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Misandrist Duck
Oct 22, 2012
I thought this was interesting.

Citing the Benghazi attack, 150 marines are poised to enter South Sudan to help evacuate the U.S. embassy.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/23/world/africa/south-sudan-violence/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 posted:

"By positioning these forces forward, we are able to more quickly respond to crisis in the region, if required," read a statement from U.S. Africa Command.
It cited the example of Benghazi, where an attack last year killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.
"One of the lessons learned from the tragic events in Benghazi was that we needed to be better postured, in order to respond to developing or crisis situations, if needed. These precautionary movements will allow us to do just that," the statement read.

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SoggyBobcat
Oct 2, 2013


Thank you so much for this post. Finding clear, concise information on the issues in Central Africa is always such a chore and this clears a lot of things up for me. Much appreciated.

quote:

North Kivu Boogaloo 2: The UN Strikes Back

I laughed at this a lot more than I should have.

Misandrist Duck
Oct 22, 2012
And now reports of mass graves in South Sudan

quote:

The UN says it has reports of three mass graves in South Sudan, amid "palpable fear" among civilians they will be killed for their ethnicity.

There has been a week of fighting amid a power struggle between President Salva Kiir, a Dinka, and ex-deputy Riek Machar, of the Nuer.

The UN said 34 bodies had been found in Bentiu in the north, with two more sites reported in the capital, Juba.

One man in Juba said he was rounded up with 250 men and only 12 survived.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

A UN aid worker in South Sudan is estimating a death toll in the thousands.

The Guardian published a big piece today with a bunch of eye witness accounts collected by a journalist on the ground. Some harrowing stuff

quote:

A week ago, Simon K, a 20-year-old student living in the capital of South Sudan, was arrested by men in military uniforms. He was asked a question that has taken on deadly importance in the world's newest country in the past seven days: incholdi – "What is your name?" in Dinka, the language of the country's president and its largest ethnic group.

Those who, like Simon, were unable to answer, risked being identified as Nuer, the ethnic group of the former vice-president now leading the armed opposition and facing the brunt of what insiders are describing as the world's newest civil war.

Simon K was taken to a police station in the Gudele market district of Juba, where he was marched past several dead bodies and locked in a room with other young men, all Nuer. "We counted ourselves and found we were 252," he told the Guardian. "Then they put guns in through the windows and started to shoot us."

The massacre continued for two days with soldiers returning at intervals to shoot again if they saw any sign of life. Simon was one of 12 men to survive the assault by covering themselves in the bodies of the dead and dying.

Also, It seems the government has retaken Bor after an offensive launched today. Reports say there is also a government offensive to retake Bentiu in Unity but no word on how that's progressing. Seems both attacks were delayed until the American evacuation was completed

flatbus
Sep 19, 2012

ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

Also a bit of positive news:
http://allafrica.com/stories/201312120605.html


An increase of life expectancy of 12 years over a period of 10 years, which surely must be the fastest increase of any country ever?

The praise heaped on Botswana needs clarification. While it has one of the world's highest GDP growths, it's not shared by the people at all:



The last line is Botswana, showing an increase in rural poverty and a slight decrease in urban poverty from 1993 to 2003. Meanwhile, GDP per capita grew by 52% during that time. Essentially, Botswana's strong private property institutions did preserve GDP growth, and accordingly deposited that growth in the hands of those who owned said private property. Growth isn't the end-all solution if GDP per capita increases by 52% while national poverty headcount drops by only 2%. (NB: I'm not intentionally trying to play a trick here with the cutoff dates, those are just the most readily available datasets I have access to.)

Also, as for life expectancy, I think the years given in the article (2001-2011) were chosen a bit too suspiciously:



That dip is caused by the AIDS pandemic, which is another answer to the question 'why is SSA so hosed.' Note that this doesn't completely excuse Botswana for having such a shocking drop in life expectancy, because GDP per capita growth was constantly increasing during this time. GDP itself rose sharply too - which means the increasing GDP/capita isn't a morbid artifact of people dying and leaving behind more wealth per capita for the rest of the country. What good is an enormous GDP if it can't stop the country from suffering one of the highest rates of AIDS prevalence in Africa?

Also, I thought that the specific metric, life expectancy at birth, seemed to be at odds with what World Bank records indicate:



Actually on this issue, it's a matter of empirical disagreement and I don't actually hold the WB to be in higher esteem; I just thought it was interesting that the life expectancy figures end up in completely different directions.

All this isn't to poo poo on Botswana's achievements, the GDP numbers are definitely solid; it's just that I find growth-oriented solutions dubious in lifting a country out of poverty even when they're wildly successful.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Yeah, sounds like a lot of half-truths on top of each other when Botswana doesn't seem that different than their neighbors despite high GDP growth (which doesn't actually account for much if it isn't redistributed).

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

flatbus posted:

What good is an enormous GDP if it can't stop the country from suffering one of the highest rates of AIDS prevalence in Africa?

