|
I just finished Melancholia. It was the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. Hopefully this'll be a bit more like Antichrist, or at least some super-slow-motion Udo Kier jizzing. Does Trier shoot his movies on film still nowadays?
|
#
¿
Dec 10, 2013 04:54
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 17, 2024 18:04 |
|
|
The_Rob posted:This is a really insightful review. You must have such a great knowledge of film to understand that melancholia is the worst film you have ever seen. I wasn't giving a review, I was offhandedly giving my opinion about a film because it felt tangentially related to the subject of the new movie. (For the record it earns the moniker 'worst' not because there's anything 'bad' about it, but because I enjoyed the experience of watching it the least out of any film I have ever seen. It didn't do anything for me at all, which even a lot of technically 'worse' movies manage. That's really all I have to say about the film, I just didn't feel engaged at all, which is probably to me the most important aspect of a movie. Sorry if my opinion offended you or something, I'm sure you have every reason to like if it you do so.) Edit: I'm welcome to be proven wrong, if there was something missing from the film. Feel free to fill me in. I'm hoping to be surprised by Nymphomaniac, which looks so incredibly open about its subject matter that surely, in 17 hours, there must be something in there. Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Dec 10, 2013 |
|
#
¿
Dec 10, 2013 13:38
|
|
|
Jst0rm posted:No one will be able to prove your opinion wrong but I will say it must be a good movie to invoke such a negative response from you That's the thing, I wouldn't even call my response negative, it incurred no response. I love hating a movie, as it were, that's part of the fun of the experience. Melancholia didn't (for me, as you and I have both taken pains to point out it's just a subjective opinion) give me anything to respond to, which I don't think has ever happened to me before. I would call the experience unique, I suppose.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 11, 2013 01:42
|
|
|
Lord Krangdar posted:Well for starters the film is about how a seriously depressed person reacts to two situations; one that is supposed to be happy (her own wedding) and the other tragic (the imminent end of the world). All her responses are flipped from everyone around her. I could go more into detail, but already that's not nothing. I'd joke that I experienced severe depression while I was watching Melancholia, but that implies it made me feel anything at all, and also be offensive to people who suffer from real depression. I have experienced it personally and I hope you weren't implying that, simply because I didn't take anything away from a film, that I'm some sort of monster who can't understand what it is like to be depressed about something and has never felt it personally. Although I did notice the element of flipped emotions at play, for some reason it didn't engage me. I wish I could explain why in words. I never really felt particularly sympathetic to the character. I'd really like to know what I was missing, what little spark I needed to find for the movie to 'work'. That's a difficult question to answer I know, which is sort of why I didn't want to get into it. I didn't get anything from it, oh well, but I'm still open-minded about Nymphomaniac and I like his other movies quite a bit. I saw Dogville today and while the message was pretty heavy-handed it was executed really well and the gimmick was interesting. Sorry for trying to be concise here but I'm more interested in what you guys think about Von Trier and the movies than getting shouted down for not 'getting' his movies, trust me my insight into a movie I felt nothing for is more limited than you, that is why I am here. Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Dec 11, 2013 |
|
#
¿
Dec 11, 2013 02:19
|
|
|
Mr. Flunchy posted:I love how people take Von Trier's films so personally, to the point of feeling directly insulted and feeling genuine anger if they don't like it. It's probably harder to do that than you'd think. As I've tried to point out, I don't hate the movie, it left such a small impression on me. I enjoyed hating the people of Dogville, which was great. Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Dec 11, 2013 |
|
#
¿
Dec 11, 2013 14:02
|
|
|
BooDoug187 posted:"poo poo, the engine block is crack and oil is leaking every where..." That sounds a lot like sex to me.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 11, 2013 17:44
|
|
|
Atlas Hugged posted:I'm a big fan of The Idiots as I already said. I'm not sure if constraining himself to the Dogma rules is really a gimmick for the viewer so much as it is a gimmick for the filmmaker though. The Five Obstructions highlights this: Lars likes setting himself and others challenges to see what comes out. It's just a thing he does. All five of the remakes of the film are in my opinion worse than the original, but they all have interesting merits of their own. Lars is like a scientist testing how to 'do' cinema and his results are always interesting. I don't know how much of it is an over-the-top gimmicky attention grab or attempt to fit the mold he's made for himself, but who cares they're fun to watch sometimes. I'm probably being dubious about him because I have friends at Uni who are massive showoffy shitheads who make a big deal of 'getting' Von Trier but don't actually know why or how they do when questioned on it.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 12, 2013 14:29
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 17, 2024 18:04 |
|
|
Atlas Hugged posted:This is a really cool movie and I wish I had been familiar with The Perfect Man before watching it. It was neat to see Lars in his "natural" state, coming up with new and strange ways to film something and bantering with a film maker he clearly adores. The animated version of the film was the one I liked the most, but it was funny how both men so obviously loathed dealing with anything animated. If there's one thing pretentious arty people who love being free to express themselves within their medium and love challenging people's preconceptions hate, it's other forms of art.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 14, 2013 04:01
|
|