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hope and vaseline posted:I just watched Antichrist. Good grief, that's a lot to digest. During the uh, gore heavy parts I was having to remind myself to breathe like the futile exercises Dafoe was giving to Gainsbourg early on in the film. Really looking forward to this film, and I think I'll wait a few days before tackling Melancholia. Melancholia is much less viscerally damaging than Antichrist or Dogville.
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Keanu Grieves posted:I thought all penetration was achieved using CGI and porn stand-ins, which proves my point. Here are actors who only go halfway towards completing their art. It's not art unless you're willing to suck a dick on camera. What? It's fine if you find the little tiny bits of dialogue in the trailer off-putting, but this whole tangent is weird.
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Keanu Grieves posted:I'm saying, these actors are getting or demanding respect because of how far they're willing to go in service of art, but that performance artists have been doing way more graphic poo poo for decades. This is what I mean by, like, artistic narcissism. Thanks for the clarification. It seems from the responses even in this thread (which I'd expect not only to be familiar with Lars von Trier, but also somewhat steeled to his sometimes abrasive style), that even people who have more than a passing familiarity to his work aren't sure if they would want to see this due to the content. I still don't see why a movie that features sex in its story requires the actors to do anything they don't want to do in order to earn your "respect"- it strikes me as pretty odd that anyone would discredit an actor for their reluctance perform sex acts on camera. No actor has ever been excoriated for not doing their own stunts, so I don't understand why this is so dramatically different. That you think this movie is garnering attention because Sofia Coppola is a "high-paid and well-known actor" who is debasing herself for the camera is bizarre. Certainly film critics were all in a fit when they found out that Antichrist had genital mutilation in it, but no one worth their salt accused Von Trier of being "10 years behind the times", or that Antichrist was "edgy" for the sake of being edgy, I think he's earned a little bit more credit than that.
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