It must be doing some good, I've read praise for Botswana's anti HIV efforts of the past decade. I don't think any SSA nation had enough money, infrastructure of general levels of education to stop from being devastated by staggering levels of HIV, especially given how fast it came on.

Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Dec 24, 2013

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Amused to Death posted:

It must be doing some good, I've read praise for Botswana's anti HIV efforts of the past decade. I don't think any SSA nation had enough money, infrastructure of general levels of education to stop from being devastated by staggering levels of HIV, especially given how fast it came on.

That is only going to go so far in a country with a very high gini index, in fact one of the highest in the world.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Ardennes posted:

That is only going to go so far in a country with a very high gini index, in fact one of the highest in the world.

True, but the gini won't mean as much on this particular subject if you have a concentrated, nationalized nation-wide effort against HIV. For example, the number of HIV positive babies born to HIV positive moms has fallen to near western levels in just a few years. This NPR article also says near 95% of infected people receive anti-retroviral drugs for free, which is more than the US can actually say.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Amused to Death posted:

True, but the gini won't mean as much on this particular subject if you have a concentrated, nationalized nation-wide effort against HIV. For example, the number of HIV positive babies born to HIV positive moms has fallen to near western levels in just a few years. This NPR article also says near 95% of infected people receive anti-retroviral drugs for free, which is more than the US can actually say.

Massive inequality almost certainly helped the epidemic spread in the first place. Of course its neighbors also had considerable inequality as well. The damage was already done.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Ardennes posted:

Massive inequality almost certainly helped the epidemic spread in the first place. Of course its neighbors also had considerable inequality as well. The damage was already done.

Oh I thought you meant inequality in regards to the current efforts. No doubt the inequality probably helped quicken the spread. I don't think any country in the region though ever had a chance to stop the original epidemic, low or high inequality, unless history had been different and the nations of the area were reasonably developed. It just hit too quick and too strong. Botswana has shown though it's possible to begin to abate the level of the epidemic.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Amused to Death posted:

Oh I thought you meant inequality in regards to the current efforts. No doubt the inequality probably helped quicken the spread. I don't think any country in the region though ever had a chance to stop the original epidemic, low or high inequality, unless history had been different and the nations of the area were reasonably developed. It just hit too quick and too strong. Botswana has shown though it's possible to begin to abate the level of the epidemic.

That is the issue people assume Botswana is developed because it has a high GDP, but in reality it faces much of the same challenges as its neighbors. Of course, the issue is that Botswana has been held up as a model when in fact the long term results are very much left wanting. Their recent effort against AIDS doesn't seem to contradict this.

flatbus
Sep 19, 2012

Amused to Death posted:

It must be doing some good, I've read praise for Botswana's anti HIV efforts of the past decade. I don't think any SSA nation had enough money, infrastructure of general levels of education to stop from being devastated by staggering levels of HIV, especially given how fast it came on.

Not to challenge you, but I'd like to read more on this. I've only been looking at it from a statistical perspective, which is quite ugly (24% prevalence rate, one of the highest in the continent). Now this could entirely be that Botswana was disproportionately affected by the AIDS pandemic, it's just frustrating to see the high rate when Botswana has a GDP/capita (PPP) of ~$15k, on the level of developed Latin American countries and much higher than South Africa (~$11k).

General SSA-chat: It's getting close to the Millenium Development Goals deadline 2015.

Progress report here:
http://www.undp.org/content/undp/en/home/librarypage/mdg/mdg-reports/africa-collection/

Summary:


Good news:

UN progress report posted:

Attending primary school is becoming the norm, but the quality of
education remains a challenge


Most countries have achieved universal primary enrolment—rates of 90 per cent or higher—so the
continent as a whole is expected to achieve Goal 2. Low completion and high grade repetition remain a
challenge, however, as one in three students drop out. Reasons include late entry, poverty, poor quality of
education and a lack of awareness of education’s importance. Some 30 per cent of students with six years
of schooling cannot read a sentence, and girls are more likely to drop out than boys. Social protection
regimes—particularly cash transfers and school feeding programmes—and access to preschools have been
instrumental in reducing dropout.

Progress toward gender parity is encouraging
Women across Africa are becoming more empowered, with more girls attending both primary and secondary
school and more women in positions of political power. Nearly half the countries in Africa have achieved
gender parity in primary school, and while parity at the secondary and tertiary levels has improved, limited
data makes measuring progress difficult. Thanks to affirmative action, the proportion of seats held by
women in African national parliaments (nearly 20 per cent) is second only to that in Latin America and
the Caribbean. Early marriage, inequitable household power dynamics and low economic opportunities for
women, however, are slowing progress.
...

