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oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

Onmi posted:

So basically, Vince Sr. was just as scummy as Junior, just in his own way.

Oh yeah absolutely, Vincent J. was well known for screwing dudes on money and blackballs and all those wonderful promoter tactics. He was what he needed to be in that time.

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oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."
Anyone that would vote for Toots Mondt is voting for Sandow or Vince Sr., I think.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."
They moved from the Mid-South Coliseum to the FedEx Forum because the former building wasn't in decent enough shape to host an event, it wasn't because of building size. By the time WWE pulled Lawler, tickets weren't moving well and it was already clear the show was going to be a disaster, although with Lawler they probably draw 5000 paid instead of 2500 or whatever the real number was (they papered a lot too). The real surprise was that Hogan worked a match in front of a mostly empty building at all, but I am pretty sure it ended up being a reality show related thing.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

Endorph posted:

I can't imagine how terrible Hogan vs Wight match in 2007 must have been. It was garbage back in WCW, when Show was actually sort of mobile and Hogan wasn't *completely* rundown. The only positive change since WCW would be that Show isn't green as poo poo anymore, and I doubt that veteran ring general Big Show could carry them to a five star classic.

Imagine no more, the match aired nearly in full on Memphis TV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L88hQwA7Pks

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

EugeneJ posted:

If Jeff Hardy tomorrow announced the "2 Xtreme Tour" headlined by a match between himself and Mistico in Mexico City, tickets started selling well, but then a few weeks before the match Mistico pulled out and was replaced by John Morrison...what happens?

Hogan obviously was going to a place where Lawler would be the draw and he could take credit for it regardless. Still - he didn't plan on wrestling Big Show and you can't be surprised that matchup didn't draw in Memphis, after they had been promised the hometown hero.

Tickets weren't selling well, though. When Lawler pulled out they had sold like the first four rows and that was it, for a show that was scaled way cheaper than a WWE event, had a loaded undercard, and came with meet and greets and goodies and all kinds of poo poo. The refund story is also apocryphal, it was Maclin's bullshit line because he publicly claimed a few weeks out they had sold some absurd amount of tickets that was like quadruple the ultimate paid number.

The show didn't draw at all and the show nuclear bombing pretty much crushed Hogan and Hart's longstanding dream of starting their own domestic touring group, though they did ultimately give it a go internationally years later.

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