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Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

LvK posted:

Speaking of strong style...


Fuuuck. I missed this. If you're still reading and curious, it's hard to go wrong with:
-Vs. Andre in '74 or '77. '74 in particular is sweet.
-Vs. Vader in '96
-With Seiji Sakaguchi vs. Karl Gotch and Lou Thesz
-Vs. Tatsumi Fujinami in '85
-vs. Stan Hansen in 1980 (sorry forgot which one was which)
-vs. Backlund in '78


also, if you're interested in any of his proto shoot-style stuff, it's hard to go wrong with his series against Willem Ruska, and I enjoyed the "Left Hook" Dayton match. Individual dates elude me, but at least Lefthook Dayton only went against Inoki one time.

edit: oops poo poo that was meant to be an edit

I just noticed that Inoki looks like Inspector Zenigata

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LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!

Smoking Crow posted:

I just noticed that Inoki looks like Inspector Zenigata

Lupin gets away because pops is too busy slapping him in the chest to actually handcuff him

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Where do I start with good, recent (like last ten years) Trios tournaments? No Chikara though, I don't dislike it but I've seen all of it.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
So I'm late to the party, but I just saw Nakamura/Ibushi from WK9. I already like Swag like every other mark, but what are some good Kota Ibushi matches?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Forceholy posted:

So I'm late to the party, but I just saw Nakamura/Ibushi from WK9. I already like Swag like every other mark, but what are some good Kota Ibushi matches?

Ibushi vs Claudio/Cesaro from ROH is great, Ibushi vs Ishii was one of the best matches of 2014.

Jay 2K Winger
Oct 10, 2007

What are you looking for?

Forceholy posted:

So I'm late to the party, but I just saw Nakamura/Ibushi from WK9. I already like Swag like every other mark, but what are some good Kota Ibushi matches?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XesuznnHaA
Ibushi vs Generico vs Jigsaw vs Nick Jackson 4-way eliminator from Chikara a few years back.

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

Nakamura and Ibushi had another great match at the 2013 G1

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1351wi_kota-ibushi-vs-shinsuke-nakamura-njpw_sport

Daryl Surat
Apr 6, 2002

I don't care what you say about this post, but if anyone steps on my bunion, I'll kill them!

Jay 2K Winger posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XesuznnHaA
Ibushi vs Generico vs Jigsaw vs Nick Jackson 4-way eliminator from Chikara a few years back.

I don't follow the product closely enough to understand it, because that requires not just watching every show but reading everyone's in-character Twitter and checking the forum posts and Youtube channel etc, but as best as I can tell this match from 2009 is the last truly great Chikara match. I've long maintained that the exceptional Chikara matches seem to typically involve people from outside the company, such as Ibushi here or [insert notable King of Trios match here], and this is usually met with very angry responses from Chikara fans. When I ask "okay, well can you name me a great Chikara match since?" I then get no response. I remember thinking High Noon and Chikarasaurus Rex were decent, but even those shows are from like, three or four years ago.

So, here's the place to ask. What are the great Chikara matches from this decade that I should go check out? I'm not interested in angles or storyline payoffs.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I mean, is it THAT controversial a thing to say that the best Chikara matches come largely from outsiders? Chikara IS essentially a training school promotion, isn't it? They've produced a few breakout stars but for the most part they've got people in various stages of their training and development playing out Quack's crazy ideas. So yeah, I expect to see better wrestling when I watch a King of Trios that brings in a bunch of veteran, serious talent.

Like, NXT SHOULDN'T be as good as it is except that its filling up with these massively experienced veterans who just need "fine tuning" or are waiting for WWE to figure out just how to use them. But if it was a full promotion of trainees like Enzo, Mojo, Corbin, Bliss, and Charlotte it would be much more uneven.

hunnert car pileup
Oct 28, 2007

the first world was a mistake

Can someone recommend some Tommy End matches? I haven't seen much of him but enjoy watching him kick the gently caress out of dudes.

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
Can anyone recommend any Roddy Piper matches? The only one that I can recall is his match with Greg Valentine.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

mariooncrack posted:

Can anyone recommend any Roddy Piper matches? The only one that I can recall is his match with Greg Valentine.

vs Bret Hart at WM 8

vs Hulk Hogan at Halloween Havoc 97 if you want to see something really lovely.

vs Ric Flair from GAB 97 is shockingly good given how bad Piper was from the mid 90s on.

Dreamsicle
Oct 16, 2013

MassRafTer posted:

vs Ric Flair from GAB 97 is shockingly good given how bad Piper was from the mid 90s on.

Didn't he tag with Flair against the Outsiders at this event?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Dreamsicle posted:

Didn't he tag with Flair against the Outsiders at this event?

My mistake, the singles match is at Bash at the Beach 97.

apsouthern
May 24, 2007

Chain Gang Soldier

Fauxhawk Express posted:

Can someone recommend some Tommy End matches? I haven't seen much of him but enjoy watching him kick the gently caress out of dudes.

