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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
The movie's probably not going to just be non-stop uncensored loving for hours, and the trailer has my interest up, but given the hype and the film title, along with Von Trier's reputation, it's going to be hard to see this in public without a great deal of embarassment. I mean, I'm a grown-rear end man but I'd feel kind of awkward buying a ticket for this, provided it were even shown anywhere near where I live (in the middle of the rural bible belt).

I'll probably just wait and brown bag it from Amazon when it comes out on video.

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That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc
Von Trier is such an interesting director and I usually get something worthwhile out of his films even if I didn't exactly enjoy myself, but I... I don't know if I can do this one. LVT is one of the few big directors I trust with sex in cinema, but I just don't think I can personally sit through 4.5 hours of it. Antichrist was about my maximum limit for sex scenes (and clitoris mutilation scenes). I'm torn because I want LVT to be successful so he keeps making interesting movies but I don't myself really want to watch this one. I'll wait for the CineD discussion of it and see if it sounds more appealing after hearing y'all spar about it for a bit.

The Meat
Jan 5, 2007

Hanks Lust Cafe posted:

Having finding a name for the song in the trailer, can it be found anywhere else?

The song is Führe mich by Rammstein. It can be found in the bonus material for their last album, Liebe Ist Für Alle Da.

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Jst0rm posted:

Im really looking forward to this film. I love All of LVT's work. I agree that some will not like what hes serving but what good art appeals to everyone? none. If you want a movie that appeals to all people go watch identity thief or the avengers.

It doesn't seem like you're totally saying this, but it's not a good defense of LVT's work to go "well, if you don't like it, maybe you can go see those mainstream baby movies :smug:" The reason I'm not a big fan of his movies isn't because he's too **challenging**, it's because I find his filmmaking approach off-putting. Just because certain people don't like his style doesn't mean they're looking for something with mass-market appeal. (And, anyway, I reject the idea that something with mass appeal can't also be great art, but that's another conversation entirely.)

This isn't limited to LVT- I fully recognize that Chuck Palahniuk is a really talented writer, for instance, but I still can't stand what books of his I've read. Doesn't mean I read Nicholas Sparks books instead.

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Nikaer Drekin posted:

It doesn't seem like you're totally saying this, but it's not a good defense of LVT's work to go "well, if you don't like it, maybe you can go see those mainstream baby movies :smug:" The reason I'm not a big fan of his movies isn't because he's too **challenging**, it's because I find his filmmaking approach off-putting. Just because certain people don't like his style doesn't mean they're looking for something with mass-market appeal. (And, anyway, I reject the idea that something with mass appeal can't also be great art, but that's another conversation entirely.)

This isn't limited to LVT- I fully recognize that Chuck Palahniuk is a really talented writer, for instance, but I still can't stand what books of his I've read. Doesn't mean I read Nicholas Sparks books instead.

I only picked the mainstream baby movies to point out we can all get a chuckle at watching something simple but we all cant enjoy something in the LVT style or the takashi miike style or the Gasper Noe style or any other directors that have their "stamp" on the art. I wasn't trying to say "hey, I'm a elite film snob because I understand this film maker" more that the more the art moves away from the norm the greater chance for people who have been exposed to a lot of art can enjoy it. Art like many things happens in layers and we all grow bored as we begin to explore a topic. We are lucky to have an artform such as this to keep us interested.

cliffs: everything isn't for everyone. It would be a boring world if it was.

net cafe scandal
Mar 18, 2011

The Meat posted:

The song is Führe mich by Rammstein. It can be found in the bonus material for their last album, Liebe Ist Für Alle Da.

Thanks, Meat!

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Jst0rm posted:

I only picked the mainstream baby movies to point out we can all get a chuckle at watching something simple but we all cant enjoy something in the LVT style or the takashi miike style or the Gasper Noe style or any other directors that have their "stamp" on the art. I wasn't trying to say "hey, I'm a elite film snob because I understand this film maker" more that the more the art moves away from the norm the greater chance for people who have been exposed to a lot of art can enjoy it.

Yeah, no worries- I didn't think you were trying to be elitist or anything but I feel like that gets brought out a lot when people criticize Von Trier.

Anyways, more on-topic, I honestly wish I was more excited for this movie because the cast is downright fantastic. Well, maybe not Shia, who I'm suspicious is just doing this to prove how super edgy he is. Maybe he'll surprise everyone though.