Africa has halted the spread of HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria
Africa has halted and reversed the spread of HIV/AIDS, with a drop in prevalence rates from 5.9 per cent
in 2001 to 4.9 per cent in 2011, due to strong political will, focused interventions and increased access to
antiretroviral therapy. While tuberculosis and malaria remain serious health threats, Africa as a whole has
halted the spread of both. Tuberculosis infections and deaths have fallen sharply in recent years, as have
malaria cases and deaths. Access to insecticide-treated bed nets and improved prevention and treatment
have played a large role in the declines.

Bad news:

UN progress report posted:

Poverty reduction lags behind growth
Africa is the world’s second fastest growing region, and extreme poverty has declined faster since 2005 than
over 1990–2005—but not fast enough to reach the target by 2015. The proportion of people living in extreme
poverty (on less than $ 1.25 a day) in Southern, East, Central and West Africa as a group fell from 56.5 per
cent in 1990 to 48.5 per cent in 2010; about 20.25 percentage points off the 2015 target, compared with just
4.1 points for South Asia. However, more people are joining the ranks of extreme poverty than exiting—some
124 million people fell into extreme poverty over 1990–2010.

Decent jobs, a work in progress
Africa’s growth has not been job-rich, and most jobs are vulnerable. Over the past 10 years, Africa’s labour
force added 91 million people but only 37 million jobs in wage-paying sectors. Some 46 per cent of Africa’s
workers earn less than $1.25 per day, working in vulnerable jobs with low wages and low productivity. Africa’s
high working poverty and vulnerable employment call for strengthening social protection programmes
to cushion workers from economic shocks. Job growth requires a structural transformation of African
economies—with bold industrial policies that promote value addition and economic diversification.

Inequality is undermining efforts to reduce poverty
High gender, income and rural–urban inequalities have tempered the nexus between growth and poverty
reduction. In Africa, a 1 per cent increase in inequality increases poverty 2.16 per cent. Wage rates remain
unequal by gender, with women making as little as half that men make for the same work in Mauritania,
Algeria and Côte d’Ivoire. On average, births to women in the richest quintile are nearly three times as likely
to be attended by a trained professional as births to women in the poorest. Ninety per cent of women in
urban areas had at least one antenatal care visit during pregnancy, well above the 71 per cent for women in
rural areas. Addressing gender and rural–urban inequality is thus vital for sustaining progress on the MDGs

...

Food insecurity—a recurring challenge
Africa’s food insecurity challenge is manifested in high prevalence of hunger and malnutrition, especially
among children. In 2012, Southern, East, Central and West Africa’s Global Hunger Index (20.7) was second
only to Southern Asia’s (22.5). Most African countries endured serious to alarming hunger over 1990–2012,
scoring between 20 and 40.
At $174 per capita, the value of Africa’s food production is well below the global
average ($241 per capita) and the lowest worldwide. African countries must build on initiatives like the African
Union’s Comprehensive Africa Agricultural Development Programme and focus on the multidimensional
aspects of food security to accelerate progress towards halving hunger and ensuring food security. Regional
and national programmes have shown that food security is an intersectoral problem that needs an integrated
approach. But the responses have been undermined by weak political ownership, the limited scope of
programmes and weak private sector and civil society involvement.

edit: UN report's on all of Africa, not just sub-Saharan.

flatbus fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Dec 24, 2013

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Does Mauritania/Western-Sahara count? Don't have another thread for it.

Edgar Quintero
Oct 5, 2004

POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
DO NOT GIVE HEROIN
edit: Please do talk about Mauritania, the place is fascinating

From http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/12/south-sudan-death-toll-thousands-20131224184529888976.html

quote:

The United Nations Security Council has approved plans to almost double the number of UN peacekeepers in South Sudan.

The 15-member council unanimously authorised on Tuesday a request by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to boost the strength of the UN mission in South Sudan to 12,500 troops and 1,323 police - up from its previous mandate of 7,000 troops and 900 police.

Earlier on Tuesday the top UN humanitarian chief in the country said thousands of South Sudanese have been killed in the week-long violence, giving the first clear indication of the scale of conflict engulfing the young nation.

"Absolutely no doubt in my mind that we're into the thousands" of dead, Toby Lanzer told reporters on Tuesday
Follow our in-depth coverage of South Sudan

The official death toll has stood at 500 for days, although numbers are feared to be far higher, with some estimating at least a 1,000.

Hilde Johnson, head of the UN peacekeeping mission in South Sudan told Al Jazeera on Tuesday "terrible atrocities have been committed and perpetrators will have to be held accountable."

She said the situation "will turn into a large scale humanitarian crisis if the violence does not stop."

Mass graves found

UN rights chief Navi Pillay said on Tuesday that a mass grave had been found in the rebel-held town of Bentiu, while there were "reportedly at least two other mass graves" in the capital Juba.

The grim discoveries follow more than a week of escalating battles between troops loyal to President Salva Kiir and those backing his rival Riek Machar, a former vice president who was sacked in July.

Machar's forces were driven from the town of Bor on Tuesday by the army, but still hold Bentiu, capital of the key oil-producing state of Unity.

