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brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Pornographic Memory posted:

The US actually did land troops in China to oversee the surrender of Japanese troops there and turn over the territory, plus significant amounts of supplies, to the Nationalists when they left IIRC.

Are there any good sources on the American presence in China in the immediate postwar period? My knowledge on the subject is pretty much nil.

EDIT: Actually, can anybody recommend a good book on the Chinese Civil War in general?

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brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

space pope posted:

I recommend pyongyang too. I also saw a movie about US deserters during the Korean war I think it was called crossing the line? It might even be on netflix streaming

Crossing the Line is correct! Also seconding the recommendations of Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader, Aquariums of Pyongyang, and Nothing to Envy. I noticed The Orphan Master's Son was mentioned... I haven't read it, but my roommate has and he thought it was fantastic.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
Since the Momsen lung has been mentioned a few times, I recommend reading The Terrible Hours by Peter Maas. It's popular history so it's probably not the best book about submarine rescue and salvage operations, but it's nonetheless a very entertaining and interesting read.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Ensign Expendable posted:

Things not to read:
Death Traps, or anything associated with Belton Cooper, including History Channel shows.

What's the issue? I've seen Cooper's Death Traps recommended here a few times.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
Seeing Fury recently brought this to mind: tank hatches can lock from the inside, right? Seems like a pretty obvious defense against some guy tossing a few grenades into the hull.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
Why were American tank destroyers designed with an open turret? Less weight, more speed? Easier to spot targets?

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

JcDent posted:

Any other talk about Cold War tanks/Soviet tech? I do love me some stories about it :allears:

Plus, anyone got a link to that Cold War aviation thread? I really loved the "RCS secret" banner add they had.

Here you go friend

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

JcDent posted:

2. I can't find a link, but one guy had an article where he stated that soviet doctrine really helped him in wargames and that said doctrine was "plan axis of attack, launch massive artillery barrages on likely targets, rush the axis-es, if any of the axises get bogged down in fighting, switch troop to another one, etc".

In an unrelated note, I would so play UAR in Flames of War Arab-Israeli supplement, but drat that's expensive.

Yep, that sounds like deep battle to me. I think there's some good posts about it in this thread or the old one.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

The Australians made their own submachine gun with a top-mounted magazine. It's a skinny looking thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmAigxjQbtE

How do you accurately aim that gun? It looks like the magazine is sitting in between the sights.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Cythereal posted:

Finished Shattered Sword after about ten hours, skipping most of the appendices, and it was a pretty enjoyable read. I had been under the impression that the Japanese took a lot more losses than four carriers and a heavy cruiser, but evidently not.

I recommend reading the appendix about the planned amphibious assault of Midway. It's pretty :stonk:

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Disinterested posted:

What military history related poo poo did everyone get for Christmas, then?

I got When Titans Clashed by David Glantz and Jonathan House.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

ArchangeI posted:

We should really compile a goon recommended reading list.

There's a milhist goons Goodreads group that was created earlier this year, but it almost immediately went inactive :v:

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Koesj posted:

Link it!

http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/133084-goons-and-their-military-history

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
backtracking to alternate history, I liked the What If? series edited by Robert Cowley. They've got some big name contributors like Anthony Beevor, James McPherson, and Alistair Horne.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

I remember seeing some of these around the library. Go Mean Green!!

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

jadebullet posted:

So I have become interested in the Korean war as of late an was wondering if anyone had any recommendations of books on the war, particularly memiors though regular historical accounts are fine too.

I like This Kind of War by Fehrenbach. It's dated, but I enjoyed it a lot.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

Salonika is like the upside outcome of a combined Italian-French naval invasion on the Adriatic.

So what was so disastrous about Salonika? I'm not particularly familiar with the Macedonian Front.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

hard counter posted:

Any tips for reading On War? It's my understanding that the text's conclusions are often delivered in a ... roundabout way.

I haven't finished it yet, but I would track down a good translation (assuming you're reading it in English). That's what has helped me the most. I made one previous attempt at On War and couldn't get past the introduction because of the ancient translation. The edition edited and translated by Paret and Howard seems to be pretty good in my opinion. Much easier to read than one of the other translations from the late nineteenth or early twentieth centuries.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Mojo Threepwood posted:

I had a question regarding the "abandonment" of Poland by France and England in 1940. A person was arguing that France and England were obligated to smash Germany in the West when they invaded Poland, and that their failure to do so was a breach of their treaty. (From Reddit: (I know, I'm sorry): https://np.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/2fjgyv/with_headquarters_in_poland_the_united_kingdom/cka0p6t?context=3)

Is this person right that England and France really could have gone on the offensive and knocked out Germany early? If so, was it ever seriously considered? What was the England/France plan for beating Germany in 1940? Wait for an invasion of France, kill enough guys, let then sue for peace?

There was an exceedingly brief offensive undertaken by France into the Saarland in September 1939 that was called off for, well, reasons.

Anybody in the thread well versed in the Phoney War? I have the toughest time wrapping my head around it.

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
I'm reading A People's History of Sports in the United States by Dave Zirin, and there's a tiny military history component to the book. It's written in the mold of Howard Zinn, and Zirin briefly covers American mutinies and fragging during the Vietnam War. While I'm familiar with the topic, it's only on the most superficial level. Can anyone recommend some good books on soldiers' disobedience during the war?

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

AceRimmer posted:

There's quite a bit more to it than that.
Already posted, but watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6xLMUifbxQ starting at about 26 minutes.

I was surprised to see my old professor give the presentation on the Battle of Kursk. Well, not that surprised since German military history is his bread and butter.

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Other than containing the capital Anatolia was a not particularly important part of a much larger dynastic empire lead by people who were not Turks and did not speak Turkish. This does not stop modern Turkey from hearkening back to great days of courageous deeds and etc, etc. As to why they get so worked up about the Armenian Genocide, imagine how people in England might react if you decided to get really honest about Richard the Lionheart and his status as a French king who only incidentally ruled England as the most backwards and worthless of his many possessions and was a baby-murdering crusader dickbag to boot.

Wait, so who were the Ottoman sultans then?

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Kanine posted:

Hey, what are some of your favorite paintings/artistic depictions of some of your favorite battles and other military historical events?

I've always been partial to these two:


Kursk


Rocroi

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
Reaching back to cool historical artwork

brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.

Dejan Bimble posted:

This went uncommented 'pon many many pages ago, but I would like to add that the trench warfare stalemate was broken by Ethiopia employing a ww2 style large scale armored pincer action to cut off Eritrea's trench line. It was very cool stuff.

Can you provide any additional comments on the conflict? I've always been interested in Ethiopian history, but that particular war is a bit of a blank spot for me.

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brozozo
Apr 27, 2007

Conclusion: Dinosaurs.
The Texas Military Forces Museum at Camp Mabry in Austin have this Australian Sentinel on loan. Unfortunately, it's leaving tomorrow.





If you're in Austin, check out the museum. It's a good place to kill an hour or two.

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