His work in Progress has been really fun

VS Eddie Dennis in the Progress World Cup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v84glJh5UkM

Also worth looking out for some Sumerian Death Squad matches and promos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxxhvic3p4

rovert
Jun 10, 2013

Fauxhawk Express posted:

Can someone recommend some Tommy End matches? I haven't seen much of him but enjoy watching him kick the gently caress out of dudes.

People raved about this match. Unfortunately it didn't do much for me. Probably need to rewatch it eventually:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA7039eoIyg

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


MassRafTer posted:

vs Bret Hart at WM 8
incidentally, this is also the correct answer if anyone was thinking "where do I start with great Brain / Gorilla commentary?"

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Daryl Surat posted:

I don't follow the product closely enough to understand it, because that requires not just watching every show but reading everyone's in-character Twitter and checking the forum posts and Youtube channel etc, but as best as I can tell this match from 2009 is the last truly great Chikara match. I've long maintained that the exceptional Chikara matches seem to typically involve people from outside the company, such as Ibushi here or [insert notable King of Trios match here], and this is usually met with very angry responses from Chikara fans. When I ask "okay, well can you name me a great Chikara match since?" I then get no response. I remember thinking High Noon and Chikarasaurus Rex were decent, but even those shows are from like, three or four years ago.

So, here's the place to ask. What are the great Chikara matches from this decade that I should go check out? I'm not interested in angles or storyline payoffs.

Every Trios show since is incredibly solid, including last year's, but what sticks out to me is the latter half of King of Trios 2012 Night 3. It was a great wave of matches that were all very different. First you had a comedy 8-man tag of Chikara and Japanese dudes, which is one of the all-time funniest matches they've done. Then Manami Toyota and Kaori Yoneyama vs. Commando Bolshoi and Tsubasa Kuragaki, which doesn't really count because none of them are Chikara, but whatever. Jigsaw vs. Tadasuke isn't anything mind-blowing, but it's still very good, especially for a Jigsaw match. Then the main event and tournament finals is Team ROH (Mike Bennett and the Young Bucks) vs. Spectral Envoy (UltraMantis, Hallowicked and Frightmare). There is some story stuff in there, but it's still the match of the weekend.

It's after that that Chikara's quality took a huge downturn.

Daryl Surat
Apr 6, 2002

I don't care what you say about this post, but if anyone steps on my bunion, I'll kill them!

Gavok posted:

Every Trios show since is incredibly solid, including last year's, but what sticks out to me is the latter half of King of Trios 2012 Night 3. It was a great wave of matches that were all very different. First you had a comedy 8-man tag of Chikara and Japanese dudes, which is one of the all-time funniest matches they've done. Then Manami Toyota and Kaori Yoneyama vs. Commando Bolshoi and Tsubasa Kuragaki, which doesn't really count because none of them are Chikara, but whatever. Jigsaw vs. Tadasuke isn't anything mind-blowing, but it's still very good, especially for a Jigsaw match. Then the main event and tournament finals is Team ROH (Mike Bennett and the Young Bucks) vs. Spectral Envoy (UltraMantis, Hallowicked and Frightmare). There is some story stuff in there, but it's still the match of the weekend.

It's after that that Chikara's quality took a huge downturn.

Thanks for the recommendations. I'd actually already seen them since I generally tried to always at least watch King of Trios despite being completely lost on everything else Chikara-related (especially now that you're not doing those 4L! posts)

Separate question: can anybody recommend me some Hayabusa matches? I've got those weird Tokyopop DVDs and saw his stuff in ECW, but I'm not sure if I've missed any of his great stuff.

Illinois Smith
Nov 15, 2003

Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?

Forceholy posted:

So I'm late to the party, but I just saw Nakamura/Ibushi from WK9. I already like Swag like every other mark, but what are some good Kota Ibushi matches?
Some serious DDT stuff:

Ibushi trying to take DDT's main belt off Sekimoto.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xeul77_ddt-dramatic-fantasia-273-ddt-ko-d_sport

Ibushi vs Generico. They had two other matches for the belt later that year but I can't find them anywhere, I think this was Ibushi's first match back from an injury.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqp6c1_05-kota-ibushi-vs-el-generico-ddt-05-04-12_sport

Daryl Surat posted:

Separate question: can anybody recommend me some Hayabusa matches? I've got those weird Tokyopop DVDs and saw his stuff in ECW, but I'm not sure if I've missed any of his great stuff.
Anything that involves Mike Awesome / Gladiator or Gannosuke. His match with TAKA was good too.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1g517_fmw-taka-michinoku-vs-hayabusa_sport

Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Apr 13, 2015

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

What are Jerry Lawler's best matches? I've only known him as a commentator

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Smoking Crow posted:

What are Jerry Lawler's best matches? I've only known him as a commentator

His best matches are unfortunately cut up or lost due to how Memphis TV was broadcast/archived. You can find some stuff. The following aren't matches but it is a series of videos chronicling part of the Lawler/Bockwinkel feud over the AWA title leading up to their $500 Dollars Per Punch match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL3LJMQmKpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmsHSzMIcLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUoVjxavJS0

Bockwinkel is really the star of the promos but you'll get a good feel for how great the Jerry Lawler comeback was.

You should be able to easily find Lawler vs Kerry Von Erich from AWA Superclash III, it's a great bloody brawl with a dumb finish.

Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee Losers Leaves Town was one of the biggest matches in Memphis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhkYYKPLdQA I can't find the episode that built up to this right now, it's fantastic.

There's great Lawler matches with Savage, Austin Idol and a pretty good one with I think Fujinami. It might have been Jumbo, I forget if he went to All Japan or New Japan.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
His matches with Terry Funk were god awful but worth if for the promos. MY EYE MY EYE!

He had a great Ladder match against the Miz of all people.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

I'm glad none of you said Lawler vs. the state of Tennessee

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!

MassRafTer posted:



There's great Lawler matches with Savage, Austin Idol and a pretty good one with I think Fujinami. It might have been Jumbo, I forget if he went to All Japan or New Japan.

He challenged Fujinami for the title. But I was curious and looked and, hey, he did a short AJPW tag run, too.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Smoking Crow posted:

I'm glad none of you said Lawler vs. the state of Tennessee

No contests aren't good matches.

The Duck of Death
Nov 19, 2009

Gonzo McFee posted:

His matches with Terry Funk were god awful

Bullshit. No DQ match is great.

http://youtu.be/YAWhhKdMt88

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

I don't really understand what the European style of wrestling is. What are some good matches that show it off? What distinguishes it from other styles?

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Smoking Crow posted:

I don't really understand what the European style of wrestling is. What are some good matches that show it off? What distinguishes it from other styles?

Round system.

This is really good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6YW9Xcp07s

Spermgod
Jan 8, 2012

pink wasn't even a thing why is t#RXT REVOLUTION~!
and i'm so fucking excited for #SCOOPS#SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS #SCOOPS#SCOOPS
:sludgepal:
he knows..
here ya go http://z11.invisionfree.com/wrestling_ko/index.php?showtopic=2555&st=0

jim breaks is the best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKmbPYlRx2g

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Smoking Crow posted:

I don't really understand what the European style of wrestling is. What are some good matches that show it off? What distinguishes it from other styles?

Stiffer, treated far more as a sport, submissions and counter submissions make up most the match. As a result even the later world of sport would have guys selling a punch like a chairshot.

Search World of Sport on Youtube and click on anything that doesn't feature Giant Haystacks or Big Daddy.

apsouthern
May 24, 2007

Chain Gang Soldier

Smoking Crow posted:

I don't really understand what the European style of wrestling is. What are some good matches that show it off? What distinguishes it from other styles?

Two of my favourite World of Sport matches, although for very different reasons.

Dynamite Kid vs Rollerball Rocco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlNFLJGVI0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_IGTdehk9o

Les Kellett vs Leon Arras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_zPH3u65H8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmQVNxKF940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMh--WcGhiU

duyarvish
Feb 7, 2015
I've watched a little bit of random DDT matches but never really looked deeper, where should I go next?

RealFoxy
May 11, 2011

I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

duyarvish posted:

I've watched a little bit of random DDT matches but never really looked deeper, where should I go next?
The Daisuke Sekimoto title run
Yoshihiko vs anyone
"Anywhere" matches (Campsite Pro Wrestling, Amusement Park Pro Wrestling, Construction Site Pro Wrestling -- I don't have a list of these matches but there's a lot of them)
The "King of DDT" Tournaments every year
DDT Ryogoku Peter Pan every year (Basically their Wrestlemania)
DDT/BJW/K-Dojo New Year's Specials

The Bread-Eating Deathmatch from their little-sister promotion

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

duyarvish posted:

I've watched a little bit of random DDT matches but never really looked deeper, where should I go next?

They have a big show at sumo hall coming up that could be a great launch pad. I generally watch whatever winds up on dailymotion free of context or translation which can be daunting at times

Thauros
Jan 29, 2003

oatgan posted:

They have a big show at sumo hall coming up that could be a great launch pad. I generally watch whatever winds up on dailymotion free of context or translation which can be daunting at times

Yeah, I'll show the Peter Pan show in PSP.tv like I did last year, but while I like them I find it difficult to follow them outside of that.

Illinois Smith
Nov 15, 2003

Ninety-one? There are ninety other "Tiger Drivers"? Do any involve actual tigers, or driving?
Samurai TV is appearantly starting a service similar to NJPW World (about 15 bucks monthly for all the major Japanese promotions besides maybe DG) and DDT is on that. So following them is gonna get real easy soon.

http://enuhito.com/eng/?p=47

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

I showed my 9 year old stepsister NXT and she loved the women's matches, but quit caring once men came on. What are some good women's feds for her to watch?

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Smoking Crow posted:

I showed my 9 year old stepsister NXT and she loved the women's matches, but quit caring once men came on. What are some good women's feds for her to watch?

Shimmer and Shine are fine, but maybe curate them a bit in case you find some of it too racy for a nine year old. I don't know if Joshi would hold her attention but there's enough of it on Youtube.

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sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames

Smoking Crow posted:

I showed my 9 year old stepsister NXT and she loved the women's matches, but quit caring once men came on. What are some good women's feds for her to watch?

This may not be entirely what you're looking for, but you could show her some examples of women beating up the men in Lucha Underground.

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