Lanzer said the situation in Bentiu remained "tense."

"There are a lot of armed men, almost no civilians on the street," he said to AFP.

"There are now well over 7,000 civilians within the UN base, where they've had to extend the perimeter."


Fighting has spread to half of the nation's 10 states, with hundreds of thousands fleeing to the countryside, prompting warnings of an imminent humanitarian disaster.

Machar ready to talk

Machar said, for the first time, on Tuesday that he was ready to accept Kiir's offer of talks, suggesting neighbouring Ethiopia as a neutral location.

"We are ready for talks," he told Radio France Internationale (RFI), adding that he had spoken earlier in the day to US Secretary of State John Kerry and Ethiopia's Foreign Minster Tedros Adhanom.

"We want democratic free and fair elections. We want Salva Kiir to call it a day," Machar said, listing his demands, which follow days of shuttle diplomacy by African nations and calls from Western powers for fighting to stop.

Machar's promise of talks came shortly before the army stormed Bor town, which Information Minister Michael Makwei called a "gift of the government of South Sudan to the people".

Bor's capture, apparently without major resistance by the rebels, relieves some 17,000 besieged civilians who fled into the overstretched UN peacekeeping compound for protection, severely stretching limited food and supplies.

The bolded bit answers kustomkarkommando's question about Bentiu.

Edgar Quintero fucked around with this message at 00:50 on Dec 25, 2013

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Lawman 0 posted:

What do you make of the reports of piracy in west Africa?
By all means, the focal point of piracy in the world has shifted from East Africa to West Africa. Everywhere in the world, piracy rates have dropped - significantly so near Somalia. The foreign military efforts off the coast of Somalia and the - I can't say stabilisation, but at least the change in the situation on the ground in Somalia itself have led to this drop. (the increase in official government influence after the AU-intervention helped)

But the reverse is happening in West Africa. Piracy has been common in the Niger-delta for some years. At first, it was part of the armed rebellion between 2003 and 2009, but from 2009 onwards as the conflict ebbed, more and more criminal organisations took over. Also fuelling it is the discontent of the local population with the government - which gets 4/5ths of its income from the oil industry, while very little of that money "trickles down" to the local population. What they do get stuck with, is the ecological fallout of the industry. This often ruins livelihoods and well, piracy is a attractive alternative. The attacks were mainly focussed on pipelines, tankers, etc. The oil companies quickly got wise and started securing their assets. In response, piracy took to the seas, targeting mainly tankers and oil platforms. And as the oil industry in the region expands, so is the area in which the pirates operate. They're moving from Nigerian waters to the rest of the coastline.

The piracy is different from East Africa, though. They rarely take hostages. They're there for the cargo (often oil) and usually release the crew. They couldn't hold the ships anyway, since as opposed to what used to be the case in Somalia, they don't have government-free ports where they can hold the ships.

Anyway, the countries there are moving to counter it. You can expect more and more international navies to get involved as well.

ANYTHING YOU SOW
Nov 7, 2009

flatbus posted:

The praise heaped on Botswana needs clarification. While it has one of the world's highest GDP growths, it's not shared by the people at all:


Also, as for life expectancy, I think the years given in the article (2001-2011) were chosen a bit too suspiciously:



That dip is caused by the AIDS pandemic, which is another answer to the question 'why is SSA so hosed.' Note that this doesn't completely excuse Botswana for having such a shocking drop in life expectancy, because GDP per capita growth was constantly increasing during this time. GDP itself rose sharply too - which means the increasing GDP/capita isn't a morbid artifact of people dying and leaving behind more wealth per capita for the rest of the country. What good is an enormous GDP if it can't stop the country from suffering one of the highest rates of AIDS prevalence in Africa?

Also, I thought that the specific metric, life expectancy at birth, seemed to be at odds with what World Bank records indicate:



Actually on this issue, it's a matter of empirical disagreement and I don't actually hold the WB to be in higher esteem; I just thought it was interesting that the life expectancy figures end up in completely different directions.

All this isn't to poo poo on Botswana's achievements, the GDP numbers are definitely solid; it's just that I find growth-oriented solutions dubious in lifting a country out of poverty even when they're wildly successful.

I think 2001 and 2011 were just the dates of the censuses. I'm not really sure about the figures for life expectancy- I assumed that they got them all from the census, and that those from the press release are just more up to date than the world bank ones, but I dunno.

I think your definitely right that GDP per capita on it's own isn't everything- look at Equatorial Guinea! Really what Botswana needs to do is to move onto high value manufacturing. Mining employs very few people, you want industries that employ larger numbers of people in order to share the economic activity more equitably. Of course this is pretty difficult for a country like Botswana that has a very small population and that is landlocked. They do however seem to be going in the right direction in terms of moving up the value chain with diamonds: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24876589

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

ANYTHING YOU SOW posted:

I think 2001 and 2011 were just the dates of the censuses. I'm not really sure about the figures for life expectancy- I assumed that they got them all from the census, and that those from the press release are just more up to date than the world bank ones, but I dunno.

