mentioned Hitman, he probably agrees I do agree! You could put this in VTMB and you'd never know the difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEDpqbvvi2U TheMcD posted:Weakness: Horrible parenting skills? You just know some player tried specifically engineering a character that would somehow be able to take advantage of that weakness, just so they could be able to say they somehow "won" against Caine, at least as far as the rules will allow. I never DMed a White Wolf game, but now I wish I had because it'd be killing time for mopey vamps and players who think they are just too clever. I ran a Star Wars game with the new Fantasy Flight book a few months back. I almost party wiped my players with Stormtroopers after they joked about their aiming skills. Next time they got attacked by bandits looking for easy money they freaked out and went all out tactical on their asses. They thought I was trying to kill them again. So my approach has comedic merit at least! DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Nov 23, 2013 |
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I think I used Tessmage's True patch then switched over to WESP's bare bones version once he cut out his stupid worthless fanon. The VTMB games thread has delicious drama scoops buried in past posts and I'm too lazy to find them.wiegieman posted:Yeah, celerity is basically The Matrix source game that never was. So I can have Max Payne slo-mo in VTMB? I always moused over Celerity and figured it was too good to be true. Glad to hear otherwise though because I think my next playthrough will be Toreador. I usually went melee or mixed for most of the time then shooty for the end-game. Time for more dakka. 
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gatz posted:Sounds like that's what I'll do from now on. Good idea about shorter updates allowing more discussion - I was kind of disappointed that there was little to no discussion about many things that happened in part 4. I guess that's what happens when there's so much going on. Well, let's see what I can do! Mercurio, arms dealer, although I never bothered to find him and visit in-game. What am I missing out on? Also a warehouse full of armed goons--just another day in LA, nothing to worry about. Definitely still Act 1 material. Tung. It's a totally artificial gaming setup. Forget about Rolf's car. Of course there's some big drama happening right as you're turned. Naturally the solution is to send in the newbie that everyone respects! Nobody will be bitter that some That diner is the most noir thing ever... I like to pretend people are willing to give you personal effects or ask you to track down someone else because they a) think you're a total sop and can be argued into doing their chores (if MMOs are any indication, they're right!) and b) I mentally like to pretend there's some deeper flavor dialogue where you convincingly pass yourself off as an acquaintance of the missing party, just like I like to pretend not every human reverted to anarcho-primitivism at the end of the reimagined BSG series! Revealing who you are to your new thrall right away is pretty hilarious if you are doing a low humanity run. Ever massacred an entire hospital and SWAT team? It's so cinematic! E's disposition towards you is either random or bugged, and I have no idea if you're using the same patch I did (and I used multiple patches through my history with this game). Probably bugged, knowing what we're dealing with. My only regret is the we're never able to brutally murder the creepy ghoul selling blood. He's so annoying. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Dec 3, 2013 |
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But I thought we meet/let ourselves get captured by the Technocracy in Chinatown and that one jerk tries to experiment on us? TBF they don't go into detail and I think that's it for this game.
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TheMcD posted:If I remember correctly, it was somebody entirely unrelated, or at least I missed some sort of material. The character in question is called the Mandarin, which implies a connection with the Asian vampires to some degree, but that's about it. However, in one of his experiments, he sicks hunters on you, although I believe they're just hunters, not specifically ones from the Society. Yeah, you're right it's a pretty generic group. I just assumed they were a stand-in for another WW line. Also this got posted in the games thread but it's slipped a few pages back so just check this link out. Amazing if they actually pull it off. http://planet-vampire.net/forum/index.php?topic=6314.0 OTOH perennial fan favorite Wesp is involved!  I read recently that with the Plus patch in the late-game you can turn your ghoul into a vampire and avoid her story death. I mean, is that even how it works in the source books?
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Oh hey, 80 new posts! Must be one hell of an upda--  I shouldn't have expected anything else. Realchat gatz, I love your wacky, wacky off-topic threads so very much.
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Tehan posted:Much as I miss oWoD, it's demise was baked into the setting from the start and kudos to WW for following through on it instead of chickening out. Pretty sure I read an interview with one of the designers after the fact that they also think secret creatures held up to then up and coming social media and uploaded video. I don't know how they got around that with nWoD if they bothered to address it at all. I haven't touched itwith a twenty foot pole... or severed arm. Hard to believe it's been out for almost ten years now, although it says something that the new CCP MMO is based on oWoD. Romeo Charlie posted:So... Is it too early to start the "Should we have sex with Jeanette?" vote? Obviously. 
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In all my playthroughs I don't think I've ever run into Knox! Clinic, please.Tehan posted:But of course Jack is five stars He probably hacked and boosted his stats at character creation. 
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1) The bulldozer zooming at the trailer as soon as you grab the key gets me into the right paranoid mindset every time. Can you actually pick that lock or is it impossible? I never tried. 2) That Goldfrapp song is in the original game. 3) In the pendant room, the floor is destroyed in the real world but not in the "remembered" Goldfrapp music version. You walk across the room and the illusion fades after you get the pendant. Looks like you walked across thin air in the real world. Maybe a side trip into the Umbra?
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gatz posted:Does anyone else want to see this? Humanity is for losers. Do it.
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Make peace. Anyway, I never thought Anarchs were anarchists. Or at least not peaceful anarchists. Might makes right and a Baron's got a whole lotta rights. It's hard to pick out the most noir-ish part of this game, but the diner shootout sticks out to me. I walked in, stared at this out of place group of tough guys, walked away uneasy in the silence... then a few seconds later was ducking behind the counter and sending bullets back their way.