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer
Yeah the cast is really impressive. If you take a movie like short bus (has non-simulated sex) and look at the cast its really a bunch of nobodies. For lars to put this together with a cast of arguably top talent says a lot about people's willingness to work with him. Although I am assuming the sex is either simulated or doubles will be brought in for any penetration shots.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
My major question is how much Uma Thurman.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Maxwell Lord posted:

My major question is how much Uma Thurman.
Never enough

redback3
Mar 31, 2011

Yeah well, I was supposed to, but then Arne came and put my head into some porridge.
I'm looking forward to watching Nymphomaniac, I think it'll be a good watch. I really enjoyed Melancholia and a few of his other movies so just have to see.

They need a young Sigourney Weaver in this movie.

Fat Lou
Jan 21, 2008

Desert Heat? I thought it was Dessert Heat. No wonder it tastes so bad.

King Vidiot posted:

The movie's probably not going to just be non-stop uncensored loving for hours, and the trailer has my interest up, but given the hype and the film title, along with Von Trier's reputation, it's going to be hard to see this in public without a great deal of embarassment. I mean, I'm a grown-rear end man but I'd feel kind of awkward buying a ticket for this, provided it were even shown anywhere near where I live (in the middle of the rural bible belt).

Just go with a date. Easy solution.

the
Jul 18, 2004

by Cowcaster

Fat Lou posted:

Just go with a date. Easy solution.

I'm going to suggest this as the first movie to take my girlfriend and her parents to.

Ninja fetus
Jan 22, 2005
Legalize murder
I loved Antichrist and Melancholia, so I can't wait for this one. Although I really don't like the Rammstein song in the trailer. Hope it doesn't make it in the final cut.

TheRealGunde
Aug 13, 2007

Jst0rm posted:

Yeah the cast is really impressive. If you take a movie like short bus (has non-simulated sex) and look at the cast its really a bunch of nobodies. For lars to put this together with a cast of arguably top talent says a lot about people's willingness to work with him. Although I am assuming the sex is either simulated or doubles will be brought in for any penetration shots.
It's already been reported that there will be a whole lot of CGI and other trickery to merge the real actors with their porn-doubles.

Pierat
Mar 29, 2008
ASK ME ABOUT HOW MUCH I LOVE THE BNP
Great trailer. Lars is kind of hit or miss for me. Dogville really stuck with me but The Idiots was all kinds of terrible. This one looks fantastic though. It will be terribly awkward to watch, but worth it I imagine.

hope and vaseline
Feb 13, 2001

I just watched Antichrist. Good grief, that's a lot to digest. During the uh, gore heavy parts I was having to remind myself to breathe like the futile exercises Dafoe was giving to Gainsbourg early on in the film. Really looking forward to this film, and I think I'll wait a few days before tackling Melancholia.

Jst0rm
Sep 16, 2012
Grimey Drawer

hope and vaseline posted:

I just watched Antichrist. Good grief, that's a lot to digest. During the uh, gore heavy parts I was having to remind myself to breathe like the futile exercises Dafoe was giving to Gainsbourg early on in the film. Really looking forward to this film, and I think I'll wait a few days before tackling Melancholia.

lucky you.

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.
I'm so excited for this movie. I'm as confident about it as I was about Before Midnight. Roll the dice on me people.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

hope and vaseline posted:

I just watched Antichrist. Good grief, that's a lot to digest. During the uh, gore heavy parts I was having to remind myself to breathe like the futile exercises Dafoe was giving to Gainsbourg early on in the film. Really looking forward to this film, and I think I'll wait a few days before tackling Melancholia.

Be sure to turn up the volume to get the full experience of Melancholia.

Jewmanji
Dec 28, 2003

hope and vaseline posted:

I just watched Antichrist. Good grief, that's a lot to digest. During the uh, gore heavy parts I was having to remind myself to breathe like the futile exercises Dafoe was giving to Gainsbourg early on in the film. Really looking forward to this film, and I think I'll wait a few days before tackling Melancholia.

Melancholia is much less viscerally damaging than Antichrist or Dogville.

Buller
Nov 6, 2010
Wanna see Lars's full cut of this.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

hope and vaseline posted:

I just watched Antichrist. Good grief, that's a lot to digest. During the uh, gore heavy parts I was having to remind myself to breathe like the futile exercises Dafoe was giving to Gainsbourg early on in the film. Really looking forward to this film, and I think I'll wait a few days before tackling Melancholia.
Just watched Antichrist. Wasn't surprised to read afterwards that Von Trier was going through some serious depression at the time. So many films/pieces of literature equate futility with sexual impotence - Antichrist completely plows through that by making even sex itself absolutely futile from the get-go. Even the characters' drives are failing to get them anywhere, which is a much more realistic (and horrifying) view of depression.

Having watched it, though, I don't really see a reason to recommend it to anyone. It's not stupid or boring, it's just painful.