I think your definitely right that GDP per capita on it's own isn't everything- look at Equatorial Guinea! Really what Botswana needs to do is to move onto high value manufacturing. Mining employs very few people, you want industries that employ larger numbers of people in order to share the economic activity more equitably. Of course this is pretty difficult for a country like Botswana that has a very small population and that is landlocked. They do however seem to be going in the right direction in terms of moving up the value chain with diamonds: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24876589

Honestly, it looks like Botswana is facing a resource curse, in this case it is diamonds rather than gas or oil. It is something that is very difficult to break out of especially when diamonds alone make up 62% of exports (and other mining takes another chunk).

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Ardennes posted:

Honestly, it looks like Botswana is facing a resource curse, in this case it is diamonds rather than gas or oil. It is something that is very difficult to break out of especially when diamonds alone make up 62% of exports (and other mining takes another chunk).

And cattle, their other big thing, is basically unexpandable and probably past its maximum; cattle grazing is producing a minor ecological catastrophe, which is a Really Big Problem when cattle ownership represents by far the biggest kinda-egalitarian industry in the country.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Yeah, for those that don't know. Cattle in many parts of Africa are basically your 'bank' in the villages. A lot of the culture, especially in West Africa, is based around patron-client relationships, where the poorest ask (and get) handouts from richer people; the patrons get social status and the poor get money/goods. However, the rich obviously only want to do this so much, so they will buy cattle which live decently long lives and give 'interest' (breeding). Often, every other/third calf will be given to the herder as payment for his service.

So in a lot of places there are getting to be large over concentrations of cattle, leading to overgrazing. And overgrazing makes desertification worse, changes soil composition, etc. Its a minor disaster in some areas.


Why not use banks? The banks are centered in large cities mostly, which are difficult and expensive for rural populations to get to. And the banks charge a lot of fees and give almost no interest back, so at best the accounts remain static. And, really, there is no monetary culture of saving in the area. People are culturally used to having expenses match their income, with any extra used to throw parties and help relatives to gain social capital.

If you want to learn more about monetary culture in West Africa, there is a really good book called African Friends and Money Matters by David Maranz which goes in-depth into the differences between American/European financial culture and African financial culture. Its a bit old though.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

flatbus posted:

Not to challenge you, but I'd like to read more on this. I've only been looking at it from a statistical perspective, which is quite ugly (24% prevalence rate, one of the highest in the continent). Now this could entirely be that Botswana was disproportionately affected by the AIDS pandemic, it's just frustrating to see the high rate when Botswana has a GDP/capita (PPP) of ~$15k, on the level of developed Latin American countries and much higher than South Africa (~$11k).

I would say it's in fact the bolded part. Botswana was in the middle of the geographic area of the most severe region of the HIV epidemic. There's not any ryhme or reason to the outbreak numbers beyond geography. Botswana, Namibia, South Africa(this one is sketchier given apartheid was going into the 1990's) , and Zimbabwe(my knowledge on Zimbabwe isn't great but I hear until the past decade Zimbabwe was doing pretty well as far as sub-Saharan African nations) should in theory have lower numbers for their level of development when places right next door like Angola, DRC, and Mozambique have much lower rates of HIV infection despite years of civil war and huge areas with de facto no government to provide an effective response(or any response period).

(I actually wonder if higher levels of development coupled with very lower populations actually helped HIV spread, namely in Botswana and Namibia. Most of both countries is arid and sparsely populated, it's possible their small populations may be more urbanized and/or localized which would spread disease quicker)

The good news though(for Botswana specifically) is going by World Bank data, HIV rates have fallen by near 5 points since peaking around 1999, and as the last articles I posted showed, the rate of HIV transmission to children among HIV+ parents is down to 3-4%(from 40% previously) and near all of the infected population has access to retro-virus drugs(and potentially information on how to stop transmission). To see how effective this is though is going to take several more years of watching and waiting.

Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Dec 25, 2013

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

Communocracy posted:

edit: Please do talk about Mauritania, the place is fascinating
Isn't there honest-to-God chattel slavery in Mauritania? It's the country with the most slaves per capita in the world.

One thing that hasn't been touched upon here is the "resource curse." Countries that have oil, diamonds, gold, etc. found in them don't have the infrastructure to take advantage of them, and there is major government and private sector corruption that skims lots of money off the top. Here's an example in Nigeria, Africa's biggest oil producer.

This is kind of a silly question, but what's with the generic names of South Sudan states and districts? Unity, Hai Referendum, Area 107?

Hashtag Nascar
Jan 4, 2012

Mauritania is pretty much a poor man's Saudi Arabia, they were supported by Algeria for a while to spite Morocco over Western Sahara, but pulled out of their third (the bottom part of western sahara) due to economic troubles and faded to near irrelevance in the area once again.


