Factor_VIII posted:After all, the vanilla game doesn't require the optimization to beat. You can easily beat the game with a suboptimal character, so if someone thinks it will be cool if his PC can turn into a big monster, why not have it as an option. There's actually a cool bit in unfinished business that lets get a quest from the city of Amn to wipe out the thieves guild once you get back from under dark.
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Baron Bifford posted:Does Greater Malison stack? I'm not sure about Greater Malison, and not sure if BG2EE adjusted this but Chain Contingency lets spells stack with themselves when they usually don't. Chain Contingency allows for some cheesy things, with the one I remember most being how it allows Wild Mages to utterly shatter the game at higher levels.
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Anyone got a neat dual wield combination for a Fighter/Thief? I want to still backstab, but I am not going to do Staff of Striking/Staff of Ram on principle. I was thinking dual wielding daggers, but I cannot remember if there was a dagger that gives the +1 APR in BG2 (I think it's actually a wazikasi or something, so scimitar prof?), so maybe just dagger/scimitar or dagger/shortsword.
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Rascyc posted:Anyone got a neat dual wield combination for a Fighter/Thief? I want to still backstab, but I am not going to do Staff of Striking/Staff of Ram on principle. I was thinking dual wielding daggers, but I cannot remember if there was a dagger that gives the +1 APR in BG2 (I think it's actually a wazikasi or something, so scimitar prof?), so maybe just dagger/scimitar or dagger/shortsword. Edit: I wonder what would happen if someone dual wielded that and Belm. Would you get 2 extra attacks? Factor_VIII fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nov 22, 2013 20:54
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One shot killing a dragon with Quivering Palm is pretty hilarious. Good show monk.
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Nov 22, 2013 20:58
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The Ninja-To is only usable by Monks until a thief/bard gets Use Any Item. I think that, Belm, and Kundane are the only + APR weapons, unless the EE added more.
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Nov 22, 2013 21:00
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There are gloves that give an extra 1/2 attack per round that are typically restricted to warrior types (which bards and thieves can use with the aforementioned Use Any Item).
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Nov 22, 2013 21:04
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Factor_VIII posted:The Scarlet Ninja-To +3 (sold by Joluv in the Copper Coronet in BG2EE) gives you an extra attack per round. IIRC it's only usable by LN, TN, LE, NE-aligned characters though. It requires a scimitar proficiency to use. In BG2 vanilla they stacked, but it's not something you ever did cause they're kind of mediocre weapons in themselves. The Scarlet is passable at +3 but by the time you can actually wield that in the main hand, there are better weapons that eclipse it over the extra attack.
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Nov 22, 2013 21:40
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Why can't I access Watcher's Keep in SoA?cheesetriangles posted:One shot killing a dragon with Quivering Palm is pretty hilarious. Good show monk. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nov 22, 2013 21:42
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That's a BG2:EE bug.
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Nov 22, 2013 21:46
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*e whoops
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Nov 22, 2013 21:59
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Poor scaling with level was a serious problem in 2ed and to a lesser extend 3ed D&D as well.
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I think this solo monk thing is working out pretty well. 
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Nov 22, 2013 22:16
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-18 AC. Wow. Monks are piss weak at low levels, but freakish at high levels. Solo play is a shift from one extreme to another.
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Nov 22, 2013 22:18
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With a few more levels I will also be at 100% magic resistance.
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Nov 22, 2013 22:22
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Get yourself a ring of regeneration so that healing is no longer a problem. You can get one in Spellhold or pickpocket one off Ribald Barterman.
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Already have ring of Gaxx. Better than a regen ring.
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cheesetriangles posted:I think this solo monk thing is working out pretty well. How did you get bracers on that guy? I thought monks were restricted from them.
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Warning to anyone who plays games on both OSX and Windows/Linux. I bought BG2 EE on Steam assuming that both my PC and Macbook would run it, in fact I really just wanted it on my Mac, but I was at home on my Windows desktop when I ordered it. Turns out they're evidently not posting the OSX version on Steam at all but instead on Beamdog (never heard of that) and later the Apple App Store. Meaning I evidently have to buy an OSX specific copy to play it on OSX too. Kind of lovely, in my opinion. All of my other Windows/OSX games let me play on either system. vty fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nov 22, 2013 23:10
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John McCain posted:That's a BG2:EE bug. Wait what's a BG2EE bug? Because if the EE doesn't let me access Watchers Keep in SoA I'm gonna be pretty loving annoyed.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Wait what's a BG2EE bug? Because if the EE doesn't let me access Watchers Keep in SoA I'm gonna be pretty loving annoyed. You can. I'm currently mucking around in Watcher's Keep.