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Shugojin posted:Don't forget the moron who thought "Tzimisce? THE Tzimisce? Let's just get my diablerie on here  Sometimes you deserve everything that happens to you. Not that someone who was supposed to be very, very smart didn't get into a similar situation in the fourth Gehenna scenario.
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TheMcD posted:Later, he then presented me with something I thought would lead to me getting hosed, so I went against it. I was wrong. So wrong. Oopsie.  Full-on engaging the Oracle as a Malk is a wonderful bunch of spoilers-in-hindsight and crazy talk.
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I wouldn't actually mind the anarchist segments but I think I recall gatz saying earlier in this thread that he/she/it holds anarcho-something beliefs. I like the history of anarchist philosophers and seems to tie well with the idea of immortal creatures who were around back in that time. But knowing it's gatz's personal belief makes me uneasy waiting for the off-topic anarchy effortpost when we get to that one downtown bar. Most goons can't restrain themselves. Don't be that guy, gatz. Please. It's interesting in short bursts. Captain Oblivious posted:This seems a little unnecessarily hostile. You're talking about LeJackal, who is apparently a socialist gay NRA-card carrying sewer worker. It comes with the territory until the mods get tired of him and probate him for a day/week/month again. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jan 22, 2014 |
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Rockopolis posted:Upon further reflection, the thing about Anarchism in Vampire, is that it seems that it's like an even grimmer, more hopeless version of the normal thing (which is kind if the World of Darkness' thing, to be fair), in that not only is the establishment rich, powerful, and controlling the status quo, they're also undead vampire wizards. It's fun to bring up the anarchism in the games just to mock the Atlanta club kiddies' idea of it, because that's who created White Wolf. Critiquing it and seeing how much was truly a grimdark interpretation or a "AHRGHG NO RULES" understanding of it is fair game. It's probably 50/50. It's easy to give WW too little credit after you've facepalmed your way through a Mummy book. gatz posted:I admit that most of the anarchism talk in the last update was not necessary, but it's one of the few things I can do to make the LP unique. I mean, most everyone in the thread seems to have already played Bloodlines, so just giving a straight-up playthrough of the game adds nothing of value for most of my readers. It's all good so far IMHO. I just didn't want to read an anarchist version of a John Galt speech in an update. What you've got planned sounds good. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jan 23, 2014 |
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Our "relationship" with Heather isn't as creepy as it could be. I don't know what Troika or :wesp: did about her assets, but you should show the thread what the other clothing options are. Definite basement dweller territory. Pisha is interesting but it's one of the more poorly built quests in a game that usually gives you multiple options. You can either silence the last witness and get a chance to get some powerful artifacts or get ready to fight infinite zombies, sweetheart. It's not a morally or practically gray choice either. Send a completely unlikable one note character to his early grave and preserve the masquerade orrrr don't. Tiggum posted:I've always hated the taxi dialogue in this game. Why are there no options that aren't rude? Why even have a dialogue option here? Why not just jump straight to the map screen. If you didn't want to go anywhere you could just click on the place you already are. Funny, I was about to say the speech options to the taxi driver are some of the most noir-ish things in the game. It's the little details.
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Vicissitude posted:Talk him down! The conversation is great once you turn it back around on him. Voting for this. Everyone think about your votes? Do you want the one dialogue line of easy button or the zany and hi-larious Troika writing on full display?
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GrimRevenant posted:e: Regardless of which one wins, maybe we could just get the other as an extra? Changing my vote to this. The work we ask of you, gatz.
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gatz posted:I'll show off all 3, but the ~~canon~~ choice will be to dominate McFly.  Y'know, I get the sense that someone who spends 10 years modding a vampire RPG isn't all there mentally. Never mind how OOC that is for the daughters of Janus.
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No way, with the exception of the fortunately optional graveyard zombie shootout Hollywood really soaks in the grungy side of WOD and it owns bones.quote:DeusExMachinima called it basement-dweller level stuff. You'll just have to see for yourself. Right, so I looked the alt costumes up to make sure my memory was correct. The goth get up is normal actually. [spoiler picture] ridiculously exaggerates her assets, even more than how it is already. Or that might just be :wesp: who also in the latest plus patch lets you in the endgame nope nope nope In my quick search for a comparison of Heather's costumes I also ran across people trying to port the entire female cast into the Sims, a mod that lets you embrace women off the street and put them into a Bioware-style combat party with the PC, and a mod that lets you gather all the fem vamps in the game at a "spa haven". Kill me. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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Hm, the fine gaming pros at vtmb.wikia.whatever might've lied to me then. [There were spoilers here, but they're gone now.] (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tyrone Biggums posted:Welp, now I know why everybody hates those sewers. Is there a mod or something out there that makes that section more enjoyable, or at least less awful to go through? Celerity
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IMJack posted:That encounter is the start and end to it. If you can't talk her out of it, or Dominate or Dementate her, she moseys toward a pay phone and makes a call, and then you get hit with a Masquerade violation. You have a chance to kill her, feed on her, or stun her with a power before she gets to the phone. Stunning her is enough to prevent the violation but she tends to stand there like a dope for the rest of the game. I've never failed or frenzied that encounter. Pretty sure if you're a fishmalk you can convince her you're her pet turtle to pass the check. Which is funny, because you'd think she'd try to bring you home then and cause an even bigger violation. Something for Wesp maybe. At any rate, the graveyard shoot em up is easily worse than than that... other part and I don't know why it doesn't get the rage it deserves. Probably because it's optional.
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