Y-Hat posted:

Isn't there honest-to-God chattel slavery in Mauritania? It's the country with the most slaves per capita in the world.

Slavery only got abolished there relatively recently, however it isn't illegal to own slaves. Something ridiculous like a tenth of the population are slaves iirc.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Communocracy posted:

edit: Please do talk about Mauritania, the place is fascinating

From http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/12/south-sudan-death-toll-thousands-20131224184529888976.html


The bolded bit answers kustomkarkommando's question about Bentiu.

I'll do a write up after Christmas. Long story short: the last colony in Africa and Morocco's secret shame come to mind (as far as Western Sahara is involved)

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Aliquid posted:

Anyone have any writing on how Botswana has been able to create an effective civil society in which the public has faith?

Botswana is relatively ethnically homogeneous (79% Tswana), has a population of only 2 million people and produces a metric fuckton of diamonds. Regardless of policies, they're starting from one of the most advantageous positions on the continent.

Equatorial Guinea is a good comparison, though -- similar population, homogeneity and even higher GDP per capita, but in that case it's from oil, not diamonds. And they are a lot worse off than Botswana.

I would argue that this comes down to the difference in importance in international politics between diamonds and oil. Oil is a strategic resource, and the big powers are more than happy to gently caress with countries both openly and in secret to ensure its flow.

It's only part of the puzzle, but it's worth bearing in mind that colonialism in Sub-Saharan Africa never really ended, it just got kinder and gentler. It's gone from outright rape and pillage to American-led exchanging of resources for valuable free market ideology to the Chinese actually building infrastructure in exchange for the resources they plunder. But at no point in the past 500 years have most countries in Sub-Saharan Africa not been effectively vassal states to global powers.

Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

Lead out in cuffs posted:

And they are a lot worse off than Botswana.

I hear they actually have an extremely poor level of living for most people despite all the wealth because the current regime and his uncle's before have been one long running kleptocracy. Meanwhile on paper the nation has a GDP per capita on par with South Korea.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Lead out in cuffs posted:


It's only part of the puzzle, but it's worth bearing in mind that colonialism in Sub-Saharan Africa never really ended, it just got kinder and gentler. It's gone from outright rape and pillage to American-led exchanging of resources for valuable free market ideology to the Chinese actually building infrastructure in exchange for the resources they plunder. But at no point in the past 500 years have most countries in Sub-Saharan Africa not been effectively vassal states to global powers.

There was actually a long-running joke in my city by locals about the halted construction or shoddy workmanship of Chinese infrastructure projects.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Aliquid posted:

There was actually a long-running joke in my city by locals about the halted construction or shoddy workmanship of Chinese infrastructure projects.

There's a travelogue written by a Zulu guy from my home town who did the Cape to Cairo alone using public transit. I forget which country it was -- somewhere northeast (Ethiopia maybe) -- but he walks into a nice-looking hotel, tries to check in, and is told "I'm very sorry sir, this establishment is for Chinese people only."

I still have the impression that they're going about it more gently than previous waves of colonialism, but some things never change.

curried lamb of God
Aug 31, 2001

we are all Marwinners

Aliquid posted:

There was actually a long-running joke in my city by locals about the halted construction or shoddy workmanship of Chinese infrastructure projects.

The locals here complain because Chinese companies (including construction firms) and their employees won't hire local workers, even for tasks like housekeeping and cooking.

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
One huge problem is that many Chinese treat African projects as a Chinese jobs program and import all the labor, instead of hiring Africans. So licks have no connection to the huge project in their neighborhood, other than the fact that government officials get rich.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

surrender posted:

The locals here complain because Chinese companies (including construction firms) and their employees won't hire local workers, even for tasks like housekeeping and cooking.

Yep, they complain about the Chinese here too. I'll hear people yell out stuff like "ching chong chang China!" at anyone vaguely Asian on the street. Quite racist, especially since its mostly Japanese aid workers in our area right now. :stare:

They will still go to the Chinese embassy to make special product orders, though. I'm helping my friend set up a household biogas-electrical generator company in my area. He is going to order the expensive parts directly from the Chinese embassy since they are cheap.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Al-Jazeera had a good report from inside Bor. There's a pause in the fighting, so people went back through town to salvage what they could before hurrying back to the UN camps. You can tell the fighting has been pretty drat heavy already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlQLGqobrA4

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Hilde Johnson, head of the United Nations Mission in South Sudan, held a press conference a couple of minutes ago and made some clarifications about the reports of mass graves in Bentiu. Apparently the bodies of 13 or 15 SPLA soldiers were discovered in a single grave following a skirmish, somehow this was mis-communicated to Geneva leading to the reports of 75 dead. She was very cagey about the report of the massacre at the police station mentioned earlier in the thread, she said it is under investigation but did confirm that the police station in question was in Gudele (a shanty-town suburb of Juba that has sprung up to accommodate returning refugees).

