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Father Wendigo posted:I saw Pelosi mentioned that "all options were on the table, even impeachment" to block a potential nominee. How is that supposed to work, does an impeachment take priority over a potential nomination? Technically yes, practically no.
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HannibalBarca posted:worthwhile trade: one Senate seat for the balance of power in the Supreme Court for the next 30+ years Yeah rest assured any R senators in risky area's are being given half the account numbers to a Cayman bank account with millions in it with the following numbers delivered on the predication of their vote....
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Sep 22, 2020 14:46
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Evil Fluffy posted:Or the next 3 months if the Dems take the Senate and WH because at this rate it'd be political suicide (even by the standards of DNC stupidity) to not pack the SCOTUS .. Nobody is packing the SC. This is a line fed to liberals to placate them long enough for their anger to subside. I doubt even a majority of Democratic Senators would be on board.
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Sep 22, 2020 15:45
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Drone Jett posted:Uh...they’ve been on a 50 year mission because of Democrats imposing unrestricted abortion on the country by judicial dictate. I keep getting reminded just how fervent anti-abortionists are. My father in law is a evangelist GP Doctor, and having discussed his support of Trump several times, it boils down to there is no evil that can be committed that exceeds the good done by saving even just 1 innocent baby. He knows everything Trump is doing is wrong and bad, he knows Trump is as un-Christian as one can possibly be, and he dislikes just about everything to do with the man, yet he voted for him and will do so again simply because of abortion. I asked him if he'd still vote for Trump after a 6-3 SC is seated and abortion is made illegal (presumably prior to election), and his response was he'd vote for Trump as a 'thank-you'. I'd wager abortion is the single most efficacious means of controlling those voters who prioritize it.
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Sep 24, 2020 14:10
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Sarcastro posted:I'm curious if he thinks that the guy who notoriously pays porn stars for sex/pays them to keep quiet about it and has run through multiple marriages while cheating constantly has never paid (or at least promised to pay) for an abortion. His response to this is that it doesn't matter if Trump is the literal devil. As long as he gets abortion outlawed it (and any other sacrifice) is worth it.
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Sep 24, 2020 14:45
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vyelkin posted:Have you ever asked him how he feels about the fact that abortion rates decline more under Democratic leadership than under Republicans because the most effective way to reduce abortion is not to ban it but to provide comprehensive sex education and widespread access to contraception, both of which Republicans fight tooth and nail to prevent? Yes, like I said he has a bit of a quiverfull mindset (though he didn't go that far with his own family - 3 biological kids and 6 adopted kids) and my take on it is he assumes any baby that doesn't get born, either from abortion or contraception is essentially the same.
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Sep 24, 2020 15:10
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Sarcastro posted:"Even if the price is more abortions!" Yeah, the scariest part is if you never spoke with him in private you would never know. He's a reasonable, well spoken, calm mild mannered man. I shudder to think of my doctor secretly harboring 'pray the sickness away' mentalities or political beliefs, even if they didn't prescribe to them in their own practice. He's a young earth creationist, and he takes his kids/grandkids every year to the Creation Ark exhibit in KY because its that important to him. Of course he homeschooled all his kids with extreme fundamentalist Christian curriculum. I was over one day and cracked open one of the 'science' books he was teaching his 15 year old son with and in the part on environmental activism the book says that its Man's duty to use the earth however he wishes and with no consideration for anything else, as the Earth was a gift to man by God and to not do so is an affront to God (and if it seems harmful to the earth its no big deal because God will fix it). Its just really so bizarre to me because he knows I'm a rabid liberal and yet he's always very nice/cordial/respectful around me (my wife says because I'm a man and he respects men no matter what). His library is filled to the top with Hannity esque books blatantly stating that liberals are the greatest threat to humanity and must be butchered without prejudice if America is to survive. Its really terrifying indoctrination.
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Sep 24, 2020 15:16
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Fuschia tude posted:You don't have to be protestant to buy into that pervasive mentality, any more than you have to be white to hold white supremacist beliefs. Yeah I have lots of Jewish friends who are die hard Trump supporters..... The idea that a religion or philosophy grants anyone anything other than a moniker needs to go.
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Sep 25, 2020 14:32
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Crows Turn Off posted:Do you actually have faith they would? I don't. Yeah there's no way the Democrats would pack the courts. I'd wager you wouldn't even see over 50% support for it under ANY circumstance.
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Oct 5, 2020 19:11
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Evil Fluffy posted:Yeah I don't know why I thought Roberts was ok with gay marriage, even as an optics/legacy thing. Miscarriage would only be 2nd degree murder though, so a little ray of sunshine in an otherwise dark thought experiment.
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Oct 6, 2020 20:21
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Bioshuffle posted:She would have caught more poo poo if she stopped to shuffle through her copy of the pocket constitution before answering. Imagine if she actually knew the constitution front to back and answered it correctly. Both the Bible and the Constitution are some heavy reads, but only one of them is apocryphal; so if you had to only memorize one its pretty obvious which one is the sure bet.......