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Captain Oblivious posted:Wait what's a BG2EE bug? Because if the EE doesn't let me access Watchers Keep in SoA I'm gonna be pretty loving annoyed. Some people have an issue with the EE where Watcher's Keep doesn't appear on the map during SoA. e: it's listed here in the list of known issues John McCain fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nov 22, 2013 23:37
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MegaGatts posted:How did you get bracers on that guy? I thought monks were restricted from them.
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vty posted:Warning to anyone who plays games on both OSX and Windows/Linux. I bought BG2 EE on Steam assuming that both my PC and Macbook would run it, in fact I really just wanted it on my Mac, but I was at home on my Windows desktop when I ordered it. Kinda your fault for not paying attention, but I sympathize. I'm not particularly impressed with the way Beamdog chooses to sell these games.
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Airfoil posted:Kinda your fault for not paying attention, but I sympathize. I'm not particularly impressed with the way Beamdog chooses to sell these games. Do you run games on OSX and Windows? I've done it for 2+ years and have never, ever had a game that came out with an OSX counterpart not automatically show up on my list. I didn't even know BG2 had an OSX version because it's gotten to the point where it's been safe to assume that if an OSX/Linux version comes out it'll be available on Steam with its Windows counterpart. I didn't notice it until it showed up in the Apple App store. I'm surprised they even allow a publisher to split up the game like that. Interoperability and not needing multiple licenses is one of the major strengths of Steam. I'd say a good 99-100% of these I bought on Windows and can download on my macbook fine. Just seems really scammy, which is my complaint. If you order it via Beamdog can you install it on both? 
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Level 34 and done watchers keep before ever paying the money to Gaelan Bayle. I will be at the xp cap before being done with spellhold probably. I think Monk goes from zero to rape machine pretty quickly once you gain a few levels.
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Airfoil posted:Kinda your fault for not paying attention, but I sympathize. I'm not particularly impressed with the way Beamdog chooses to sell these games. Beamdog didn't even want to release on Steam because of the cut that Valve takes from every Steam transaction. Plus there was some contractual hiccup, apparently now fixed, that required the Steam version to get routed through Atari. Beamdog only begrudgingly released on Steam when they realized that people refused to buy the game through the app store or their own proprietary platform.
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As someone who's never played to Spellhold, can someone give me a non-spoiler breakdown of Bodhi vs. the Shadow Thieves? Are the Shadow Thieves supposed to be good versus Bodhi evil? I like the idea of being able to kill both guilds and getting all the loot.
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Long story short they're both dicks.
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Erm, the shadow thieves are undoubtedly the good option. But it's not like it matters either way.
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voltron lion force posted:Long story short they're both dicks. Its basically choosing the least bad of the two options you're presented.
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I always thought there was a better path then Shadow Thieves for good characters? I dunno, maybe I was just content murdering Bodhi, then destroying the Thieves Guild right before I left, leaving them a nonentity. e: Does BG2EE have the stronghold bug where if you multiclass, you can start up two strongholds?
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Lesser of two evils kind of thing. There was a G3 mod that actually gave you a choice to have the church take you to Spellhold for truly good characters.
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vty posted:Just seems really scammy, which is my complaint. If you order it via Beamdog can you install it on both? Well... any game on the Steam store has the icon of the platforms it supports right on the page. As I said, though, I basically agree with you. The whole "boo hoo, we didn't want to sell on Steam - evil Atari made us do it" doesn't really wash. And as a consumer, it's not my problem. They should have figured that out before they started asking money for the game. And, no. Even if you buy it directly from Beamdog, you have to buy a separate license for every platform.
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Is it normal/okay to be going into the Nashkel mines with my party all being level 1 except jaheira? It's been a while since I really played bg1.
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Rookersh posted:I always thought there was a better path then Shadow Thieves for good characters?
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See, that never made complete sense to me. Since both the Shadow Thieves and Bodhi are undoubtedly evil organizations, there's an argument that siding with Bodhi (being the newer gang with less influence) would introduce enough chaos into the underworld that it would permanently weaken the criminal presence in Amn. If you get the thief stronghold (being an outpost for the Shadow Thieves) you have options of making money off theft, slavery and assassination, so I don't know exactly why they are considered "less evil." Plus if you side with Bodhi, you eventually kill her anyways, so that's 2 criminal empires you've disrupted
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Factor_VIII posted:If you side with Bodhi some good characters, e.g. Keldorn, permanently leave the party in disgust. This is pretty much all I needed to hear. Keldorn's great, and I would hate to lose him.
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You can join Bodhi with Keldorn, just keep him far away from the conversation so he won't hear it. He won't complain during any of the tasks you perform for her.
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LibbyM posted:Is it normal/okay to be going into the Nashkel mines with my party all being level 1 except jaheira? It's been a while since I really played bg1. Its ok I'd say, but that probably means there's a lot of wilderness you haven't explored yet. There's a lot of good loot out there! I'd think most players have at least level 2 on everyone by the time they get to the mines, but its not too hard anyways.
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