Fighting has spread to the Upper Nile, a major oil producing region, loads of conflicting reports that the rebels have captured the state capital of Malakal with others saying the government is still in control. The Upper Nile has a big Chinese presence in the oil fields and it seems they've evacuated their nationals as well.

On the CAR front very bad news keeps coming.

A skirmish between Chadian peacekeepers (the largest contingent of the AU peacekeeping mission) and an angry mob ended with the peacekeepers opening fire on the crowd killing a protestor (there are also reports they exchanged fire with Burundian troops in the area). This sparked a wave of attacks against the Chadian contingent that peaked on Wednesday and has,so far, left six peacekeepers dead. The Chadian troops are being pulled out of the capital and redeployed north while The French are deploying tanks to secure the capital.

There are some worrying echoes of Somalia here...

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

Lead out in cuffs posted:

Botswana is relatively ethnically homogeneous (79% Tswana), has a population of only 2 million people and produces a metric fuckton of diamonds. Regardless of policies, they're starting from one of the most advantageous positions on the continent.

Equatorial Guinea is a good comparison, though -- similar population, homogeneity and even higher GDP per capita, but in that case it's from oil, not diamonds. And they are a lot worse off than Botswana.

I would argue that this comes down to the difference in importance in international politics between diamonds and oil. Oil is a strategic resource, and the big powers are more than happy to gently caress with countries both openly and in secret to ensure its flow.

It's only part of the puzzle, but it's worth bearing in mind that colonialism in Sub-Saharan Africa never really ended, it just got kinder and gentler. It's gone from outright rape and pillage to American-led exchanging of resources for valuable free market ideology to the Chinese actually building infrastructure in exchange for the resources they plunder. But at no point in the past 500 years have most countries in Sub-Saharan Africa not been effectively vassal states to global powers.

The situation in Equitorial Guinea has a lot to do with the fact that the country's first post-independence leader, Francisco Nguema, was a raving lunatic who pillaged the country of everything he could get his hands on. During the 70s Equitorial Guinea didn't really have a president so much as a looter-in-chief. In one famous episode on Christmas Day 1975, he had a bunch of his opponents (real and imaginary) rounded up and shot in a stadium by troops wearing Santa costumes while 'Those Where the Days' played over the loudspeakers. In other countries, it took decades for the initial post-independence optimism to crumble under the weight of corruption and mismanagement; Equitorial Guinea started off at basically rock bottom.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Jonad posted:

The situation in Equitorial Guinea has a lot to do with the fact that the country's first post-independence leader, Francisco Nguema, was a raving lunatic who pillaged the country of everything he could get his hands on. During the 70s Equitorial Guinea didn't really have a president so much as a looter-in-chief. In one famous episode on Christmas Day 1975, he had a bunch of his opponents (real and imaginary) rounded up and shot in a stadium by troops wearing Santa costumes while 'Those Where the Days' played over the loudspeakers. In other countries, it took decades for the initial post-independence optimism to crumble under the weight of corruption and mismanagement; Equitorial Guinea started off at basically rock bottom.

:stare:

Apparently (according to wikipedia) he was at first elected in a fair election too? :psyduck: (not that it ever prevented horrible people from being elected but still)

:smith:

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Amused to Death posted:

I would say it's in fact the bolded part. Botswana was in the middle of the geographic area of the most severe region of the HIV epidemic. There's not any ryhme or reason to the outbreak numbers beyond geography. Botswana, Namibia, South Africa(this one is sketchier given apartheid was going into the 1990's) , and Zimbabwe(my knowledge on Zimbabwe isn't great but I hear until the past decade Zimbabwe was doing pretty well as far as sub-Saharan African nations) should in theory have lower numbers for their level of development when places right next door like Angola, DRC, and Mozambique have much lower rates of HIV infection despite years of civil war and huge areas with de facto no government to provide an effective response(or any response period).

(I actually wonder if higher levels of development coupled with very lower populations actually helped HIV spread, namely in Botswana and Namibia. Most of both countries is arid and sparsely populated, it's possible their small populations may be more urbanized and/or localized which would spread disease quicker)

Botswana's reliance on mining as the main component of their economy definitely plays a role in the high HIV prevalence among the population (like in South Africa). Mining in Southern Africa relies on a highly mobile migrant workforce, men leave their families and travel to distant mining camps in the bush for month-long work shifts to financially provide for their families who remain at home. A shadow industry of prostitution developed around these isolated mining communities facilitating the spread of HIV, which would then be brought home when the miners returned to their families between shifts. Debswana and Anglo-American both instituted sweeping ARV programs when they realized the extent of HIV infection among their workforce (or when absenteeism began biting at their bottom line) and there have been some moves (in South Africa at least) to construct family housing to try to change the culture around mining camps. This isn't the whole reason of course, but it's certainly a factor in why Southern Africa was so badly hit by the AIDS epidemic.