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Oct 14, 2020 19:08
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Groovelord Neato posted:That's what really made Ginsburg dying make me at least feel so hopeless. It's not that you have 6 conservatives Justices - it's that they're going to keep making decisions without even a slight veneer of legal reasoning. It's just going to be totally made up bullshit. If it makes you feel any better (and I know it won't), all its really done is remove the veneer of legal reasoning, which itself never really existed in any aggregate sense. Its always been a body that justifies whatever it wants depending on who's sitting on the bench. So much of the American Governmental construct is smoke & mirrors.
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Oct 20, 2020 19:53
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VitalSigns posted:.. Chief Justice Ivanka Trump* I didn't know an infectious disease specialist could become a SC justice....
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Oct 28, 2020 17:22
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I'm from the future and I just came back to tell you all to appreciate the time you have while there's still 3 liberal justices on the court....
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Nov 5, 2020 02:40
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Dameius posted:I see they've stopped even bothering at pretense and pretext. I'm sure that is a portent of only good things to come. Its not illegal if the racism is overt I think is their new strategy. I give it 70/30 odds (in favor of).
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Mar 2, 2021 19:31
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Proust Malone posted:Find and replace “black” for “Democrat.” Yeah this just sounds bonkers to me. If its legally permissible to do everything possible to inhibit/prevent/limit the ability of democrats to vote, who in their right mind thinks the Republicans won't eventually arrive at solutions such as 'lets just close all polling locations in Democratic precincts', or hell why even stop there and simply pass a law saying that only Republican's are allowed to run for office?
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Mar 3, 2021 15:26
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So I guess voting isn't a right then, but merely a service controlled by the states in which they're free to modify however they wish as long as it doesn't directly assault race/sex/religion? (as it Sounds like Robert's is intimating)
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Mar 3, 2021 15:55
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ilkhan posted:I'm not how the 4th got wrapped up in this case at all. They didn't go to her house to shoot at her, they went to serve a valid warrant and shot because she tried to run them over. Wtf does search and seizure have to do with that? To be fair though serving a valid warrant usually involves shooting the person nowadays so its a bit of a grey area....
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Mar 26, 2021 18:15
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FlamingLiberal posted:I’m going to laugh when this case goes 6-3 but against the NCAA with the liberal justices siding with them What Bizzarro world did I just wake up in!?
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Mar 31, 2021 19:31
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Somewhat of a tangent but what happens when a judge orders people to do unethical things? How are insane or otherwise irrational judges dealt with? For example if a pregnant woman needs an abortion for medical reasons and the doctors agree but a judge orders a C-section to be performed instead and furthermore the doctors insist that a C-section will kill the patient. If the doctor refuses to perform a C-section are they found in contempt of court? If a doctor complies with a court ordered medical procedure against their best judgement can they be sued by the family of the patient? Can the judge be sued or criminally charged for essentially knowingly ordering someone's death? I'm not a lawyer but one of my friends in middle school eventually become one; but the answers are: Doctors yes found in contempt (though they have their right to appeal it), yes they can be sued by the family if they perform it, and the judge can as well (since you can sue just about anyone)...
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Aug 30, 2021 20:23
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Evil Fluffy posted:Reminder that when the GOP next retake the WH and Congress they're going to immediately nuke the filibuster the first time Dems use it to try and block the Fetal Personhood And Murder All Abortion Providers Act. This keeps getting brought up as if its some weird kind of zero sum game. It isn't. The whole system is tailor made for impartial laws/rulings/regulations etc, they simply have to be passed as law. Republicans could (if enough power and control was consolidated) simply pass a law that only allows Republican legislators to filibuster.
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May 3, 2022 17:34
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uPen posted:...If things get bad enough quickly enough perhaps by the time my kids have whomever Gilead assigns as a sponsor to father their kids, things will have started improving. FTFY
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May 3, 2022 20:44
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Its more frightening to think that with their victory over abortion rights which ghoulish cause will they champion next as the preeminent single issue to ensorcell those previous single issue abortion voters....
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May 3, 2022 20:47
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readingatwork posted:Well for one thing you could start leveraging popular sentiment to attack justices directly to make their lives miserable. It might not solve the current issue but if they know that they will never be able to go out in public without getting spit in the face and screamed at it may disincentivize similar rulings going forward. One side of politics is filled with primarily coordinated criminals, and the other side is filled with the uncoordinated remainder.
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May 4, 2022 20:59
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Criminalizing abortions makes it easy to incarcerate women and especially minority women for miscarriages and that directly strengthens the for-profit prison pipeline which itself is the modern slavery analogue.
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Main Paineframe posted:Who said anything about legitimacy? When you've got state governments arguing with the federal government over who won the election, legitimacy kind of goes out the window regardless. It's not as if a judicial intervention (like Bush v Gore) is much better. In essence implying that once Republicans hold all branches of the government the mechanism to invalidate any non Republican victory becomes complete?
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