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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:

Gay marriage has been suspended in Utah as the case works its way up to the Supreme Court. Is it possible this could lead to a ruling making gay marriage legal in all 50 states?

The 10th could just make a Utah specific ruling and courts further up refuse to hear the appeal.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 19:35

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jeffersonlives posted:

Eventually, but the case will probably take about another year and a half to two years to filter up at a minimum unless SCOTUS decides it wants it sooner (and if they really wanted that they could have reached the merits in Perry), and maybe longer. There's still a lot of steps to go.

Bur does SCOTUS even really need to take it up unless the appeal courts start making different rulings?

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 19:39

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jeffersonlives posted:

Technically no, but I don't think anyone wants to leave a hot button body of law in a piecemeal fashion based on reading between the lines of a five justice majority holding on a pair of cases that specifically ducked that exact question. Also just as a matter of conference politics, if inferior judges keep reading Windsor in this way, the four likely anti-SSM justices are going to want to grant certiorari to make the five likely pro-SSM justices actually write it explicitly since it's no-lose for the anti-SSM side.

Ah, good points. Well at least when the time comes we'll all already know the foregone conclusion.

# ¿ Jan 6, 2014 19:51

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mcmagic posted:

Apparently Kennedy fancies himself an expert on abortion and on the fact that the morning after pill is the exact same thing as an abortion just like he's an expert on campaign finance and that unlimited money in politics doesn't cause corruption. Smart guy that one.

I don't think Kennedy fancies himself an expert on abortion, I think he finds abortion to be wrong regardless of his vote in PP v Casey and it's obviously impacting his judgement in regards to what the potential outcome of this may be.

# ¿ Mar 25, 2014 21:17

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FlamingLiberal posted:

They better not add more fuel to the ridiculous 'contraception=abortion' fire. It's 2014 people, we've had the pill for half a century now.

Going by this TP article, it seems like Roberts may be inclined to think someone's belief that something causes an abortion is enough to count it as an abortion regardless of science and have it fall under religious exemption.
https://www.thinkprogress.org/justi...-birth-control/

# ¿ Mar 25, 2014 21:32

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Gerund posted:

Also why America doesn't have an all-in-one identification number.

Social Security? It's a defacto ID number given how it's used for everything and tracks your identity.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2014 21:40

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Xandu posted:

But the federal government has access to your state ID too, amongst many, many other things. It's not like they're unable to track people.

Right. It's like with the Census and those people who don't want the government collecting their information. You've already given the government all the information it seeks in the census on various other documents, they just want an an up to date version of all certain data in one collection to get an accurate current view of demographics.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2014 22:06

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SedanChair posted:

SS numbers still have the mostly-fictional idea in place that they're not supposed to be used for identification

What fictional idea? The entire country accepts SS numbers as their ID, they're used not only in transactions with the federal government, but the state government and the private market as well. Hell you can't even register pre-paid gift cards without putting up your SS number.

# ¿ Mar 26, 2014 22:48

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Looks like the administration is getting a win at the court today over its clean air rules in regards to upwind pollution traveling across states, overturning the DC circuit in a 6-2 decision(Alito recused)

http://thehill.com/regulation/energy-environment/204658-supreme-court-upholds-epa-cross-state-air-pollution-rule

quote:

The Supreme Court on Tuesday in a 6-2 decision upheld a rule that allows the Environmental Protection Agency to regulate power plant air pollution that crosses state borders, handing President Obama an important regulatory victory.

The rule, a pillar of the Obama administration's second-term climate change agenda, requires 28 states in the East, Midwest, and South to cut back on sulfur, and nitrogen emissions from coal-fired power plants that "contribute significantly" to the air problems in other states.

When the court heard oral arguments late last year, the justices were troubled over how to address the fines and regulations aimed at states under the EPA's cross-state air pollution rule, but Tuesday's ruling gave a resounding answer.

�EPA�s cost-effective allocation of emission reductions among upwind States, we hold, is a permissible, workable, and equitable interpretation of the Good Neighbor provision,� wrote Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in the majority opinion.

