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A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

sublyme posted:

Watched it tonight and while I'm not sure what the best film of 2013 was, this wasn't it. Could have used a lot more editing for clarity, storytelling and runtime. Didn't really get why we had Bale narrating 99% of the film but decided to let Adams narrate for a small chunk. Heart pills came out of nowhere but ultimately were pointless; it just felt a bit like trying to stuff too much in. Also, I loved O. Russel's films of the previous couple years, so, yeah, this is an honest critique.
The heart pills were misdirection. The first time he used them you couldn't tell what was going on and were meant to assume that this sleazy looking guy in the 70's was using some other kind of drug, the reveal that it's actually legit medicine for a sick dude subverts your expectation of him.

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A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

I don't think a character with an entirely constructed personality that she's barely able to keep intact wearing gaudy clothes that normal people wouldn't wear is a flaw in the film.

A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

It's a pretty safe bet that the creepy, uncomfortable scene that creeped you out was intended to. It's a pathetic guy hitting rock bottom and losing control in a really gross way. Which part of it made you think you should have been laughing?

A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

Yeah I think your audience was crazy. It's fine to think the scene failed to be effective, but it's definitely meant to be creepy. I can understand laughter via discomfort or uncomfortably laughing at how pathetic the character had become (or because someone thought Cooper was laughably bad) but it's not meant to be a hysterical scene.

A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

It doesn't neatly fit into a comedy/drama dichotomy and that's part of why it works so well.

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A True Jar Jar Fan
Nov 3, 2003

Primadonna

Renner definitely deserves it over Cooper.

echoplex posted:

Exactly how I felt. Carmine's ending was at odds with the rest of the tone of the film, which I found a bit troubling.
How would you describe the rest of the tone of the film? It was sad that the most well intentioned person in the film is the one who gets the worst end, but that felt totally appropriate to me in a film centered around a group of people joyfully ruining lives.

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