No Wave fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Dec 2, 2013

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

No Wave posted:

Having watched it, though, I don't really see a reason to recommend it to anyone. It's not stupid or boring, it's just painful.

Sometimes it helps to externalize negative feelings or thought processes, in order to examine them and move forward. Both Antichrist and Melancholia helped me in that respect.

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

slightly?

I can't wait to hear reports of people going to see this on dates. Especially first dates. :getin:

I have a friend who would seriously do this. Then again, she thought Antiviral was one of the hottest movies she'd ever seen, so...

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Pierat posted:

Great trailer. Lars is kind of hit or miss for me. Dogville really stuck with me but The Idiots was all kinds of terrible. This one looks fantastic though. It will be terribly awkward to watch, but worth it I imagine.

I really liked The Idiots. The last sequence where the woman gets slapped in the face by her grieving family nearly had me dying of laughter.

Keanu Grieves
Dec 30, 2002

I really like Lars Von Trier -- even his provocateur antics -- but I just can't get excited about Nymph()maniac, least of all because the parentheses in the title are absolutely meaningless. But the trailer is all over the map, and this just feels like a narcissistic "you've seen me but HAVE YOU SEEN ME NAKED?" vanity project from most of the actors involved. Yeah, you can simulate your O-face for a poster, but can you really find the truth in the material? The trailer is all over the map, the snippets of dialogue sound trite. I don't know, man. I just don't know.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost
At the very least the parentheses are pretty yonic.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Nymph Maniac seems pretty right after that trailer.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Keanu Grieves posted:

I really like Lars Von Trier -- even his provocateur antics -- but I just can't get excited about Nymph()maniac, least of all because the parentheses in the title are absolutely meaningless. But the trailer is all over the map, and this just feels like a narcissistic "you've seen me but HAVE YOU SEEN ME NAKED?" vanity project from most of the actors involved. Yeah, you can simulate your O-face for a poster, but can you really find the truth in the material? The trailer is all over the map, the snippets of dialogue sound trite. I don't know, man. I just don't know.

I dunno man I'm seeing dick go into mouth so it really doesn't seem like this glamorous now watch me act naked thing. Lars really isn't a subtle person so I'm not sure what you are expecting.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Monkeyseesaw posted:

At the very least the parentheses are pretty yonic.

Yeah did people not get that was supposed to be a vagina?

Keanu Grieves
Dec 30, 2002

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Yeah did people not get that was supposed to be a vagina?
Well, I stand corrected. Drawing a vagina as an elliptical hole was something I never got into.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

Keanu Grieves posted:

I really like Lars Von Trier -- even his provocateur antics -- but I just can't get excited about Nymph()maniac, least of all because the parentheses in the title are absolutely meaningless. But the trailer is all over the map, and this just feels like a narcissistic "you've seen me but HAVE YOU SEEN ME NAKED?" vanity project from most of the actors involved. Yeah, you can simulate your O-face for a poster, but can you really find the truth in the material? The trailer is all over the map, the snippets of dialogue sound trite. I don't know, man. I just don't know.
Is this one of those times when you absolutely, positively have to have an opinion? I get like that too sometimes.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost

Keanu Grieves posted:

Well, I stand corrected. Drawing a vagina as an elliptical hole was something I never got into.

Says the guy with the phallic avatar.

Keanu Grieves
Dec 30, 2002

Sometimes a banana is just a banana.

Unless it's in the hands of Dylan McDermott. Then it's a magical artifact.

Nikaer Drekin
Oct 11, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

No Wave posted:

Is this one of those times when you absolutely, positively have to have an opinion? I get like that too sometimes.

Yeah, Keanu Grieves, stop discussing this movie in the movie's discussion thread.

SALT CURES HAM
Jan 4, 2011

Keanu Grieves posted:

I really like Lars Von Trier -- even his provocateur antics -- but I just can't get excited about Nymph()maniac, least of all because the parentheses in the title are absolutely meaningless.

They make the O a vagina, cause Lars is so fuckin edgy guys.

Mustach
Mar 2, 2003

In this long line, there's been some real strange genes. You've got 'em all, with some extras thrown in.
I'm in total agreement on the trite dialogue. I become more certain that I'll hate this movie every time I think of the "my only sin" mini-monologue.

Ersatz
Sep 17, 2005

SALT CURES HAM posted:

They make the O a vagina, cause Lars is so fuckin edgy guys.
I don't know that it's intended to be edgy, it's just funny given the subject matter.

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DONT THREAD ON ME
Oct 1, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
Floss Finder

a foolish pianist posted:

The Willem Dafoe o face is right there in the poster.

https://vimeo.com/49333930

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