Under the Clean Air Act, the Good Neighbor provision gives the EPA the authority to regulate interstate pollution that interferes with the country's ability to maintain or achieve national air quality standards, which protect public health.

Justice Samuel Alito recused himself from the case.

�Today�s Supreme Court decision is a resounding victory for public health and a key component of EPA�s efforts to make sure all Americans have clean air to breathe," EPA chief Gina McCarthy said in a statement. "The Court�s finding also underscores the importance of basing the agency�s efforts on strong legal foundations and sound science."

First finalized in 2011 by the EPA, the rule was struck down last year by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, but Tuesday's decision reverses the district court's ruling, which sided with the upwind states that were challenging the EPA.

The upwind states argue that until the EPA fills in the blank on what "contribute significantly" means, they cannot adequately regulate or enforce the rule, leaving states to guess.

But the EPA contends that it allows states three years to form their own State Implementation Plan, and will afford upwind states flexibility.

Still, a number of energy companies are concerned.

The industry-backed Electric Reliability Coordinating Council said it is "essential for the EPA to remain flexible" with states when implementing the cross-state air pollution regulation.

"As we stand at the precipice of new carbon regulations, we are concerned that EPA may be emboldened to take actions that undermine cooperation with the states. If they so do, there could be severe consequences for electric reliability and affordability," said Scott Segal, director of the electric council.

Green groups cheered the Supreme Court for upholding EPA's "common-sense approach."

"The EPA safeguards follow the simple principle that giant utility companies shouldn't be allowed to dump their dirty emissions onto residents of downwind states," said John Walke of the Natural Resources Defense Council.

The Environmental Defense Fund, and Sierra Club called the decision "a resounding victory for public health."

"What is critical next is that EPA promptly move forward with implementation," said Pamela Campos, an attorney with the defense fund.

Once fully implemented, the rule is expected to help cut back the "one in 20 deaths in the U.S., 200,000 non-fatal heart attacks and 90,000 hospital admissions" a year that are a result of ozone exposure and fine particle emissions.

It is also estimated that the rule will save people across the designated states billions in annual health and environmental costs.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2014 18:42

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computer parts posted:

It's a heavily Catholic state so yeah probably.

Some of you guys have seriously movie-esque views of Catholics in America. Like the most Catholic states(NY, MA, CT, RI, NJ, CA) are also among the most liberal states in the nation. Polls have shown nominal Catholics in the US are also generally ok with abortion, gay marriage and gay adoption. It's the protestant states that are in fact the religious loons.

e: also don't public sector unions in fact make up most union members currently? I know in the private sector unionization rates have fallen to like 6%.

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# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 16:16

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Aside from the fair share fee for non-union members, is the right to automatically deduct union dues from members paychecks up for issue in this case? Because that's the serious issue with RTW, once that gets banned its over for unions.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2014 17:03

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Allaniis posted:

Alito for both...

Death is certain

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 15:02

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Harris is 5-4

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 15:04

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Green Crayons posted:

= crazy Hobby Lobby shenanigans?

Ginsburg in her dissent rises from her seat and attacks Alito with a machete declaring "The beast must die"
e: HERE IT COMES

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 15:17

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John Kruk posted:

Can closely held corporations owned by Jehovah Witnesses stop paying for blood transfusions?

No, this only applies to religious beliefs held by Hobby Lobby and 5 SCOTUS members because reasons

# ¿ Jun 30, 2014 17:34

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I thought Thomas did remark in an interview he probably would have held up Virginia law had he been on the court?

# ¿ Jul 11, 2014 00:21

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FlamingLiberal posted:

'Dreamers' in Arizona are legally entitled to receive state driver licenses, in a 6-3 decision.

Who is the dissent? I'm assuming Alito, Scalia, Thomas?

# ¿ Dec 17, 2014 19:06

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Beamed posted:

Lebanese in West Africa?

Alright I'm not the only one this stood out to

# ¿ Jun 25, 2015 21:34

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Democrats should just refuse to allow a vote on any candidate that isn't Merrick Garland until McConnel goes nuclear

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