Some of you might be aware that after years of back and forth the Ugandan parliament finally passed it's internationally condemned homophobic Anti-Homosexuality Bill. It seems that it's passage was due to a complete comedy of errors, the government forgot it was being voted on:

The Observer posted:

Prime Minister Amama Mbabazi stormed the House moments before the bill was passed, protesting without much effect.

Mbabazi had walked out of the chambers earlier after Parliament had passed the Plants Varieties Protection Bill, apparently unaware the Anti-Homosexuality Bill was up next.

He soon rushed back to complain that the government was still consulting on some clauses, and that the House didn’t have the number of MPs required to pass the law.

“I was not aware that this bill was on the order paper; we have a few issues on which we are consulting… we would not want to have it pass without quorum,” Mbabazi said.

But he was booed by many, including ministers. Mbabazi seemed puzzled by the fact that even his own opposed him.

“We passed several bills yesterday [Thursday] with less numbers, why didn’t you stop us that there was no quorum?” Katerera MP Hatwib Katoto wondered.

When Mbabazi resumed his seat, he pulled out his copy of the Parliamentary Rules of Procedure and consulted cabinet colleagues, only to be shocked to see his fellow ministers cheering when Kadaga ruled against his wish.

“I think there was an opportunity to consult on this bill for so many years. The next chance will come at the time of (Presidential) assent; for us let us do our work,” Kadaga ruled.

Mbabazi stormed out and stood at the Central lobby, waiting to address journalists.

The EU and State Department have naturally both condemned the bill and are waiting on Museveni to sink it, which hopefully will happen soon enough.

flatbus
Sep 19, 2012

kustomkarkommando posted:

Botswana's reliance on mining as the main component of their economy definitely plays a role in the high HIV prevalence among the population (like in South Africa). Mining in Southern Africa relies on a highly mobile migrant workforce, men leave their families and travel to distant mining camps in the bush for month-long work shifts to financially provide for their families who remain at home. A shadow industry of prostitution developed around these isolated mining communities facilitating the spread of HIV, which would then be brought home when the miners returned to their families between shifts. Debswana and Anglo-American both instituted sweeping ARV programs when they realized the extent of HIV infection among their workforce (or when absenteeism began biting at their bottom line) and there have been some moves (in South Africa at least) to construct family housing to try to change the culture around mining camps. This isn't the whole reason of course, but it's certainly a factor in why Southern Africa was so badly hit by the AIDS epidemic.

The connection to mining is very enlightening. I did know about the 'highway of AIDS,' but thought that only applied to truckers and transportation workers. It hadn't occurred to me that migrant workers would be a part of it too.

Volkerball
Oct 15, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Huge protests in Niger today.

quote:

Tens of thousands of people have staged an anti-government rally in Niger's capital Niamey, protesting against corruption, media censorship and what they said was the failure of the country's president to improve living standards.

Demonstrators in one of the world's poorest countries chanted "Down with the regime!" and "No to dictatorship" on Saturday in the country's first major rally against President Mahamadou Issoufou's rule since his 2011 election win.

"Mahamadou Issoufou promised an end to food insecurity but the population continues to be decimated by hunger and thirst," said Amadou Hama, president of the National Assembly whose Nigerien Democratic Movement (MODEN) broke away from the ruling coalition this year and joined the opposition coalition.

Police said about 20,000 people took part in Saturday's rally, while organisers put the figure at 30,000.

The protest, organised by a coalition of 15 opposition parties called the Alliance for the Republic, Democracy and Reconciliation in Niger (ARDR), was the first public show of strength after a court lifted a government ban on opposition marches last month.

'Bad governance and corruption'

Seini Oumarou, opposition leader and former prime minister, condemned "the bad governance and corruption" in a country with worsening food security, education and health systems.

Oumarou also criticised the government's oil deals with foreign firms and the ruling Nigerien Party for Democracy and Socialism's control of the media.

"We are witnessing the organised looting of our national resources," he said at an opposition meeting after the rally.

Niger, with a fast-growing population of 17 million people, has some of the lowest government revenues per capita in Africa despite the start of oil production in 2011. Output is running at around 16,500 barrels a day, the IMF said in September.

Niger, the world's fourth largest uranium producer, is also seeking to renegotiate long-term mining contracts with French nuclear power firm Areva to increase tax revenues.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2013/12/niger-protest-2013122818045873463.html

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

The X-man cometh posted:

One huge problem is that many Chinese treat African projects as a Chinese jobs program and import all the labor, instead of hiring Africans. So licks have no connection to the huge project in their neighborhood, other than the fact that government officials get rich.

Isn't there a similar issue in Indonesia?

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R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Orange Devil posted:

Isn't there a similar issue in Indonesia?
There's a similar issue everywhere China has projects like that. Another example is Mongolia, where the Mongol government leases/sells mining operations to Chinese companies who then solely use cheap Chinese labour. It's not making a lot of people happy in Mongolia.

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